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Old 08-04-12, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jackson walker View Post
Perhaps it was part of the game plan this time. It was said that Sony, Toshiba and other DVD makers were surprised by how quickly China was able to mass produce cheap DVD players so early in the DVD life cycle. It cost the Japan companies a lot of R & D dollars (or in this case, yen), because they expected to keep prices on DVD players much higher for a longer period of time (sort of like the VHS life cycle).
Maybe they were ready for the cheaper Blu-ray players earlier in the cycle this time.
Cheap labour in China has been instrumental in making electronics cheap over the last 15 years.

I remember buying our first very basic RCA VCR in 1984 for $649. I bought a second VCR in 1993 which was an RCA 4-head stereo model which was $400. Both of these were made in Japan and considered the door-crasher sale prices.

It took a long time for consumer electronic prices to come down compared to few years later.

With the speed of changing technology there is only a small window of opportunity to sell a product before it is considered obsolete.

"Sell it cheap, sell it fast and sell a lot of it!" seems to be the motto these days.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post
Divx was only sold at Circuit City (IIRC). I don't think it was ever at Best Buy, Good Guys (remember them?), Target, etc.
I do, most retailers only stocked a small handfull if any until DIVX was no longer a contention, wasn't worth the rack space with such a rather small install base on both sides. For some reason I remember seeing DIVX in some grocery stores somewhere, which at the time seemed very odd.

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DIVX discs and players were actually sold at Circuit City, Good Guys and Ultimate Electronics. I also remember other retailers selling the DIVX discs for a brief period of time.

Thanks due to the death of DIVX, I was able to get my first DVD player at a steal!
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel View Post
DIVX discs and players were actually sold at Circuit City, Good Guys and Ultimate Electronics. I also remember other retailers selling the DIVX discs for a brief period of time.

Thanks due to the death of DIVX, I was able to get my first DVD player at a steal!
The entire thing feels like a lifetime ago. I spent a crapton of money on a Toshiba DVD player that got stolen when my apartment was robbed when i was undergrad at the University of Florida. Thankfully USAA was my insurance company and they replaced it with a Sony 7700 that still works but is enjoying retirement in a hall closet.

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Lowest week in years for OD.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post
Lowest week in years for OD.
Yeah, and with all of these red hot new releases, the charts should have been on fire.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-bargain...st-2012-a.html
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-bargain...th-2012-a.html
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Yeah, and with all of these red hot new releases, the charts should have been on fire.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-bargain...st-2012-a.html
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-bargain...th-2012-a.html
So catalog no longer matters? Best Buy is heavily advertising bringing in your old DVDs and dumping them for Blu-rays.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post
So catalog no longer matters? Best Buy is heavily advertising bringing in your old DVDs and dumping them for Blu-rays.
New releases typically drive the charts, no?
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Originally Posted by Sub-Zero View Post
July 28:

Last 3 new release I purchased:
1. Hatfields & McCoys - This week (Great)
2. Superman vs the Elite - June 17
3. Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows - June 17

I have traded in some of my old DVD for $5 off BR, used it for "Hatfields & McCoys" and about 6 other catalog titles on BR.

I want to purchase BR, but it has to be something that is very entertaining and I will watch it over/over again. Give the market quality (but, one man's quality is another man garbage) it will respond.

Would like to pick up:
1. JAWS
2. Battleship
3. The Walking Dead: The Complete Second Season
4. Avengers
5. Hunger Games (OK movie, but the wife really likes it)
6. Singing in the Rain (if the restore is as good as White Christmas then I will spend my hard earned money)
7. Indiana Jones Complete Set
8. Brave (Good, but I will only buy to complete my Pixar set)

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Old 08-13-12, 01:30 PM
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"The Dark Knight Rises" has given the "The Dark Knight" a huge boost in BR/DVD Sales...
(This could have come because of the "Movie Ticket Discount" deal)

Since July 1st:
BR = $12,540,587 (That is 12.5 Million Dollars)
DVD = $1,367,386

Total = $13,907,973

That is a great bump in the BR sales, I am sure now that TDK has gone over the $100 Million dollar mark is BR sales.

So, the list of BR over $100 million:
1. Avatar (Most likely the 1st title to ever go over the $100 million mark)
2. TDK
3. Star Wars the Complete Collection (True, it had 6 movies in the box, but did go over $100 million in two or three weeks)
4. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows P2 (went over Jan 15th 2012)


The Avengers may be the movie that shows the real muscle of BR sales.
-The only problem is Disney is charging a little higher amount for the BR
-And there will be several different versions of the BR release, not sure it they will all be added into the total sales figure for the BR

The percentage sales between the DVD and BR should be huge in favor of the BR.

