The Official "3D" Blu ray Thread. Now with Smell-O-Vision.
#727
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The Hong Kong edition is the safest bet, since I found a pic of the back cover that explicitly states its regions A,B, and C, and any extras would be 60i or NTSC, like in the US:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-B...-/322512467420
The Finland disc is also all-region, and looks like it's probably the same disc for all of Europe.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-B...-/192163165079
This post says that the Australian one is region free as well:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....2#post13546972
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-B...-/322512467420
The Finland disc is also all-region, and looks like it's probably the same disc for all of Europe.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-B...-/192163165079
This post says that the Australian one is region free as well:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....2#post13546972
#728
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Got my Australian version of Underworld: Blood Wars 3D yesterday. For anyone interested, it played just fine on my American PS3... both the 3D disc and the 2D disc. The supplemental material played as well, but the UltraViolet code wouldn't work when I tried to redeem it. (I wasn't really surprised or disappointed about that though.) Ironically/sadly, the 3D effects were nothing to get excited about. I didn't see any pop out, and most of the time any depth that was added was hard to appreciate because the scenes were dark. The surround sound was fantastic though!
#729
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^^^ Thanks for taking one for the team. I was tempted, even though I didn't care for the movie too much, but I was interested in the 3D. I guess that answers my question on how good it is.
#730
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Got my Australian version of Underworld: Blood Wars 3D yesterday. For anyone interested, it played just fine on my American PS3... both the 3D disc and the 2D disc. The supplemental material played as well, but the UltraViolet code wouldn't work when I tried to redeem it. (I wasn't really surprised or disappointed about that though.) Ironically/sadly, the 3D effects were nothing to get excited about. I didn't see any pop out, and most of the time any depth that was added was hard to appreciate because the scenes were dark. The surround sound was fantastic though!
#731
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
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Better crappy 3D than no 3D. I got it from Germany though I likely won't have time to watch it til the next decade or so. Just got The Great Wall in from France today which I'll likely watch sooner, also picked up the Kraftwerk set from the local record store.
#732
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
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Tried watching X-Men Apocalypse in 3D last night but had to bail after a few minutes because the crosstalk was horrendous. I'm not sure if the glasses had lost too much of their charge, if my eyes are getting too bad, or if it's the projector- but whatever it was, it was very disappointing.
Fortunately I ended up enjoying it in 2D just fine, and not once during the film wished i was seeing a particular scene or effect in 3D.
Fortunately I ended up enjoying it in 2D just fine, and not once during the film wished i was seeing a particular scene or effect in 3D.
#733
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
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Great thing about passive 3D- no charging! Though it doesn't seem like projectors can do that.
#734
DVD Talk Legend
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I imagine it's related to the cost of integrating the necessary polarized lenses, and the fact that the lenses will dim the output of the projector, with light projected always an issue with projectors. Active 3D is easier, since it requires no additional hardware on the projector.
Movie theater projectors use a "polarization modulator" filter that sits in front of the projector and can be moved in and out of the way. This modulator actually switches between the two polarizations very fast.
https://www.barco.com/en/StaticPages...on%20explained
http://www.depthq.com/cinema-modulator.html
There was such a modulator screen available for home projectors, although it was a bit pricey:
http://www.projectorreviews.com/3d-d...jector-system/
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...modulator.html
There's also dual-projector passive 3D setups for home theaters, with each screen showing only their "side" of the image.
#736
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Passive 3D projection also requires a special polarized screen, which makes 2D images projected onto it look terrible. Someone who goes the passive projection route in a home theater will really need to have two screens, one dedicated to 2D and one for 3D. That's really impractical and rarely done.
