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Old 09-21-18, 08:28 AM
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

According to the latest DVD & Blu-ray release Report, so far in 2018, DVD has come out with 6725 titles and Blu-ray 1862. DVD releases are trending downward but still, that a huge difference, nearly a 4:1 ratio. No wonder why the DVD pie chart is still bigger.
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Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
According to the latest DVD & Blu-ray release Report, so far in 2018, DVD has come out with 6725 titles and Blu-ray 1862. DVD releases are trending downward but still, that a huge difference, nearly a 4:1 ratio. No wonder why the DVD pie chart is still bigger.
Unfortunately with Blu-ray, producers are still faced with huge up-front licensing fees making press-runs of anything under 5,000 units too expensive.

Pressing DVDs has none of these expensive licensing hurdles.

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Originally Posted by orangerunner View Post
Unfortunately with Blu-ray, producers are still faced with huge up-front licensing fees making press-runs of anything under 5,0000 units too expensive.
Does the same apply to UHD? I thought I read somewhere these "fees" either were non-existent or significantly scaled back for UHD.
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Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
According to the latest DVD & Blu-ray release Report, so far in 2018, DVD has come out with 6725 titles and Blu-ray 1862. DVD releases are trending downward but still, that a huge difference, nearly a 4:1 ratio. No wonder why the DVD pie chart is still bigger.
Obviously the studios don't find it profitable enough to release more titles on BD, or they would have done so. Especially when it seems the majority of BD sales are coming from a small amount of titles each year - and most limited within specific genres (ie. Marvel/DC movies, etc).
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How many of those DVD titles are standard def video to begin with though, such as old TV shows shot on videotape?
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee View Post
How many of those DVD titles are standard def video to begin with though, such as old TV shows shot on videotape?
I can't imagine the answer would be many.

Next time you're bored, flip through a list of new titles available on VOD, then look to see how many are on DVD and/or Blu-ray. Aside from things like comedy specials or concerts, basically everything is on or will soon be coming to DVD. If it's not a release from a large studio or a mini-major, it probably won't be coming to Blu-ray. As a horror fanatic, it's been especially tough, as basically every new release that isn't from a big player is DVD/VOD, bypassing Blu-ray altogether.
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Originally Posted by big e View Post
Does the same apply to UHD? I thought I read somewhere these "fees" either were non-existent or significantly scaled back for UHD.
I imagine UHD is still part of the Blu-ray Disc Association so the same licensing rules would probably apply. I haven't looked into it for a couple of years so I don't know if they dropped the fees but judging from the lack of releases, they probably still apply.

I seem to remember you (or the company you use) had to be an active member of the Blu-ray Association. Each disc had to have AACS encryption which was a very expensive licensed software. The master disc had to be specifically mastered in order for the glass master to be made.

With DVD replication, none of these hurdles apply. You can spit something out of your consumer grade DVD-R recorder and make 1,000 replicated pressed copies if you wanted.

I think that's where Blu-ray dropped the ball and DVD did so well, was appealing to the smaller producers of documentaries, fitness videos, educational films, product demonstration DVDs etc. None of these customers moved to the Blu-ray disc because of the added cost involved.

Yet these smaller companies making smaller volumes were (and still are) hugely influential to the ongoing success of DVD.

Even the big studios had smaller titles such as "We Are Your Friends" and "The Medller" released on DVD only.

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Originally Posted by orangerunner View Post
Unfortunately with Blu-ray, producers are still faced with huge up-front licensing fees making press-runs of anything under 5,000 units too expensive.

Pressing DVDs has none of these expensive licensing hurdles.
Would that be one reason that studios have stopped releasing tv series on blu-ray?
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Would that be one reason that studios have stopped releasing tv series on blu-ray?
Producing a 10-disc set is expensive on Blu-ray although I can say for sure whether this requires 10 separate licensing agreements.

I think they probably just felt that releasing high-def versions of standard-def TV shows that many fans already had on DVD was probably not worth the effort. Easy access to Netflix was obviously very influential as well.
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Originally Posted by orangerunner View Post
I haven't looked into it for a couple years so I don't know if they dropped the fees but judging from the lack of releases, they probably still apply.
Given how many labels release runs of discs far smaller than that, I can't imagine this is currently the case.

