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Dealbreaking Points
Do you ever go to buy a movie or tv show but end up not getting it for some reason ? Like it's a newer edition but it doesn't have the massive features that the set you already own has ?
Not having the features is a big breaking point for me. For instance, the recent Star Trek movie blu-ray set. Yes, it has all the movies. But it doesn't have the director's cuts of the movie nor the great features that the complete dvd set from a few years ago has. Another dealbreaker for me is the original audio. If a movie doesn't come with the original theatrical audio, I have to think really hard about picking it up. That's why I refuse to get the first Terminator on blu-ray. I listen, whenever possible, movies with their original audio. I love the Disney movies for this. |
Re: Dealbreaking Points
For me it's ANY alteration to the theatrical version, whether it be an updated sound mix (or in the case of some budget discs, a movie that was released with a 5.1 track but ISN'T included on the disc!), aspect ratio change (EVEN if it's been requested by the director) or any scenes cut OR added (many will disagree with me on that, although I like having an unrated cut included along WITH the theatrical version). I won't knowingly buy a movie if the opening studio logo has been updated either, especially if I already have it on another format.
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Re: Dealbreaking Points
nope. i'm a whore!
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Re: Dealbreaking Points
Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
(Post 11630115)
For me it's ANY alteration to the theatrical version, whether it be an updated sound mix (or in the case of some budget discs, a movie that was released with a 5.1 track but ISN'T included on the disc!), aspect ratio change (EVEN if it's been requested by the director) or any scenes cut OR added (many will disagree with me on that, although I like having an unrated cut included along WITH the theatrical version). I won't knowingly buy a movie if the opening studio logo has been updated either, especially if I already have it on another format.
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Re: Dealbreaking Points
Back in the dvd days, I would often hold out waiting for a special edition with more extras because there was "always" a better edition coming. With Blu-ray, I'm not so hung up on extras. Partly because most likey there will not be a new edition coming, but I also just don't get as excited by them anymore. The only ones that I consistently take time to watch/re-watch are commentaries (I mostly prefer the academic/historical type on Criterions/older films rather than cast/crew love-ins recorded before the movies are even released) . I enjoy quality documentaries (none of that EPK crap) as well, but often those go unwatched or they're only watched once.
To me the big thing is quality a/v that is true to the source material. Depending on the title, I don't necessarily need the original theatrical version (Zodiac for instance), but like the OP I can't bring myself to buy the new Terminator disc because of the lack of original sound and the altered color timing. Others include T2 (over dnr'd transfer), Predator (ditto x100), The French Connection (before the re-release). I also can't bring myself to buy the Studio Canal The Third Man even though it's an ok release (mild DNR) because I know the superior Criterion is out there, even if it costs ~$150 and I'll likely never buy it. |
Re: Dealbreaking Points
Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
(Post 11630115)
For me it's ANY alteration to the theatrical version, whether it be an updated sound mix (or in the case of some budget discs, a movie that was released with a 5.1 track but ISN'T included on the disc!), aspect ratio change (EVEN if it's been requested by the director) or any scenes cut OR added (many will disagree with me on that, although I like having an unrated cut included along WITH the theatrical version).
This is the reason why I (originally) ordered the UK BDs of Pan's Labyrinth & Let The Right One In. The first film didn't have DNR applied to it (like the U.S. release) and the second film had it's original Theatrical Subtitles. |
Re: Dealbreaking Points
Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
(Post 11630108)
Not having the features is a big breaking point for me. For instance, the recent Star Trek movie blu-ray set. Yes, it has all the movies. But it doesn't have the director's cuts of the movie nor the great features that the complete dvd set from a few years ago has.
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Re: Dealbreaking Points
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
(Post 11630990)
I thought the Trek films did retain most of the original DVD bonus materials (in addition to some new HD bonuses)?
TMP is missing an audio commentary by Robert Wise and some members of the crew that was recorded for the Director's Cut (and won't sync to the theatrical cut), and a couple of featurettes. All of the movies are missing the text trivia tracks from the DVDs, but most of the trivia information was incorporated into the "Library Computer" interface instead. |
Re: Dealbreaking Points
TMP long cut is not on the bluray, right?
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Re: Dealbreaking Points
Originally Posted by whotony
(Post 11634097)
TMP long cut is not on the bluray, right?
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