Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
03-29-12 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
03-30-12 | 06:20 AM
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03-30-12 | 10:44 AM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
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I'm just going off of the press release sheet I got with this set and according to that, those features are not on the other release...
This is from the press release. I've bolded what's only in this "Limited Edition":
Blu-ray (Disc 1)
· Feature film in high definition
Blu-ray (Disc 2)
· Mission Accepted
o Suiting Up In Prague
o Heating Up In Dubai
o Vancouver Fisticuffs
· Impossible Missions
o The Russian Prison
o Shooting in IMAX®
o Art Department
o A Roll of Film
o Life Masks
o Stepping into the Storm
o The Sandstorm
o Dubai Car Crash
o Lens on the Burj
o Props
o Composer
· Deleted Scenes with optional commentary by director Brad Bird
o Including an Alternate Opening
· Trailers
DVD (Disc 3)
· Feature film in standard definition
So all told, an extra 10 featurettes...
Unless I read wrong, the extras you've bolded seems to be also included in the "non-exclusive" Blu-ray, as noted from High-Def Digest review: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/6566...ssible_gp.html
Blu-ray (Disc 1)
· Feature film in high definition
Blu-ray (Disc 2)
· Mission Accepted
o Suiting Up In Prague
o Heating Up In Dubai
o Vancouver Fisticuffs
· Impossible Missions
o The Russian Prison
o Shooting in IMAX®
o Art Department
o A Roll of Film
o Life Masks
o Stepping into the Storm
o The Sandstorm
o Dubai Car Crash
o Lens on the Burj
o Props
o Composer
· Deleted Scenes with optional commentary by director Brad Bird
o Including an Alternate Opening
· Trailers
DVD (Disc 3)
· Feature film in standard definition
So all told, an extra 10 featurettes...
Unless I read wrong, the extras you've bolded seems to be also included in the "non-exclusive" Blu-ray, as noted from High-Def Digest review: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/6566...ssible_gp.html
03-30-12 | 11:55 AM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
The reality of the situation is that there are very few theaters capable of projecting the full IMAX 1.44:1 aperature anymore. The number of genuine IMAX 15/70 theaters are dwindling as the company converts everything to digital. Digital IMAX screens have a ratio of 2:1. When I saw Ghost Protocol at a Digital IMAX, the "opening up" from 2.35:1 to 2:1 was so negligible that I doubt anyone in the audience noticed it unless they were specifically looking for it.
By necessity, the movie had to be primarily composed for the wider ratio. Brad Bird's recent tweets about the Blu-ray confirm that.
03-30-12 | 12:19 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
There are a few digital IMAX screens that exist that in the original 1.44:1 aspect ratio and there's been a few films to play in that OAR since IMAX has shifted gears to digital (such as Born to be Wild 3D). However, those screens are few and far between. The rest, like other digital projectors, has an OAR of 1.89:1.
I saw the same film in a ten-year-old IMAX theater that just did the change to digital and it was easy to tell the moments it changed from 2.35:1 to 1.89:1. If you saw the film in what was conceived from the start to be a digital IMAX theater, than yes, it's not going to be a worthwhile experience.
03-30-12 | 01:30 PM
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The IMAX theatrical projection aspect ratio is actually a range of ratios. Regardless, following the established tradition built upon the philosophy of the IMAX format, the footage, if opened up, would have been transferred at 1.78:1. The distinction between 2.39:1 and 1.78:1 is plenty evident.
03-30-12 | 01:40 PM
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03-30-12 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
The IMAX theatrical projection aspect ratio is actually a range of ratios. Regardless, following the established tradition built upon the philosophy of the IMAX format, the footage, if opened up, would have been transferred at 1.78:1. The distinction between 2.39:1 and 1.78:1 is plenty evident.
When Disney released Beauty and the Beast, Fantasia 2000, The Lion King, and Treasure Planet in the beginning of the millenium, they were newly created 70mm IMAX prints and did not have to go through the Digital Media Remastering process from IMAX.
Everything else since then has.
Apollo 13 was the first one up and not only had 25 minutes removed, but was cropped from 2.35:1 to 1.44:1 to take full advantage of the IMAX aspect ratio. When Attack of the Clones came out in IMAX a few months later, 22 minutes were removed, but it was the first DMR processed title to retain its 2.35:1 aspect ratio. [The Disney films all had aspect ratios of 1.66:1 or 1.85:1.]