Runs of 1,500 are common for some of the titles carried by Ronin Flix, for instance. Code Red has had editions limited to 1,000 total without any premium pricing. Many Twilight Time titles are limited to 3,000. Zavvi has had several exclusives limited to 1,000 or even just 500 copies, which were still pressed (rather than BD-Rs). Heck, the Document of the Dead L.E. that Synapse was selling exclusively on their site way back in 2012 was limited to 1,500.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner View Post
Given how many labels release runs of discs far smaller than that, I can't imagine this is currently the case.

Runs of 1,500 are common for some of the titles carried by Ronin Flix, for instance. Code Red has had editions limited to 1,000 total without any premium pricing. Many Twilight Time titles are limited to 3,000. Zavvi has had several exclusives limited to 1,000 or even just 500 copies, which were still pressed (rather than BD-Rs). Heck, the Document of the Dead L.E. that Synapse was selling exclusively on their site way back in 2012 was limited to 1,500.
I'm not suggesting Blu-ray is prohibitively expensive but there's over $2000 of glass master/licensing fees up-front. Of course as you press higher volumes this cost gets amortized and becomes less significant. These up-front fees work out to roughly $2/disc on 1000 units on top of the cost of the discs themselves and the packaging. An equivalent fully-packaged DVD probably comes in at less than $.80/unit.

In the cases of the limited edition short-run Blu-ray titles, they usually sell in the $30-$40 range and can still turn a profit.

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A few retail Blu ray discs are on BD-Rs too (such as the Tower Records doc All Things Must Pass.) Those arenít any harder for me to burn than DVDs though they do take longer.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner View Post
Given how many labels release runs of discs far smaller than that, I can't imagine this is currently the case.

Runs of 1,500 are common for some of the titles carried by Ronin Flix, for instance. Code Red has had editions limited to 1,000 total without any premium pricing. Many Twilight Time titles are limited to 3,000. Zavvi has had several exclusives limited to 1,000 or even just 500 copies, which were still pressed (rather than BD-Rs). Heck, the Document of the Dead L.E. that Synapse was selling exclusively on their site way back in 2012 was limited to 1,500.
I'm not going to 'out' any particular labels, as I actually like and appreciate so many of them regardless, but I do know some labels play fast and loose with exactly how limited their print runs really are.
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX View Post
I'm not going to 'out' any particular labels, as I actually like and appreciate so many of them regardless, but I do know some labels play fast and loose with exactly how limited their print runs really are.
I was thinking the same thing...
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Updated thru week ending 9/22/18
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)

Code:
Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2018 TBO2017

2018 MPN    2775.32   -13.7%    1525.22   -20.2%    1250.16   -4.1%    45.0%    8722.4  7839.2

Q3   MPN     795.12   -11.7%     423.61   -20.9%     371.53    1.9%    46.7%    2720.8  2281.6

38  9/22      69.33   -21.8%      36.66   -19.4%      32.67  -24.4%    47.1 %    417.2   461.0
37  9/15      53.02   -20.8%      32.71   -22.3%      20.31  -18.3%    38.3 %    160.3   176.9
36  9/8       57.96   -13.5%      34.43   -19.7%      23.53   -2.4%    40.6 %     99.1    94.6
35  9/1       64.90   -15.9%      36.03   -18.9%      28.87  -11.9%    44.5 %    152.1    74.9
34  8/25      82.04    -8.8%      37.00   -17.5%      45.05    0.2%    54.9 %    350.5   389.8
33  8/18      93.35    34.5%      38.37   -12.8%      54.99  116.4%    58.9 %    682.7   157.8
32  8/11      57.57   -12.3%      31.25   -27.4%      26.32   16.6%    45.7 %    102.9   109.0
31  8/4       59.94   -12.8%      34.73   -22.2%      25.21    4.7%    42.1 %     70.6    79.3
30  7/28      62.39   -17.5%      33.19   -26.5%      29.20   -4.2%    46.8 %    138.8   252.3
29  7/21      78.20     0.2%      39.76   -13.8%      38.44   20.5%    49.2 %    266.6   178.7
28  7/14      56.80   -35.5%      33.77   -32.0%      23.03  -40.1%    40.5 %    209.8   289.2
27  7/7       59.62    -8.3%      35.71   -17.7%      23.91   10.4%    40.1 %     70.2    18.0