#737
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BTW, early cinemas used screens with silver materials to reflect more light directly back from the projector towards the center audience, since projector illumination was a lot lower then and they needed all the help they could get. This is where the term "silver screen" comes from. It also helped with the first push of 3D on B&W film, since they could use synced polarized projectors and polarized glasses. However, once projectors started being brighter, theater owners started going with just white screens, which also allowed for putting more seating off-center of the screen, since light scattered off to the sides more. It unfortunately had the side effect of polarized 3D no longer working, which is why the 80s 3D revival through the 90s primarily used the red/blue anaglyph 3D, which didn't work as well as polarized, but worked on the plethora of white screens around at the time.
RealD 3D in cinemas use a silver screen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealD_3D
http://www.edcf.net/edcf_docs/real-d.pdf
The image is projected onto a silver screen. Silver is required to maintain the polarization of the projected image. The silver screen has a gain of 2.4, referring to the fact that it preferentially reflects the light towards the audience, providing a brighter image than would be available from a matte white screen
#738
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We're saying essentially the same thing.
2D projected onto a silver screen looks awful.
2D projected onto a silver screen looks awful.
#739
DVD Talk Legend
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There's also probably going to need to be more consideration on where/how you place the projector, as you want to make sure the reflected angle is coming towards you, the audience. So a ceiling-mounted projector may work better, since it projects slightly down to the screen, which then reflects slightly down again to hit the audience. A projector mounted from the floor may be pointing up to the screen, which would then reflect up to the ceiling, reducing what the audience sees.
"Hot Spotting" can also be an issue, but again this can be addressed via projector placement.
http://www.projectorreviews.com/home...ection-part-7/
Silver screens have a reputation for not being well suited for conventional 2D projection due to a tendency to have “hot spotting” and a limited viewing angle. The hot spotting limitation can be partially addressed by mounting the projector near the longest possible projector-to-screen throw distance (i.e., using minimum zoom) for the given screen size.
#740
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Silver screens also wash out the black levels in the image and throw off the hue of all the colors.
#741
DVD Talk Legend
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http://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-scr...er-review.html
If you want no-nonsense performance and accurate delivery of colors and whites I highly recommend a white-based screen. If you are trying to overcome some limitations of your equipment or environment, like poor black level, a grey screen may be for you. If you want what is possibly the best of both worlds and an awesome punch to your image, you should really consider what Silver could do for you.
#742
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If you want a screen for general viewing, 3D and/or HDR go find a used Dalite Hi-Power. I still have mine and it is amazing for just about everything as long as you keep your projector within a few feet, above or below you. That material would be selling off the rack if it was kept in production.
#743
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I don't remember any of the 80s 3D movies using the red-and-blue format; in fact I'm wondering how they went about with the silver screens as I saw two of them in really crappy theaters but the 3D worked nonetheless. White screens were the reason why the 3D segment in "Freddy's Dead" used the red/blue format though, as did Spy Kids 3D and The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl or whatever it's called.
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Treasure of the Four Crowns, Jaws 3D, Friday the 13th, Spacehunter, I believe we're all red/blue...
#745
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No, those were all polarized. They used the single projector "over/under" technique, where they stacked left and right in the same frame and used a special lens to overlap the images, as opposed to the old technique of using 2 projectors.
#746
DVD Talk Legend
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Spy Kids and Sharkboy were anaglyph because they were very cheap, independently produced movies and Robert Rodriguez didn't have the resources or the clout to get distribution in any other format.
#747
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Are you sure about that?
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-scr...er-review.html
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-scr...er-review.html
#748
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I remember seeing Superman Returns at the IMAX and that red pair of eyeglasses that would start to flash when it was time to put on the glasses, just to see the 20 minutes or so converted to 3D. Too bad that may never see the light of day.
#749
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Disney continues the streak of skipping 3D versions of their live action films for US. No Beauty and the Beast is available for the US, but at least it's available in other countries. Now I have to make the decision to import or pick up the Best Buy steelbook next week.
Ghost in the Shell 3D was just announced though for 7/25, so at least that's promising.
Ghost in the Shell 3D was just announced though for 7/25, so at least that's promising.