Almost a year later, when platter sizes were increased, The Matrix sequels retained their running times and OAR of 2.35:1 and the last sequel was the first DMR title to have an IMAX release day-and-date with its theatrical release date and set the standard for IMAX DMR films to come.
Speed Racer was the first IMAX DMR release created digitally. However, I saw it both times in separate IMAX theaters in 70mm. The first time was in an auditorium specifically created for IMAX digital (it finally got the digital projector at the beginning of 2009). The second screening just became a digital IMAX venue since the release of Super 8.
Most IMAX DMR'd films are getting released digital only anyways. In 2011, 10 out of 25 DMR films were released in digital only.
In 2012? So far, 3 out of 7 were released digital only. Nobody knows if Titanic will be digital only in part due to the film's running time, but The Avengers, the next Resident Evil sequel, and Frankenweenie will be digital only.
Of course, for the time being, there are a handful (fifty locations are so) that can't go digital due to the size of the IMAX screen. Those locations will go digital when IMAX begins its rollout of their Kodak laser projectors which will replace ALL 70mm projectors AND ALL current digital setups.
03-30-12 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
Its going to be a sad day when all IMAX is digital... seeing as most of the theaters around here are already 4k.
03-30-12 | 02:58 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
There was a test of a laser projector in January and the specifications on it were:
• 600 optical watts of laser power (Total R+G+B)
• Laser light is coupled to the existing integration rod in a conventional DP 4K-32B optical core.
• 1.38-inch DLP 4K DMD with an illuminated area is 4096 X 2160 pixels was used.
• Contrast of 2,300:1
• The wide color gamut of the laser was mapped to a standard digital cinema P3 color gamut for the demo.
• Everything was self-contained in one projector cabinet 30" wide X 36" high X 60" long (76 x 91 x 152 cm). This includes the lasers and the laser drivers.
• Astandard projection lens was used, with no optical modifications done on the output side of the DLP optical core.
• The demo was shown on a 70 foot (21.3M) wide Harkness matte screen (1.0 gain) at a light level of 22fL. 22 fL on a gain 1.0 screen area of 2,560 sq. ft. (238M2), corresponds to 56,980 Lumens.
• Pictures were excellent, with especially good uniformity and resolution across the full screen.
• There was no observed chromatic aberration in the image.
• By all reports, speckle was not an issue. Even experienced observers could not see speckle in color bars showing the P3 color gamut. When color bars showing the full laser gamut were shown, the speckle in the green bar was visible although still not objectionable. Barco acknowledges speckle is objectionable on a silver screen for 3D, however.
• A retrofit program for existing digital cinema projectors is thought to be necessary by Barco, and product development is including that option.
• The demonstration was not a product yet.
• Laser light is coupled to the existing integration rod in a conventional DP 4K-32B optical core.
• 1.38-inch DLP 4K DMD with an illuminated area is 4096 X 2160 pixels was used.
• Contrast of 2,300:1
• The wide color gamut of the laser was mapped to a standard digital cinema P3 color gamut for the demo.
• Everything was self-contained in one projector cabinet 30" wide X 36" high X 60" long (76 x 91 x 152 cm). This includes the lasers and the laser drivers.
• Astandard projection lens was used, with no optical modifications done on the output side of the DLP optical core.
• The demo was shown on a 70 foot (21.3M) wide Harkness matte screen (1.0 gain) at a light level of 22fL. 22 fL on a gain 1.0 screen area of 2,560 sq. ft. (238M2), corresponds to 56,980 Lumens.
• Pictures were excellent, with especially good uniformity and resolution across the full screen.
• There was no observed chromatic aberration in the image.
• By all reports, speckle was not an issue. Even experienced observers could not see speckle in color bars showing the P3 color gamut. When color bars showing the full laser gamut were shown, the speckle in the green bar was visible although still not objectionable. Barco acknowledges speckle is objectionable on a silver screen for 3D, however.
• A retrofit program for existing digital cinema projectors is thought to be necessary by Barco, and product development is including that option.
• The demonstration was not a product yet.
03-30-12 | 03:14 PM
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The exposure/taking ratio is 1.44:1. Installed screens vary between roughly 1.44:1 and 2.0:1 to best take advantage of the theatres' differing architectures, vis-a-vis the philosophical objective which is to extend the field of view beyond the limits of the audience's peripheral vision and thus, in effect, present no aspect ratio at all.
