Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
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I remember on one of the EE discs the featurettes documenting the color grading, that alot of time and attention was given in the DI process to the look of 'Fellowship' - here though the bluray's color altering pretty much negates that - this all seems like another freak out to the supposed 'mess up' on the Ten Commandment's bluray release (which was grossly overreacted to).
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Not necessarily. Anyone who has used tinted ski goggles is likely aware that the brain adjusts to the color tint in short order. Seeing differences side-by-side may show differences that are much less perceptible when viewing the movie as a whole. That's one of the problems with screen captures.
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They are all pressed. Reviewers should be getting it tomorrow. Bill, as usual, is "special" as he's on studios payroll. That's why some people don't trust his reviewers, as he gets paid by the studios for advertisement. Journalistic integrity is thrown at the window (i.e. his BDA Party during the format war most of us talk about).
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I hope you're not trying to suggest I took Bill's review as gospel. I'm not sure I've ever really thought much of TDB's technical reviews. They're good for certain news scoops.
Just laughing at the demonstrated instant vitriol when Hunt's name is mentioned., It's been over 3 years since HD DVD died - geez.
I guess I'll just stay in my house - don't want any blowback from the internet explosion.
Just laughing at the demonstrated instant vitriol when Hunt's name is mentioned., It's been over 3 years since HD DVD died - geez.
I guess I'll just stay in my house - don't want any blowback from the internet explosion.
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See that's my point. If they screwed the color timing because they needed to do a new master of FOTR and wound up messing with the color, then it needs to be fixed. If, however, the color timing was a creative decision, I would think the timing would have been adjusted for all three films. Unfortunately it sounds like the former may be true.
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And FYI - Warner does not allow screencaps to be posted. If they find out, they go bonkers. If you buy your own discs, you can do what you want (i.e. DVDBeaver). Of course, some times get away with it...
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They are all pressed. Reviewers should be getting it tomorrow. Bill, as usual, is "special" as he's on studios payroll. That's why some people don't trust his reviewers, as he gets paid by the studios for advertisement. Journalistic integrity is thrown at the window (i.e. his BDA Party during the format war most of us talk about).
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I'm sorry, but Warner fucked this set up from day one with the announcement they were going to be using nine DVDs for all of the bonus materials rather than BDs. Even if everything is standard definition (8GB a disc max, 72GB maximum total of standard definition content in MPEG-2) they could've used 2-3 BDs instead. That's just cheap and fucking lazy.
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For those that havn't seen them yet, here are some examples from AVS forum. I think I read that the issue is only on Fellowship as well.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59846
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59855
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59621
Credit goes to Litlgi74 over at avsforum for posting
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59846
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59855
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59621
Credit goes to Litlgi74 over at avsforum for posting
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agreed (I went too).
I distinctly remember the Council scene looking its normal warm, orangy color. I remember the white snow being very white.
From the screenshots at blubrew it seems like only the white snow scenes look really bad. Everything else seems either OK or sometimes better (the Saruman/top of Orthanc scene at the screenshot comparison site looked LESS blue / better IMO).
The white scenes look kinda terrible though.
I distinctly remember the Council scene looking its normal warm, orangy color. I remember the white snow being very white.
From the screenshots at blubrew it seems like only the white snow scenes look really bad. Everything else seems either OK or sometimes better (the Saruman/top of Orthanc scene at the screenshot comparison site looked LESS blue / better IMO).
The white scenes look kinda terrible though.
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I've seen pics of it somewhere, but don't have the time to try to find them now.
It's three five-disc BD cases in a box with a foldout cover that has a map of Middle-Earth.
The cases are black plastic rather than the usual blue.
It's three five-disc BD cases in a box with a foldout cover that has a map of Middle-Earth.
The cases are black plastic rather than the usual blue.
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Full review from Bluray.com. Sounds good to me. Glad I preordered this when B&N had their 50% sale
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Lo.../12237/#Review
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Lo.../12237/#Review
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They've never complained about my screen caps, as far as I know. I'm not sure how many radars I'm on, though.
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You got lucky. We had to remove out Batman Anthology caps even though they looked awesome. Of course, we had to use their supplied crappy looking images....sigh.
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No, no. I'm was commenting on your jest. And after all this, yeah, when you are on a studios payroll, it's questionable. HDD does not receive money directly from the studios to advertise. Nor do most websites. I don't believe DVDTalk does (at least, maybe not anymore since IB Brands owns them). I'm sure Supr could comment.
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I fully agree the timeline is not good for the review - it does show a glossing over. Which would be OK if the initial post had been something like "on a cursory glance detail looks great, etc. I will more fully review in the next few days." That's probably what should have happened.
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Full review from Bluray.com. Sounds good to me. Glad I preordered this when B&N had their 50% sale
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Lo.../12237/#Review
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Lo.../12237/#Review
Haven't been happy with the screenshots I've seen so far. Why do they look so much darker?
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Personally, as a whole, I think the new transfer looks fantastic. The color looks just a tad wonky in a couple of the shots, but overall I think it looks great. I'm surprised by how bright and washed out the old transfer looks to me now. Guess we'll see once I see the actual disc for myself...
EDIT: Maybe it's just personal preference, but I think the EE version looks much improved in this shot. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59855
EDIT: Maybe it's just personal preference, but I think the EE version looks much improved in this shot. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59855
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See that's my point. If they screwed the color timing because they needed to do a new master of FOTR and wound up messing with the color, then it needs to be fixed. If, however, the color timing was a creative decision, I would think the timing would have been adjusted for all three films. Unfortunately it sounds like the former may be true.
I do not know the answer to this. But if it does turn out that the new colors are Jackson's doing, this wouldn't be the first time a filmmaker has made questionable decisions regarding the way his movie should be presented.