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Josh-da-man 03-06-11 07:36 PM

Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
 

Originally Posted by joltman (Post 10668301)

I'm guessing that means that for each film, we get one Blu-ray disc and then discs 3 and 4 from the Extended Edition DVDs, and disc two from the Limited Editions.

If that's the case, then this is probably a "pass" from me.

I'll wait until they do a real special blu-ray edition for these movies, wait for a significant price drop, or wait until they're released as movie-only editions.

I know that there are still quite a few deleted scenes that haven't been seen yet, and I'd really like to see the Aragorn vs Sauron fight from ROTK completed and included.

Giles 03-06-11 07:43 PM

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The Quest Is Over: All 3 Extended Versions in Dazzling 1080p and DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio. Deluxe Set Includes 9 Special Features DVDs with over 26 Hours of Spellbinding Behind-the-Moviemaking Material Including the Rare Costa Botes Documentaries.
well that's wrong... the DVD's had stellar DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 sound, the blurays better not have 5.1

dsa_shea 03-06-11 07:50 PM

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Why not just pack the special features for each one on BDs? It would make a decent 6 disc set. I'm not interested in getting the same 3 dvds per movie that I already have from the first time around with these extended versions.

Superdaddy 03-06-11 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10668470)
well that's wrong... the DVD's had stellar DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 sound, the blurays better not have 5.1

Just noticed this. Hopefully that's a typo...

The theatrical BDs were 5.1 with the matrixed back channel, correct? My back speakers were definitely occupied with those.

Solid Snake 03-06-11 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdaddy (Post 10668441)
Not really interested in these at any kind of high price if all the extras are the same. I bought the theatrical BDs when they were $7.99 at amazon during Black Friday. I have the extendeds on DVD and will keep them as such unless the BDs come down to some unbelievable price. I smell a super-duper boxed set including these plus The Hobbit films down the road. I'll wait for that.

hearing this news...makes me regret I didn't get each BD for that price. Fuck.

Giles 03-06-11 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdaddy (Post 10668486)
Just noticed this. Hopefully that's a typo...

The theatrical BDs were 5.1 with the matrixed back channel, correct? My back speakers were definitely occupied with those.

correct, the theatrical cuts were matrixed, the extended cuts: discrete, and had a much fuller and aggressive back surround soundscape. The difference between the two is dramatic and obviousily the discrete mix is noticeably superior to the matrixed version. A great test comparison of the two is the attack of the witch king between King Theoden and Eowyn - the discrete is tighter, louder and includes sound that is just not present in the matrixed mix.

Spottedfeather 03-06-11 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10668470)
well that's wrong... the DVD's had stellar DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 sound, the blurays better not have 5.1

6.1 sound would great, but most people don't have huge, expensive 6.1 systems.

Spottedfeather 03-06-11 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10595198)
Not really. I just watched my BD of TTT and remembered something that bugged me when I saw it theatrically. The theatrical cut of TTT is made with the assumption that you watched the extended cut of TTT. Frodo suddenly knowing that Gollum's true name is Smeagol makes no sense given that he didn't learn his name in the theatrical cut of FOTR. that bit of information is given in the extended cut of FOTR.

Also, the theatrcial cut of TTT actually drags quite a bit. Particularly any scene regarding Eomer. He comes across as a complete dick in the theatrical cut and his scenes grind the film to a halt. The extended cut actually fleshes him out a whole lot better and takes him from annoying asshole in boring scenes to intruigingly troubled man in an interesting moral dilemma.

Are you sure about that ? Wasn't Smeagol/Gollum explained ? I've never seen the extended cuts, nor do I ever care to even if you paid me, but I seem to remember a scene where it shows Smeagol before he became Gollum.

Jay G. 03-06-11 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10595198)
Not really. I just watched my BD of TTT and remembered something that bugged me when I saw it theatrically. The theatrical cut of TTT is made with the assumption that you watched the extended cut of TTT. Frodo suddenly knowing that Gollum's true name is Smeagol makes no sense given that he didn't learn his name in the theatrical cut of FOTR. that bit of information is given in the extended cut of FOTR.

It's not shown the the theatrical cut of FOTR, but in TTT, Frodo says that Gandalf told him Gollum's true name. I think most of the audience that only saw FOTR TE just assumed Gandalf told him off screen.


Originally Posted by Spottedfeather (Post 10668627)
Are you sure about that ? Wasn't Smeagol/Gollum explained ? I've never seen the extended cuts, nor do I ever care to even if you paid me, but I seem to remember a scene where it shows Smeagol before he became Gollum.

The scene you're thinking of is the opening of the third film, ROTK. So that's shown after Frodo says Gollum's true name. Interestingly, that flashback was originally supposed to be shown in TTT when Frodo says the name, but was cut because it didn't quite work there. Then it was going to be added into the EE of TTT, but then they decided it worked as the opening for ROTK.

Superdaddy 03-07-11 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10668556)
correct, the theatrical cuts were matrixed, the extended cuts: discrete, and had a much fuller and aggressive back surround soundscape. The difference between the two is dramatic and obviousily the discrete mix is noticeably superior to the matrixed version. A great test comparison of the two is the attack of the witch king between King Theoden and Eowyn - the discrete is tighter, louder and includes sound that is just not present in the matrixed mix.