03-30-12 | 05:32 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
The exposure/taking ratio is 1.44:1. Installed screens vary between roughly 1.44:1 and 2.0:1 to best take advantage of the theatres' differing architectures, vis-a-vis the philosophical objective which is to extend the field of view beyond the limits of the audience's peripheral vision and thus, in effect, present no aspect ratio at all.
When IMAX came out with the MPX projection system (specifically as IMAX was going to an all-digital system), it was the first IMAX projector specifically with a 1.89:1 aspect ratio. However, retrofitted auditoriums utilizing these projectors didn't pop up closer until a year-or-two before IMAX actually launched their digital projectors. A lot of AMC and Regal locations used these MPX projectors before the digital projectors were installed. The three Regal theaters here in town that retrofitted existing auditoriums used the MPX projectors (for only a few months) until the digital projectors were installed in early-to-mid 2009.
However, the IMAX theater I go to the most still has that original installed 1.44:1 screen. They went from using an SR projector to a digital one last year. The screen sizes are pretty apparent too:
41 x 56 feet (Brenden Palms; 1.44:1)
35 x 57 feet (Regal Red Rock; 1.78:1)
33 x 51 feet (Regal Aliante Stadium; 1.78:1)
24 x 48 feet (Regal Sunset Station; 2.1:1)
There's only one screen here in town with an installed screen of a 2.1:1 aspect ratio. But why even bother when it's almost half the size of the others in town (retrofitted or not)?
In case of the United States and Canada, these are most of the 70mm locations still left:
Spoiler:
The reason they're the few remaining? They all have screens close to, if not larger, 70 feet tall (and all have a wonderful 1.44:1 aspect ratio). Digital projectors suck on the large screens and that's why IMAX is waiting to have laser projectors before converting those locations over.
03-30-12 | 09:49 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
MovieWeb has a breakdown of what is available in the 2-disc set and the Best Buy exclusive 3-disc set:
Breakdown of MI:GP sets
Breakdown of MI:GP sets
03-31-12 | 12:47 AM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
I see now. Best Buy version is 2 Blu and 1 DVD while the normal version is 1 Blu and 1 DVD. Love that the Best Buy version has an entire disc dedicated to the movie alone (Disc 1). I was on the fence but I'm definitely hitting Best Buy now.
Thanks, zekeburger.
Thanks, zekeburger.
03-31-12 | 11:09 AM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
i believe all versions have 2 Blu-rays, 1 DVD, but BB version just has more extras on its 2nd disc.
03-31-12 | 11:20 AM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
Ah. Never mind then. I was on my 3rd margarita when I wrote that last night. Made sense to me then.
04-01-12 | 12:55 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
Until films became DMR'd, the OAR for films shot and shown in IMAX was always 1.44:1.
When Disney released Beauty and the Beast, Fantasia 2000, The Lion King, and Treasure Planet in the beginning of the millenium, they were newly created 70mm IMAX prints and did not have to go through the Digital Media Remastering process from IMAX.
Everything else since then has.
Apollo 13 was the first one up and not only had 25 minutes removed, but was cropped from 2.35:1 to 1.44:1 to take full advantage of the IMAX aspect ratio. When Attack of the Clones came out in IMAX a few months later, 22 minutes were removed, but it was the first DMR processed title to retain its 2.35:1 aspect ratio. [The Disney films all had aspect ratios of 1.66:1 or 1.85:1.]
Almost a year later, when platter sizes were increased, The Matrix sequels retained their running times and OAR of 2.35:1 and the last sequel was the first DMR title to have an IMAX release day-and-date with its theatrical release date and set the standard for IMAX DMR films to come.
Speed Racer was the first IMAX DMR release created digitally. However, I saw it both times in separate IMAX theaters in 70mm. The first time was in an auditorium specifically created for IMAX digital (it finally got the digital projector at the beginning of 2009). The second screening just became a digital IMAX venue since the release of Super 8.
Most IMAX DMR'd films are getting released digital only anyways. In 2011, 10 out of 25 DMR films were released in digital only.
In 2012? So far, 3 out of 7 were released digital only. Nobody knows if Titanic will be digital only in part due to the film's running time, but The Avengers, the next Resident Evil sequel, and Frankenweenie will be digital only.
Of course, for the time being, there are a handful (fifty locations are so) that can't go digital due to the size of the IMAX screen. Those locations will go digital when IMAX begins its rollout of their Kodak laser projectors which will replace ALL 70mm projectors AND ALL current digital setups.
