TheBang

And you can buy a 4K camcorder and create your own 4K content. JVC has a 4K camcorder for $5000, and Sony is supposed to be releasing a consumer 4K camcorder later this year too.

zyzzle

No doubt you can buy a 4k camera, but it probably will record at a super-low bitrate, thereby robbing you of much of 4k's appeal. What media will such a camera use to keep up with 150 - 200 Mbps bitrate needed for 4k content? Would have to be SSD hard drives, or a very fast 10k rpm conventional hard drive.

Matthew Chmiel

There's no consumer available PC out right now that would be able to maintain a decent performance of a game playing at 4096×2304 resolution.

The 15" MacBook Pro with Retina Display, which is the only consumer available machine out there with a high resolution (2880x1800) display, has trouble playing any sort of video content over 30fps. That's with the minimum quad-core i7 processor, 8GB of RAM, flash storage, and a dedicated 1GB GDDR5 video card inside the machine.

Jay G.

Here's a setup running six 2560x1600 screens, for 7680x3200 total, and it's from 2010:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/s...lays-for-wide/

The Macbook Pro is a bad example because for all its specs, it's still a laptop, putting size and weight over performance.

BSTNFAN

Full 1080P passive 3D...Wait for the PS4 announcement coming soon. Lots of rumors floating about.

TheBang

The way the JVC works is it actually records four separate, simultaneous 1080p streams, in four quadrants, which, when put together, create a 4K image. So there's no compromise on the bitrate. Take a look at some of the 4K footage on YouTube shot with the JVC camera. They look pretty nice, and that's even with the über-compression that YouTube applies. That reminds me. YouTube is another potential 4K viewing application for these TV's.

As for the media speed, you're conflating Megabits with MegaBytes. A 200 Megabit per second bitrate is only 25 MegaBytes per second. Easily obtainable, even by late model PATA drives. Standard 7200 rpm SATA drives routinely perform above 100 MegaBytes per second. UHS-I SDXC flash cards can transfer up to 104 MegaBytes per second, and will probably be the recording medium of choice for 4K consumer camcorders that will come out in the future (the JVC uses quad flash cards, non-UHS-I).

A game, yeah, probably not, because of the amount of computational power required to render at that resolution.

But video decompression and display? Easily doable with today's hardware. Drexl was talking about the 4K movies that they announced would ship with the TV, not games (and I'm not talking about the fake 4K Blu-ray discs either).

mattysemo247

Ghostbusters review:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Ghostb.../69723/#Review

RocShemp

The screenshots look good. I think it's stupid that they don't pair these with a second disc full of special features but whatever.

Doctorossi

Just checking in to note that I don't appreciate the thread name-change.

PhantomStranger

Another review of the 4K-mastered Ghostbusters Blu-ray, with full 1080P screenshots:

http://www.doblu.com/2013/05/14/ghos...bluray-review/

The older Blu-ray now is only worth keeping for the special features. This new edition is a definite improvement in the video department. I hope they get to Bram Stoker's Dracula under this program.

bunkaroo

I decided to pickup Ghostbusters and Spider-Man 2002 at Fry's. Will check them out this weekend.

EddieMoney

Anyone pick up Taxi Driver? Wondering if it's worth the upgrade. The current disc is pretty great.

bunkaroo

I was tempted but left it there. I figured Ghostbusters and Spider-Man needed more improvement that Tax Driver.

b2net

Now I wish I would have kept the DVD for the special features.. and then skipped the first Blu... ugh...

manicsounds

These discs might be an improvement in picture quality, but Sony is doing NOTHING for the audio. Spiderman and Ghostbusters are still the old 'measly' 48khz 16 bit audio tracks taking up very little space on disc. If they really wanted people to go for these discs, why not boost up the audio to 96khz or even Akira-style 192khz at 24 bit at least?

Then again, since even Sony's own "Lawrence Of Arabia" was a 4K mastered version, and it came with very good picture quality and audio quality plus bonus features as well. These "SuperBit BD" titles are a scam...

RocShemp

I ordered Ghostbusters from Amazon because it was just 14 bucks and change. I held out on the previous release so this'll be the first time I own this movie on BD. Come to think of it, I've never owned it on any video format, despite watching it numerous times on TV and the ocassional VHS rental.

Mr. Cinema

From what I've read, Ghostbusters, Glory, and Spider-man are all new transfers sourced from 4K masters. The previous releases were not.

RocShemp

I'm actually fine with how my BD of Glory looks. So I'll need to see screenshots and the price will need to be cheap enough before I double dip.

I haven't seen Spider-Man on BD. Is the current transfer of Spider-Man awful enough to warrant a remaster?

bunkaroo

The AVS thread had a mouse over link for Spider-Man and it appears to have significant improvements.

Giles

if you don't want all the extras, the new disc is the same exact 4K-2K transfer done for the prior release.

Giles

I agree, over in Hong Kong there is a slew of bluray releases in uprezzed 96kHz audio - why Sony can't upgrade audio is befuddling.

LPMA

I think I need a crash course in audio quality. Picture quality, I understand, but between one audio stream and another I never see any difference.

zyzzle

The audio is just fine... uncompressed 16-bit 48 khz. Increasing the audio to 96 khz / 24 bit or 192 khz would severely compromise the Video Bitrate. So much space would be devoted to audio that the picture quality would suffer, since the .m2ts container format has an absolute limit on maximum total bitrate, which includes the multiplexed Audio + Video combined... Now, I honestly have a hard time distinguishing between uncompressed 48 / 16 bit and 96 / 24 bit really, but can easilly distinguish between, say, 20 mbps and 30 mbps video bitrate.

The whole point of these "fake 4k discs" should be to get the absolute video bitrate as close to, and beyond 40 mbps as the container allows... all while eliminating DNR, EE, and other artificial, digital "video-enhancements."

Josh Z

While I don't disagree with you that upping the specs on the current 5.1 remix to 96/24 would offer much benefit, the 5.1 mix itself is not "fine." At least, not based on the older Blu-ray. The high end was almost completely rolled off, leaving very muddy and boomy audio.

zyzzle

Which older blu has rolled-off high ends? GHOSTBUSTERS?

I was talking more in general terms about audio, assuming an already stellar 5.1 mix at 48 khz / 16. Upgrading to 96 / 24 or 192 / 24 offers very diminishing returns vs compromise to video bitrate necessitated.