Cool! I didn't have surround the last time I played the extendeds. I'll have to pull 'em out and check out those much-vaunted DTS tracks. I thought the theatrical BDs had pretty much reference quality audio, all three of them, so I look forward to having my mind blown further with discrete 6.1.

Superdaddy 03-07-11 06:03 AM

Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
 

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather (Post 10668624)
6.1 sound would great, but most people don't have huge, expensive 6.1 systems.

Maybe, but if the discrete mix was on the DVDs, why not carry it over to the BDs? People might upgrade their systems eventually and will then really appreciate it. No reason to downgrade the mix for BD.

Heck, I have a cheap 7.1 system, and I want the discrete mixes. I look forward to checking them out on the existing DVDs, as I thought the matrixed versions were really good.

As I said, hopefully the info we've been given is a typo, and the sound on these BDs will be lossless versions of the discrete 6.1 tracks the DVDs got.

TylerDurden_73 03-07-11 07:26 AM

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I just watched the extended edition of TTT, And the dolby ex track had more bass and was a more aggressive mix than the dts mix. But the dts mixes on fellowship and return were better than their dolby mixes. weird...

Quack 03-07-11 07:31 AM

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PRODUCT ALERT:
"The Lord of the Rings (Extended Editions)" is scheduled to be released on Blu-ray in 2011 or 2012.

mewmartigan 03-07-11 07:40 AM

Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10668648)
It's not shown the the theatrical cut of FOTR, but in TTT, Frodo says that Gandalf told him Gollum's true name. I think most of the audience that only saw FOTR TE just assumed Gandalf told him off screen.


The scene you're thinking of is the opening of the third film, ROTK. So that's shown after Frodo says Gollum's true name. Interestingly, that flashback was originally supposed to be shown in TTT when Frodo says the name, but was cut because it didn't quite work there. Then it was going to be added into the EE of TTT, but then they decided it worked as the opening for ROTK.


I am pretty sure that Gandalf tells Frodo what Gollum's real name is in the theatrical version of FOTR.

Its the scene in Moria where Frodo tells Gandalf they are being followed. Gandalf says "i know, its Gollum". And at some point while they speak of Gollum and how Frodo wishes Bilbo had killed him, I think Gandalf mentions he was "once called Smeagol" to show Frodo that he was a normal "person" like everyone else and it was the ring that destroyed him.

Anubis2005X 03-07-11 07:57 AM

Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
 

Originally Posted by mewmartigan (Post 10668963)
I am pretty sure that Gandalf tells Frodo what Gollum's real name is in the theatrical version of FOTR.

Its the scene in Moria where Frodo tells Gandalf they are being followed. Gandalf says "i know, its Gollum". And at some point while they speak of Gollum and how Frodo wishes Bilbo had killed him, I think Gandalf mentions he was "once called Smeagol" to show Frodo that he was a normal "person" like everyone else and it was the ring that destroyed him.

He only says "Smeagol" in the extended cut, but Frodo does say it in the theatrical cut of the The Two Towers.

Giles 03-07-11 09:00 AM

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the preorder is up:

Lord of the Rings Trilogy Limited Extended Edition

List Price: $119.98
(Sale) Price: $83.99

JayDerek 03-07-11 09:08 AM

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http://www-images.theonering.org/tor..._No-41F39B.jpg

from theonering.net

gryffinmaster 03-07-11 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 10669063)

... and that'd be why this one's "limited". :up: I'm in.

Doctorossi 03-07-11 09:13 AM

Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
 

Originally Posted by gryffinmaster (Post 10669068)
... and that'd be why this one's "limited". :up: I'm in.

"That" being what, exactly?

gryffinmaster 03-07-11 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10669071)
"That" being what, exactly?

The map and the cards pictured, I believe, along with the digital copies.

I'd be in with or without the extra stuff, though (I wasn't voicing added interested in whatever the "limited" packaging will be).

tylergfoster 03-07-11 09:36 AM

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The "cards" are clearly the same booklets from the DVDs.

gryffinmaster 03-07-11 09:45 AM

Re: Lord of the Rings Extended Edition out in 2011
 

Originally Posted by droidguy1119 (Post 10669098)
The "cards" are clearly the same booklets from the DVDs.

You're right (just checked out the sets to refresh my memory). WB/NewLine are apparently resizing them then, since they're too big to fit in Blu-ray sized cases. Including booklets is a break from what they've been doing, though, and I'm not sure they'd be in any kind of individual releases.

MrStayPuft 03-07-11 09:51 AM

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So are the extras (docs and stuff) on blu ray? Or are they just a carry-over from dvd? Cause if they're dvd, I think that's kind of cheap.

Superdaddy 03-07-11 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MrStayPuft (Post 10669114)
So are the extras (docs and stuff) on blu ray? Or are they just a carry-over from dvd? Cause if they're dvd, I think that's kind of cheap.

It appears they will be on DVD...probably the same DVDs from the original EE sets packed in with the BDs.

They did the same thing with the theatrical BDs--just packed in the same bonus disc that came with the theatrical DVDs.

Artman 03-07-11 11:37 AM

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Good news, but gonna miss the dvd packaging... kinda wish they would've kept that design.


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