Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection from Shout! Factory
07-27-13, 08:09 PM
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For those who maybe haven't been following this on Blu-ray.com, it appears we've got another compromised release. Shout Factory apparently did everything right except make sure that Fortune Star sent them the real HD transfers and not upscales. Everywhere else in the world the Bruce Lee films have had genuine HD transfers (At least the first 3. GOD has always been an upscale.), thus making them the exception to Fortune Star's rule, but in this instance someone dropped the ball. Of course Shout Factory's only response is to shrug their shoulders and claim that they just used whatever Fortune Star gave them. The sad thing is, if this had been a dvd release, it would have been close to, if not perfect. Shout color corrected the transfers, tracked down all of the appropriate soundtracks, and re-did the subtitles. I'm sure they put a lot of hard work into this release, but it's always something with these movies. It's maddening being a HK movie fan. We're what, 7 years into the life of Blu-Ray, and I can count the number of classic HK martial arts movies released properly on one hand.
....and that's about it. Everything else is compromised in some way or another whether it be bad pal conversion, upscales, no original language tracks, crappy remixed soundtracks, cut versions, etc. Some people think the Dragon Dynasty releases of Fist of Legend and Hard Boiled are ok, but both feature "dub-titles" and sub-par transfers. I've heard that the UK Fist of Legend is preferable to the US one at least with regards to the subs. Enter the Dragon also has it's two WB releases, each with their own issues, but I consider that more of an American film anyway.
As far as non-US releases go, there's a French release of 36th Chamber of Shaolin that's supposed to be good (but no English subs), and I think there's a couple of Japanese Jackie Chan releases that might be ok (but crazy expensive and probably not English friendly.
Finally, the HK Bruce Lee releases (BB, FoF, WotD) are at least true HD, but only contain the horrible 5.1 remixed soundtracks.
Is he Jerry's brother of Ocean's Eleven fame? Like I said, it's my understanding that rumors about that legendary scene have circulated for years.
07-27-13, 08:15 PM
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It's unfortunate that they're one of the only companies still around putting out Special Editions. Or, if you need me to dumb it down for you, it sucks other companies don't put the effort in to releases that they do.
Get your panties out of the bunch they're wrapped up in.
07-27-13, 08:30 PM
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How about reading what I wrote before you try an attempt to correct it?
It's unfortunate that they're one of the only companies still around putting out Special Editions. Or, if you need me to dumb it down for you, it sucks other companies don't put the effort in to releases that they do.
Get your panties out of the bunch they're wrapped up in.
It's unfortunate that they're one of the only companies still around putting out Special Editions. Or, if you need me to dumb it down for you, it sucks other companies don't put the effort in to releases that they do.
Get your panties out of the bunch they're wrapped up in.
, no disrespect meant.
07-27-13, 08:32 PM
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07-27-13, 09:12 PM
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Which films have good blu-ray releases? As far as "classic HK" (I'd define that as 70's through mid 90's) releases in the US go, I'd say the good releases are limited to the following:
Media Blasters/Tokyo Shock
Deadly Duo
Heroes Two
Five Element Ninjas (There's an argument amongst some fans that this one should have the Cantonese track instead of Mandarin, but I'm no expert.)
Dragon Dynasty
Five Deadly Venoms (Some people complain about the subtitle translation, but other than the bizarre reference to the "Snake Spirit dude," I don't think they're horrible.)
...and that's about it.
Media Blasters/Tokyo Shock
Deadly Duo
Heroes Two
Five Element Ninjas (There's an argument amongst some fans that this one should have the Cantonese track instead of Mandarin, but I'm no expert.)
Dragon Dynasty
Five Deadly Venoms (Some people complain about the subtitle translation, but other than the bizarre reference to the "Snake Spirit dude," I don't think they're horrible.)
...and that's about it.
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07-31-13, 01:09 PM
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Re: Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection from Shout! Factory
Shame we're not getting the real HD versions. At least the special features look somewhat decent. I have these films on DVD that were remastered (way better than the fox versions), I wonder how the quality of this new release will stand up to the DVDs.
08-01-13, 07:24 AM
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After reading the reviews, I cancelled my pre-order. I'm going to order the HK release even with the remix audio since at least they have it in proper HD versions.
08-01-13, 09:41 AM
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Which DVD versions were better than the Fox ones? I thought that they were the only releases with the original mono tracks?
08-01-13, 01:03 PM
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I'm bummed to hear that these Blu-Rays didn't turn out 100% like we all were hoping
I'll hold onto my DVD set that Fox put out in 2005 until proper Blu-Rays come out.