Q2   MPN     891.42   -20.6%     489.53   -23.1%     401.90  -17.2%    45.1%    2420.5  3048.0

26  6/30      59.30   -17.2%      35.52   -21.0%      23.78  -10.7%    40.1 %     44.3   117.6
25  6/23      65.01   -14.7%      36.87   -21.5%      28.13   -3.8%    43.3 %    102.6    33.4
24  6/16      75.55   -28.3%      40.59   -26.3%      34.97  -30.5%    46.3 %    250.1   276.2
23  6/9       62.28   -42.6%      33.59   -35.7%      28.70  -49.0%    46.1 %    155.3   521.3
22  6/2       58.48   -19.5%      33.78   -25.2%      24.71  -10.0%    42.2 %     32.7   106.2
21  5/26      65.17   -19.9%      34.80   -21.8%      30.37  -17.5%    46.6 %    164.2   457.7
20  5/19      92.29    36.4%      41.58     0.9%      50.71   91.8%    54.9 %    703.7    79.7
19  5/12      70.17    -8.5%      38.37   -18.3%      31.80    7.0%    45.3 %    103.7   115.1
18  5/5       66.66    -6.5%      37.99   -16.9%      28.67   12.0%    43.0 %    190.2   114.5
17  4/28      61.67   -17.5%      35.19   -20.2%      26.47  -13.6%    42.9 %    191.6   181.6
16  4/21      63.67   -10.2%      37.29   -14.1%      26.39   -4.0%    41.4 %    120.5   171.9
15  4/14      78.87   -33.0%      42.39   -36.4%      36.47  -28.5%    46.2 %    273.2   283.3
14  4/7       72.30   -43.3%      41.57   -30.4%      30.73  -54.6%    42.5 %     88.4   589.6

Q1   MPN    1088.78    -8.7%     612.08   -17.2%     476.73    5.2%    43.8%    3581.1  2509.6

13  3/31     138.87    22.9%      63.50     4.8%      75.37   43.8%    54.3 %    620.3   344.2
12  3/24     105.79     2.6%      56.99    -4.5%      48.81   12.3%    46.1 %    532.4   340.7
11  3/17     113.04    14.9%      54.97   -11.8%      58.07   61.2%    51.4 %    445.2   191.4
10  3/10     111.47    -8.4%      54.01   -20.0%      57.46    6.1%    51.5 %    373.0   268.5
9   3/3      102.82    -4.7%      55.08   -13.7%      47.74    8.4%    46.4 %    434.6   311.2
8   2/24      73.91   -20.6%      48.85   -21.2%      25.06  -19.4%    33.9 %    158.4   143.5
7   2/17      70.73   -20.9%      45.34   -22.0%      25.40  -18.7%    32.7 %     51.8   159.2
6   2/10      61.97   -33.1%      40.53   -31.0%      21.44  -36.8%    34.6 %    102.0   210.8
5   2/3       56.29   -28.2%      37.88   -26.7%      18.41  -31.2%    32.7 %     51.8   159.2
4   1/27      58.95   -19.3%      35.92   -24.6%      23.04   -9.2%    39.1 %     86.0    52.0
3   1/20      64.03    -7.6%      37.97   -18.1%      26.06   13.5%    40.7 %    161.2   127.6
2   1/13      68.98    -8.8%      41.08   -16.2%      27.90    4.7%    40.4 %    398.5   191.3
1   1/6       61.93   -19.8%      39.96   -23.4%      21.97  -12.4%    35.5 %     71.1    45.6