When Disney released Beauty and the Beast, Fantasia 2000, The Lion King, and Treasure Planet in the beginning of the millenium, they were newly created 70mm IMAX prints and did not have to go through the Digital Media Remastering process from IMAX.
Everything else since then has.
Apollo 13 was the first one up and not only had 25 minutes removed, but was cropped from 2.35:1 to 1.44:1 to take full advantage of the IMAX aspect ratio. When Attack of the Clones came out in IMAX a few months later, 22 minutes were removed, but it was the first DMR processed title to retain its 2.35:1 aspect ratio. [The Disney films all had aspect ratios of 1.66:1 or 1.85:1.]
Almost a year later, when platter sizes were increased, The Matrix sequels retained their running times and OAR of 2.35:1 and the last sequel was the first DMR title to have an IMAX release day-and-date with its theatrical release date and set the standard for IMAX DMR films to come.
Speed Racer was the first IMAX DMR release created digitally. However, I saw it both times in separate IMAX theaters in 70mm. The first time was in an auditorium specifically created for IMAX digital (it finally got the digital projector at the beginning of 2009). The second screening just became a digital IMAX venue since the release of Super 8.
Most IMAX DMR'd films are getting released digital only anyways. In 2011, 10 out of 25 DMR films were released in digital only.
In 2012? So far, 3 out of 7 were released digital only. Nobody knows if Titanic will be digital only in part due to the film's running time, but The Avengers, the next Resident Evil sequel, and Frankenweenie will be digital only.
Of course, for the time being, there are a handful (fifty locations are so) that can't go digital due to the size of the IMAX screen. Those locations will go digital when IMAX begins its rollout of their Kodak laser projectors which will replace ALL 70mm projectors AND ALL current digital setups.
I wish I had seen Speed Racer in IMAX - a guilty pleasure that would have looked insane on the huge screen.
Matthew in terms of the new Barco IMAX digital technology what is the timetable when it will be implemented?
04-02-12 | 04:23 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
You're wrong.
There are a few digital IMAX screens that exist that in the original 1.44:1 aspect ratio and there's been a few films to play in that OAR since IMAX has shifted gears to digital (such as Born to be Wild 3D). However, those screens are few and far between. The rest, like other digital projectors, has an OAR of 1.89:1.
I saw the same film in a ten-year-old IMAX theater that just did the change to digital and it was easy to tell the moments it changed from 2.35:1 to 1.89:1. If you saw the film in what was conceived from the start to be a digital IMAX theater, than yes, it's not going to be a worthwhile experience.
There are a few digital IMAX screens that exist that in the original 1.44:1 aspect ratio and there's been a few films to play in that OAR since IMAX has shifted gears to digital (such as Born to be Wild 3D). However, those screens are few and far between. The rest, like other digital projectors, has an OAR of 1.89:1.
I saw the same film in a ten-year-old IMAX theater that just did the change to digital and it was easy to tell the moments it changed from 2.35:1 to 1.89:1. If you saw the film in what was conceived from the start to be a digital IMAX theater, than yes, it's not going to be a worthwhile experience.
IMAX does not have digital projectors that will project a 1.44:1 image, unless the theater is overscanning the screen and/or cropping picture from the sides.
04-02-12 | 04:25 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
You're correct. The Matrix Reloaded was the first DMR'ed film to retain its original aspect ratio letterboxed on the screen. Attack of the Clones was cropped to 1.44:1.
04-11-12 | 07:26 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
Best Buy ad beginning April 15 posted on blu-ray.com:
Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol:
2-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack (includes UltraViolet Digital Copy) - $22.99
3-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack (includes UltraViolet Digital Copy) - $22.99
(Exclusive Price on Tuesday 4/17/12 only: $19.99)
*Best Buy exclusive with over 1 hour of bonus content*
2-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack (includes UltraViolet Digital Copy) - $22.99
3-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack (includes UltraViolet Digital Copy) - $22.99
(Exclusive Price on Tuesday 4/17/12 only: $19.99)
*Best Buy exclusive with over 1 hour of bonus content*
04-11-12 | 08:02 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
Nice...$14.99 for the 3-disc BD with my $5 RZ coupon. I'll try really hard to pick it up Tuesday.
04-11-12 | 08:18 PM
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Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
Just a heads up for Canadians. The BB Special Edition will be a FS exclusive here in Canada. The flyer states the price will be $26.99.