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Mike86 10-27-12 07:18 PM

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I can't really see this taking off anytime soon. Blu-ray is already a pretty niche market for the most part so introducing a new HD format just doesn't seem logical at this point. If I had to guess studios are probably not going to get too excited about creating a new physical format anytime soon.

orangerunner 10-28-12 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11444410)
I can't really see this taking off anytime soon. Blu-ray is already a pretty niche market for the most part so introducing a new HD format just doesn't seem logical at this point. If I had to guess studios are probably not going to get too excited about creating a new physical format anytime soon.

This is my feeling as well. Blu-ray hasn't really met sales expectations compared to DVD.

The convenience, ease-of-use and lower prices of downloading/streaming has been the chosen trade-off for the better HD picture and sound that Blu-ray provides.

The quality of 4K will be incredible on 120" screen, but in the future how many young people are going to have room in their micro-loft apartments for a 120" screen?

Do the studios really want to endorse a format that is even closer in quality to the theatrical experience than we already have?

CapRockBrewingCo. 10-28-12 05:31 PM

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When Ultra HD prices come down and there is an established content delivery system, I'm sure I'll take part. But I don't see myself paying more than 3K for a TV so it's going to be awhile.

PopcornTreeCt 10-28-12 05:53 PM

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I really hope there's a single content delivery system. I don't want to see some movies coming faster on Redbox or Netflix or whatever. They need to get their shit together and all agree on a single system.

PhantomStranger 10-29-12 12:38 AM

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I doubt a physical format for 4K ever becomes a reality. The economics of the home media market have drastically changed and the days of studios introducing new formats whenever they feel like it, are over.

This content will premiere on some sort of digital delivery system. The customers it targets will be wealthy to begin with, so there will be no need to worry about the bandwidth and infrastructure to them. I think the studios would call it a wild success if the 4K home market ever becomes as big as laserdisc.

orangerunner 10-30-12 04:01 PM

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I know the electronics industry, like every other industry, feels they have to keep re-inventing the wheel and pushing technology further and further but eventually it has to plateau.

It reaches a point where people no longer find the advancements necessary to meet their needs.

I could be wrong but as far as watching movies at home is concerned, I think we're just about there for the average person. I think the only improvements necessary at this point is just a matter of increasing bandwidth and easy access and availability of titles.

But hey, maybe down the road we'll have a 4K projector that is the size of a pen that can project a 140" 4K HD image for only $50. Who knows?

Dan 10-31-12 10:57 AM

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Ultra High Definition is a stupid name.
They should have just stuck with 4K. I'm actually impressed that Sony is trying to do that.

I'll buy in to a physical format, but not until it's mature. I spent way too much money in the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war. Still disappointed that Paramount never offered a trade-in program for suckers like me. :/

Josh Z 10-31-12 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SomethingMore (Post 11449268)
Ultra High Definition is a stupid name.

It is a stupid name. "Ultra Definition" would have been marginally less stupid.

Shannon Nutt 10-31-12 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11449506)
It is a stupid name. "Ultra Definition" would have been marginally less stupid.

I have a feeling we'll all just be calling it 4K.

GoldenJCJ 10-31-12 05:37 PM

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Finally! The look and sound of perfect.

TheBang 10-31-12 06:28 PM

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Ultra HD also encompasses 8K resolution. So, I imagine that much as we saw "Full HD 1080p" being used, some day when 8K becomes feasible, we'll be seeing "Full Ultra HD 8K!"

islandclaws 11-30-12 10:45 AM

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Well, looks like you'll get something extra for that $25K...


Originally Posted by blu-ray.com
Sony Electronics has revealed that it is planning to offer a 4K player with pre-loaded 4K films when its new 84-inch XBR-84X900 goes on sale. Sony will also include the Sony Xperia Tablet S, which is to be used as a remote control.

