First 4K home video format (Sony FMP-X1 4K Media Player, $699)
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First 4K home video format (Sony FMP-X1 4K Media Player, $699)
This was first shown and discussed at CES, but now it has a name and release window. The Sony FMP-X1 will sell for $699 this summer, and come bundled with 10 movies in 4K. The download service to purchase additional 4K films will launch this fall.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/07/s...ution-service/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/7/419...k-media-player
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/07/s...ution-service/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/7/419...k-media-player
This summer, consumers of Sony's 4K UHD TVs can purchase the FMP-X1 4K Media Player bundled with 10 feature films and video shorts in true 4K resolution for $699. In the fall of 2013, users of the same 4K Media Player will be given access to a fee-based video distribution service offering a library of 4K titles from Sony Pictures Entertainment and other notable production houses. The feature films included with purchase of the 4K Media Player are:
Bad Teacher
Battle: Los Angeles
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Karate Kid (2010)
Salt
Taxi Driver
That's My Boy
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Other Guys
Total Recall (2012)
Bad Teacher
Battle: Los Angeles
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Karate Kid (2010)
Salt
Taxi Driver
That's My Boy
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Other Guys
Total Recall (2012)
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Maybe I missed something, but are the movies in an optical disc format?
If so they must be getting quite fragile and sensitive with even more content contained on them.
"That's My Boy" in 4K! I'M SOLD!!!!!
If so they must be getting quite fragile and sensitive with even more content contained on them.
"That's My Boy" in 4K! I'M SOLD!!!!!
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Re: First 4K home video format (Sony FMP-X1 4K Media Player, $699)
This doesn't tell me enough about how it works. I'm assuming all movies are stored online? If so, I refuse to support it. I'd rather buy VHS than online movies- at least I know that nobody can take my VHS tapes offline if there's any legal trouble with them!
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If they're stored online then every time someone wants to change a film (ala George Lucas) you'll suddenly have a different movie the next time you go to watch it...
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We can assume the article fails to mention an optical disc format for a reason. The movies will likely be highly DRM'd, low bitrate online and / or streamed sourced. No thanks!! Terrible precident...
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Re: First 4K home video format (Sony FMP-X1 4K Media Player, $699)
I really don't see the point of 4K if it's stored online. It's likely to just be material sourced at 4K but with an even lower bitrate than my current blus.
I don't know what the situation may be elsewhere, but unlimited internet access isn't that common around these parts, so I couldn't even justify it on that front.
I don't know what the situation may be elsewhere, but unlimited internet access isn't that common around these parts, so I couldn't even justify it on that front.
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Neat looking box, but no interest in the format.
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Whatever happened to those multi-layer BD's that were being developed? I'd rather deal with that than online media distribution. Hell, I'd rather have movies on individual HDD's than deal with crappy online streaming.
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At this point, you can buy a 1TB drive for $60-$80.
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Being that I am a computer tech, I do not want to have my movies on one HD.
HDs fail all the time, then you have nothing. I would need to have some kind of backup system that is easy and automatic.
HDs fail all the time, then you have nothing. I would need to have some kind of backup system that is easy and automatic.
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Now maybe drive failure will be less of an issue as solid state becomes more common. But the prices for solid state are still prohibitive for people who want to store TB's of content.
This is why, as antiquated as it might seem, I will stick with optical media as long as it is viable. The discs are right there on my shelf, don't need backup, and can't be taken away from me because of intellectual property issues.
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I thought I had read at one point those multi player 100GB discs were supposed to become more mainstream. Either way, I could care less now. So all this device is, is basically a streamer to Sony's database to stream their 4K movies. You pay a fee, and they download to this thing? I don't see any future in this, even with other studios participating. And it's definitely not worth the price. I'll stick to my physical media.
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I wonder if Sony cared enough to fix the messed up soundtrack on Total Recall 2012 that they've ignored on Blu-ray?
This format is really an intermediary product in home video, much like D-VHS was in its day before Blu-ray. Anyone buying into it knows it will likely have a limited shelf life and is not the intended successor to Blu-ray. I have little interest in it but I imagine Sony will find a few thousand wealthy people to support it in their private mega-home theaters.
This format is really an intermediary product in home video, much like D-VHS was in its day before Blu-ray. Anyone buying into it knows it will likely have a limited shelf life and is not the intended successor to Blu-ray. I have little interest in it but I imagine Sony will find a few thousand wealthy people to support it in their private mega-home theaters.
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It wasn't a soundtrack issue, it was a compatibility issue with some BD players. Considering this is an entirely different encode and format, I'm guessing it won't be an issue.
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Yeah, based on what I understand, this is downloading digital files, not streaming. So you'll have a local copy of the file on this media player. The USB port visible on the front can probably be used for extending the disk space with external storage.
If I had to speculate, I would guess that the service will be like iCloud, where it will have a history of all your purchases, so if your device or hard drive fails, you can simply authorize a new device and redownload your past purchases.
If I had to speculate, I would guess that the service will be like iCloud, where it will have a history of all your purchases, so if your device or hard drive fails, you can simply authorize a new device and redownload your past purchases.
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Thanks. I didn't know about that. But then I have my PS3 output PCM to my receiver so that's probably why I never ran into that problem.
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Re: First 4K home video format (Sony FMP-X1 4K Media Player, $699)
Yeah, based on what I understand, this is downloading digital files, not streaming. So you'll have a local copy of the file on this media player. The USB port visible on the front can probably be used for extending the disk space with external storage.
If I had to speculate, I would guess that the service will be like iCloud, where it will have a history of all your purchases, so if your device or hard drive fails, you can simply authorize a new device and redownload your past purchases.
If I had to speculate, I would guess that the service will be like iCloud, where it will have a history of all your purchases, so if your device or hard drive fails, you can simply authorize a new device and redownload your past purchases.