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Unfortunately for BD, there aren't enough of these types of titles to make the format surpass DVD sales overall.
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant View Post
"The Dark Knight Rises" has given the "The Dark Knight" a huge boost in BR/DVD Sales...
(This could have come because of the "Movie Ticket Discount" deal)

Since July 1st:
BR = $12,540,587 (That is 12.5 Million Dollars)
DVD = $1,367,386

Total = $13,907,973
That's not a lot of money spread out across 3-4 weeks.

BD is pulling in (barely) 20 Mil weeks. Apparently, if not for TDKR, BD would have been significantly lower.

Some should be thankful that there are some big movies out this year otherwise BD would have likely seen it's first year of decline. Right now it should be lucky for a 10% gain. Guess that'll be next year.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post
That's not a lot of money spread out across 3-4 weeks.

BD is pulling in (barely) 20 Mil weeks. Apparently, if not for TDKR, BD would have been significantly lower.

Some should be thankful that there are some big movies out this year otherwise BD would have likely seen it's first year of decline. Right now it should be lucky for a 10% gain. Guess that'll be next year.
I was impressed because TDK came over 3 1/2 years ago, then it sells $12.5 Million in 4 weeks on BR, that may be the first time that has happened.

And yes, TDK has saved BR sales figure for July.

List of titles that will help sales:
Hunger Games - this Saturday
Battleship
Snow White and the Huntsman (maybe)
Avengers (Well be HUGE)
The Walking Dead
Brave
Indiana Jones: The Complete Adventures
(A bunch of older catalog titles: Jaws...)
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant View Post
I was impressed because TDK came over 3 1/2 years ago, then it sells $12.5 Million in 4 weeks on BR, that may be the first time that has happened.

And yes, TDK has saved BR sales figure for July.

List of titles that will help sales:
Hunger Games - this Saturday
Battleship
Snow White and the Huntsman (maybe)
Avengers (Well be HUGE)
The Walking Dead
Brave
Indiana Jones: The Complete Adventures
(A bunch of older catalog titles: Jaws...)
$3 Million a week isn't that impressive. It's $10 at Best Buy ($5 if you trade in a DVD) and comes with free movie cash. It's practically a no brainer.

Next year....well, no more big catalog left. It's all over. Studios have pretty much exhausted their big guns.

As for your list, Battleship, Snow White and Walking Dead won't be that big. TV hasn't been a big seller in years.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post
Next year....well, no more big catalog left. It's all over. Studios have pretty much exhausted their big guns.
I agree. Indy and Lawrence will be the last big, seminal titles to be released on the format. After that, it's pretty much up to new releases to rise the tide.
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August 4:

Ouch 2 weeks in a row.

Over 30% drop for each, "Avengers Assemble" to save the day.
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August 4:

Oh shit.
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I'm running out of shelf space, and time to watch stuff. I do what I can to keep the market afloat, but at least til I move to a bigger place I have to start being more discriminating in what I buy as I'm running out of room to store it all!
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Agreed that that's a scary report, but I was even more shocked when I looked at what was actually selling. I mean look at this list - the 1st two are catalog titles. Those are understandable because a sequel to them is now out - but further down the list - the Die Hard Collection!?

1 Batman Begins
2 The Dark Knight
3 Hatfields & McCoys
4 Mission: Impossible — Ghost Protocol
5 Total Recall: Mind-Bending Edition
6 The Mel Brooks Collection Fox
7 Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows
8 Wrath of the Titans
9 The Bourne Trilogy
10 American Reunion
11 Super 8
12 21 Jump Street
13 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
14 Lockout
15 Die Hard Collection
16 The Three Stooges
17 Despicable Me
18 Get the Gringo
19 Rio
20 Inception
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It's not hard to explain Die Hard's position there. It was heavily promoted as the Deal of the Week a few weeks ago at Amazon for $21.99. It's also recently been seen for $16.99 at Costco.

The Batmans aren't there just because of the sequel either. They were $4.99 after Upgrade & Save at Best Buy, plus they included $5 moviecash, so many people considered them essentially free.
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It goes beyond the Die Hard Collection.

In DVDs glory days would a title like Hatfield and McCoys be #3?
The Mel Brooks Collection at #6?
Super 8 is almost a year old.
Lockout? Who's even heard of it? It grossed 14 mill in the US and 25 mill worldwide.
Despicable Me and Inception are 1.5 years old.

It's obvious new major titles (usually action/comic book movies) sell well on initial release. But everything else winds up selling in such small numbers that 1+ year old titles, a mini-series or some no-name movie without any real stars can crack the Top 20.
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It goes beyond the Die Hard Collection.

But everything else winds up selling in such small numbers that 1+ year old titles, a mini-series or some no-name movie without any real stars can crack the Top 20.
That was basically the point I was trying to make by mentioning Die Hard. If an old title is able to crack the top 15 just because it's on sale that week, then sales per title must be extremely low.
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Where's that old stalwart Planet Earth? That sucker was in the top ten for about 100 weeks!
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