The new 84-inch XBR-84X900, Sony's first Ultra High-Definition TV set, which will be capable of upscaling 1080p content to 4K, is expected to street with a $25,000 price tag.

The ten pre-loaded 4K films will be The Amazing Spiderman, Total Recall (2012), The Karate Kid (2010), Salt, Battle: Los Angeles, The Other Guys, Bad Teacher, That's My Boy, Taxi Driver, and The Bridge on the River Kwai. Also included will be a couple of short videos, amongst them Red Bull Media House's The Athlete Machine: Red Bull Kluge.

Unfortunately, only 3 of those are worth watching.

Giles 11-30-12 10:47 AM

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Bad Teacher, That's My Boy in 4K - MY LIFE'S COMPLETE! (hah! :yack: ) they left the most obvious film: 'Lawrence of Arabia' - if you're going to showcase 4K, at least have one 70mm film.

RocShemp 11-30-12 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11489095)
they left the most obvious film: 'Lawrence of Arabia' - if you're going to showcase 4K, at least have one 70mm film.

Why give away the best one for free when you can simply demo clips of it and later sell it for a hefty sum?

E Unit 11-30-12 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11489087)
Well, looks like you'll get something extra for that $25K...



Unfortunately, only 3 of those are worth watching.

Preloaded 4k movies? Is this going to be something new with 4k sets? Hard drives or something like that?

Drexl 11-30-12 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 11489214)
Preloaded 4k movies? Is this going to be something new with 4k sets? Hard drives or something like that?

It will probably be just for this and other early models. When a TV costs $20,000 or more, a hard drive isn't going to drive up the price much. As they decline in price, they'll drop them, as by then there should be some other medium for UHD/4K. This is just the only reasonable way they can deliver UHD/4K material at this time.

I can see 4K sticking around as a term some people use. I still see "AC-3" long after Dolby changed the name.

Mabuse 11-30-12 04:31 PM

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84 inches! And this is not a projector right? Wow I bet that thing is heavy.

Larry C. 11-30-12 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 11434000)
And The Abyss is still not 16x9.

rotfl

bruceames 11-30-12 05:08 PM

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Ultra High Definition may sound stupid if you spell it out or pronounce it, but if/when it gets more known and accepted I'm sure it will just be called UHD, just like digital video disc is called DVD. So that will be the name, and people will get used to it, just like they did with the name DVD.

Chrisedge 11-30-12 06:27 PM

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The movies are on the new 4K player, not the TV.

BTW the new Go Pro Video Cam, can shoot in a 2K mode and a 4k mode. (2K = 30fps, 4k = 15fps)

Drexl 11-30-12 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisedge (Post 11489623)
BTW the new Go Pro Video Cam, can shoot in a 2K mode and a 4k mode. (2K = 30fps, 4k = 15fps)

Wow, that seems like a strange feature. 15fps is quite choppy, and I think I'd choose 2K/30fps every time.

Then again, maybe it would be good for stills? You'd shoot it as a video, then pull the images from that, as if the camera was taking 15 stills per second?

Pizza 11-30-12 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceames (Post 11489565)
Ultra High Definition may sound stupid if you spell it out or pronounce it, but if/when it gets more known and accepted I'm sure it will just be called UHD, just like digital video disc is called DVD. So that will be the name, and people will get used to it, just like they did with the name DVD.

Except DVD stands for Digital Versatile Disc.

Drexl 11-30-12 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pizza (Post 11489681)
Except DVD stands for Digital Versatile Disc.

It depends on who you ask. I don't think it officially stands for anything.

RocShemp 11-30-12 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 11489707)
It depends on who you ask. I don't think it officially stands for anything.

Designer Venerial Disease.

UAIOE 11-30-12 10:01 PM

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I'm just surprised someone took the time to convert "That's My Boy" and "Bad Teacher" to 4K.

If I'm gonna drop 25 grand on this, I'd like a movie that will wow every single person I show this TV/Player combo pack to.


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