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schmedy 12-08-12 05:20 PM

Hddvd
 
I was just wondering if there is market for HDDVD's and players? I have approx 50 HDDVD, many unopened including the Harry Potter Box set, as for players I have a Toshiba HD-A20. I just moved and I am trying to downsize some of my stuff. I have seen a few people selling stuff on AVSForums but the prices looked high. Thanks.

BuckNaked2k 12-08-12 06:20 PM

Re: Hddvd
 
There's still a limited market for them. The titles which have not yet been released on Blu-ray will command a premium, while others may net you a buck or two. Your best bet is to check out the listings on Amazon.com third-party sellers and half.com to see what the going rates are for the titles you have.

As for the players, you won't get rich, but you can probably still recover some of your investment on eBay.

Gizmo 12-08-12 07:06 PM

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You're looking at about $75 for everything. Movies are about a dollar or so.

g 12-08-12 07:29 PM

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There are some movies that are rare on amazon marketplace. I just sold excalibur HDDVD sealed for 16.00 dollars a few weeks ago. A year or so ago, I got 25 dollars for Adventures of robin hood, sealed.

orangerunner 12-08-12 08:05 PM

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There is very little value to them now as a seller. Some of the titles that aren't on Blu-ray & imports might fetch $6-$10 if you find the right buyer. Other titles you're looking at a buck or two on craigslist.

On the plus side, your A20 player is 1080p which is kind of rare since the more common players such as the A2, D3 and A3 models were only 720p.

dhmac 12-08-12 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by orangerunner (Post 11499231)
There is very little value to them now as a seller. Some of the titles that aren't on Blu-ray & imports might fetch $6-$10 if you find the right buyer. Other titles you're looking at a buck or two on craigslist.

On the plus side, your A20 player is 1080p which is kind of rare since the more common players such as the A2, D3 and A3 models were only 720p.

I know the A3 could output 1080i as well.

marginal 12-08-12 08:38 PM

Re: Hddvd
 
I'll have to see what I can get for my sealed copies of Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Arizona Dream.

Dan 12-09-12 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by orangerunner (Post 11499231)
On the plus side, your A20 player is 1080p which is kind of rare since the more common players such as the A2, D3 and A3 models were only 720p.

Half true. They could all output at 1080i, which was more useful than the 720p option.

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11499245)
I know the A3 could output 1080i as well.

Yup.
The important thing about all of this was that the HD DVD players took the original 1080p encode from the disc and converted it to 1080i before sending it to the TV/projector. If the display could de-interlace properly, it would display at 1080p without any artifacts. Some discs that were encoded at 1080i, though, wouldn't look 100% right when converted to 1080p.


Originally Posted by marginal (Post 11499248)
I'll have to see what I can get for my sealed copies of Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Arizona Dream.

I can't speak for Arizona Dream, but from what I recall, Elephant Man and Mulholland Drive had audio issues. Specifically, higher-pitched audio. Not everyone noticed it, but it was there. For that reason, those discs likely aren't too valuable since their Blu-ray counterparts do not have the same issues.

BuckNaked2k 12-09-12 01:24 PM

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I still have the Japan-only Band of Brothers set...I wonder if that has any value.

Gizmo 12-09-12 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 11499858)
I still have the Japan-only Band of Brothers set...I wonder if that has any value.

Yes. It certainly does. You can't sell it on eBay though as HBO has some weird obsession with getting al the auctions pulled. IIRC, it typically goes for $150-$200. I really don't know why.

slimdude 12-09-12 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by orangerunner (Post 11499231)

On the plus side, your A20 player is 1080p which is kind of rare since the more common players such as the A2, D3 and A3 models were only 720p.

I don't know about the A2, and the D3, but the A3 model was capable of 1080i resolution.

Gizmo 12-09-12 03:49 PM

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The single digit players did both.

schmedy 12-09-12 04:41 PM

Re: Hddvd
 
Thanks for all your help guys I will prob just give them all to a friend of mine who is local and has a HDDVD player too.

orangerunner 12-09-12 05:52 PM

Re: Hddvd
 

Originally Posted by slimdude (Post 11500054)
I don't know about the A2, and the D3, but the A3 model was capable of 1080i resolution.

I think the 720p/1080i resolution go hand-in-hand on most players. When I mentioned players being 720p I was comparing it to the A20, A30 & A35 which are 1080p.

Sorry if calling it 720p alone caused any confusion.

Josh Z 12-11-12 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SomethingMore (Post 11499461)
I can't speak for Arizona Dream, but from what I recall, Elephant Man and Mulholland Drive had audio issues. Specifically, higher-pitched audio. Not everyone noticed it, but it was there. For that reason, those discs likely aren't too valuable since their Blu-ray counterparts do not have the same issues.

I can confirm that Elephant Man and Mulholland Drive both have the pitch increase issue, which was corrected on the Blu-ray editions of both titles. However, the HD DVDs are region-free while the Blu-rays are both locked to Region B.

Why So Blu? 12-11-12 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11499245)
I know the A3 could output 1080i as well.


Yes, the A-3 is at 1080i.

bunkaroo 12-11-12 11:51 AM

Re: Hddvd
 
I can't recall the details but I thought there was something wonky about how the A20 did 1080p. I know I upgraded to a XA2 for a reason.

EDIT: Here's a good post from back then:

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/hd-d...tml#post141806


Did some more research. I have the same problem on the menu like you. The A20 is not a true 1080p, it is a 1080i and it converts it to 1080P, unlike the higher end model which is true 1080p without any internal processing

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hd-...vd-player.html

Review:

"The HD-A20 didn't fare much better on the two high-def test discs that I spun: Silicon Optix HD HQV and the new Digital Video Essentials HD DVD. In both cases, test patterns indicated that less-than-perfect 1080i-to-1080p deinterlacing was going on inside the A20. Deinterlacing? Hmm ... I thought that movies were encoded on HD DVD in 1080p format! As it turns out, HD DVD player manufacturers get the option to pull video from the disc in 1080i (interlaced) format and let the player then perform deinterlacing to get back to 1080p. As the tests indicate, Toshiba opted to employ this roundabout technique in the HD-A20."

You can set it to 1080i and let your TV do the work or let the A20 an see which one is better. I am kinda bummed about it saying 1080P, when its not 100% true 1080P. thanks Toshiba. However, I had it for my than 30 days so I can't exchange it for the more expensive one. But it is still a great player. I sold my XBOX HD drive with some movies and got it, so it was no lost to me. I just wished Tosh was honest about it. Also a couple of other magazines says the same thing about the Internal 1080i to 1080P.
Needless to say I was not happy when I found this out after I was out of a return window.

Josh Z 12-11-12 04:10 PM

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IIRC, only the HD-A35 and HD-XA2 have true native 1080p24 output. The other models that claim 1080p decode the signal as 1080i and deinterlace it downstream.

BuckNaked2k 12-12-12 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 11502216)
....I know I upgraded to a XA2 for a reason.


Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11502606)
IIRC, only the HD-A35 and HD-XA2 have true native 1080p24 output.

The XA2: Still a fine piece of A/V hardware. :thumbsup:


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