I'll hold onto my DVD set that Fox put out in 2005 until proper Blu-Rays come out.
08-01-13, 05:51 PM
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08-02-13, 02:20 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/Bruce-Ultimate-Collection-Dragon-Death/dp/B000A9QK9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375471197&sr=8-2&keywords=bruce+lee+dvd
08-02-13, 03:08 PM
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Re: Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection from Shout! Factory
This is now on Shout's Website...
PLEASE NOTE: The release date on this set has been moved to 9/17/13 due to a production delay.
PLEASE NOTE: The release date on this set has been moved to 9/17/13 due to a production delay.
08-02-13, 06:55 PM
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There was another set release a few years later with improved picture and 5.1 tracks.
http://www.amazon.com/Bruce-Ultimate-Collection-Dragon-Death/dp/B000A9QK9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375471197&sr=8-2&keywords=bruce+lee+dvd
http://www.amazon.com/Bruce-Ultimate-Collection-Dragon-Death/dp/B000A9QK9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375471197&sr=8-2&keywords=bruce+lee+dvd
08-06-13, 12:12 AM
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Re: Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection from Shout! Factory
That set went as low as $10 @ walmart and it was in one of those really thin boxsets. I can't believe the price went up since going OOP. I first bought that set in 2005. The original boxset looked the best, though. It had this really cool black fold out but the discs themselves were horrible. They were ported over from the LDs released in the early 90's.
08-06-13, 02:01 AM
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I've seen the regular box set with thin cases of the Bruce Lee: Ultimate Collection in used condition at numerous used book/media shops or thrift stores for $19 or less. In fact, I almost bought it yesterday for $5.99, but The Big Boss dvd was scratched to hell and covered in finger prints, while the other discs were mint. So I decided to hold off and see what happens with the Shout release, since it's being delayed for release. So hopefully they'll get true HD transfers, but that's just a guess so far.
So don't trust Ebay or Amazon prices greedy sellers are asking for. It doesn't mean they've actually sold for that amount or are worth those amounts. You can always find better more reasonable deals if you're patient and keep looking.
08-06-13, 06:54 AM
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Word on the street is that Shout is only delaying the release so that they can fix the mislabled extras discs. They're continuing to insist that Fortune Star gave them the proper transfers. Sigh.
08-06-13, 12:12 PM
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That's a shame, since I was really looking forward to this set, and mislabeled discs are no big deal in my opinion. I mean even The Godfather trilogy restored released had mislabeled bonus features discs and I'm not sure if those were ever corrected.
08-06-13, 12:54 PM
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Re: Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection from Shout! Factory
Can anyone help and tell me if this is the HK version with the proper HD transfers? And will it work in North America?
http://www.amazon.com/Bruce-Legendary-Collection-Blu-ray-Region/dp/B0049SB3ZU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=JVHE6Z20J2GH&coliid=I2OGJFBLUIM96I
http://www.amazon.com/Bruce-Legendary-Collection-Blu-ray-Region/dp/B0049SB3ZU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=JVHE6Z20J2GH&coliid=I2OGJFBLUIM96I
08-06-13, 01:59 PM
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That set is Region A, so it will work on North American blu ray players. However I'm not sure about the HD transfers on this set.
08-06-13, 03:21 PM
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I have that set and the transfers, except for GoD, are all HD. It is a very nice set. It doesn't have the special features that Shout! has, although there are some, but it has the movies in HD and they look good.
08-06-13, 03:51 PM
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So maybe I'll have to buy both, this one and the Shout ones just to get everything.....fuck!
08-06-13, 04:17 PM
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The HK versions also only contain the craptacular re-mixed soundtracks. Some people aren't bothered by that sort of thing, but I can't stand them. One of the biggest selling points with this Shout box was that they took the time to track down all of the original mono soundtracks. They also color corrected the transfers which are overly pink on the HK set. Shout was *this* close to getting this thing perfect...
08-06-13, 05:33 PM
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Enterprising pirates will likely take the mono soundtracks from the Shout Box and combine them with the superior transfers from Hong Kong. Check your favorite bittorrent sites in the coming weeks.
08-06-13, 05:34 PM
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I have that set also that Fok mentioned. It's a really nice set. Bought for around $85 back in February on a trip to Hong Kong
Also, there is no English audio on Enter the Dragon, it's only Cantonese and Mandarin dubs.
There are 2 bonus documentaries included, but both are on Region 3 DVD.
Also, there is no English audio on Enter the Dragon, it's only Cantonese and Mandarin dubs.
There are 2 bonus documentaries included, but both are on Region 3 DVD.