2017 HMM    4709.40   -13.4%    2821.76   -17.3%    1887.65   -6.8%    40.1%   10508.2 11900.9

Q4   HMM    1423.53   -22.4%     867.51   -23.1%     556.04  -21.3%    39.1%    2496.8  3568.0


52  12/30     81.24   -13.3%      49.95   -15.0%      31.29  -10.3%    38.5 %     49.6    69.1
51  12/23    193.26   -31.2%     117.63   -31.0%      75.63  -31.5%    39.1 %    292.0   299.4
50  12/16    147.11   -32.3%      90.63   -28.4%      56.48  -37.8%    38.4 %    154.9   502.9
49  12/9     118.29   -33.8%      74.56   -30.4%      43.73  -38.8%    37.0 %    303.9   539.1
48  12/2     126.21   -21.2%      78.17   -21.3%      48.04  -21.0%    38.1 %     31.3   233.8
47  11/25    242.10   -13.0%     144.88   -15.7%      97.22   -8.5%    40.2 %    149.9   144.0
46  11/18     72.18   -37.2%      46.53   -27.9%      25.65  -49.1%    35.5 %    117.6   486.6
45  11/11     80.34    -2.3%      46.46   -16.1%      33.89   26.1%    42.2 %    181.1   101.2
44  11/4      68.91   -25.2%      44.56   -22.1%      24.35  -30.3%    35.3 %     81.6   295.6
43  10/28     72.23     0.5%      44.57   -11.7%      27.66   29.1%    38.3 %    339.8   113.9
42  10/21     77.71    -8.9%      43.48   -20.9%      34.23   12.7%    44.0 %    452.3   194.5
41  10/14     66.95   -27.0%      41.76   -27.4%      25.19  -26.4%    37.6 %    164.5   347.7
40  10/7      77.00   -11.6%      44.33   -16.7%      32.68   -3.6%    42.4 %    178.4   240.3

Q3   HMM     971.84    -8.5%     577.81   -15.1%     394.04    3.1%    40.5%    2461.3  2480.5

39  9/30      74.02   -10.5%      42.68   -15.5%      31.35   -2.7%    42.3 %    176.3   286.2
38  9/23      88.62     0.2%      45.32   -11.5%      43.29   16.2%    48.9 %    460.6   158.5
37  9/16      66.52   -34.1%      41.87   -25.9%      24.66  -44.5%    37.1 %    176.7   521.6
36  9/9       66.99   -16.8%      42.78   -21.2%      23.92   -7.6%    35.9 %     94.5   141.9
35  9/2       76.77   -11.5%      44.34   -21.4%      32.43    6.9%    42.2 %     74.9   420.6
34  8/26      89.64    19.2%      44.75   -13.5%      44.89   91.3%    50.1 %    389.7   102.5
33  8/19      69.55    -3.2%      43.98   -12.1%      25.57   17.3%    36.8 %    157.8   128.5
32  8/12      65.32    -0.7%      43.11   -10.1%      22.21   24.4%    34.0 %    108.9     4.2
31  8/5       68.55    -9.0%      44.70   -13.4%      23.85    0.5%    34.8 %     79.3    78.9
30  7/29      75.57    -2.3%      45.15   -10.5%      30.42   13.1%    40.3 %    252.1   145.4
29  7/22      77.90   -19.5%      46.10   -13.2%      31.79  -27.2%    40.8 %    183.8   345.7
28  7/15      87.91     2.1%      49.66   -10.9%      38.25   25.9%    43.5 %    288.9   140.2
27  7/8       64.78   -13.7%      43.37   -14.9%      21.41  -11.3%    33.1 %     17.9     6.4

Q2   HMM    1121.50    -4.9%     637.12   -10.1%     484.35    2.9%    43.2%    3044.2  2989.7

26  7/1       71.44    -9.1%      44.95   -16.4%      26.49    6.7%    37.1 %    117.6   185.8
25  6/24      76.11    -0.6%      46.93    -9.9%      29.18   19.3%    38.3 %     33.4    72.4
24  6/17     105.28     7.5%      55.01   -10.2%      50.27   37.0%    47.7 %    276.5   175.6
23  6/10     108.48     1.2%      52.23   -13.6%      56.26   20.4%    51.9 %    520.6   434.0
22  6/3       72.52     4.1%      45.41   -11.5%      27.10   11.7%    37.4 %    106.2    74.0
21  5/27      81.33   -11.5%      44.57    -9.5%      36.75   55.2%    45.2 %    456.6   140.1
20  5/20      67.70   -11.9%      41.29   -17.0%      26.41   -2.6%    39.0 %     79.7    61.1
19  5/13      76.67   -28.1%      47.03   -16.6%      29.64  -41.0%    38.7 %    115.0   403.7
18  5/6       71.29   -11.5%      45.76   -16.3%      25.33   -1.5%    35.8 %    114.3   112.8
17  4/29      74.86    -3.5%      44.17   -14.1%      30.68   17.4%    41.0 %    181.6   140.5
16  4/22      70.83   -15.1%      43.41   -16.9%      27.41  -12.2%    38.7 %    171.8   225.2
15  4/15     117.63    32.1%      66.62    26.7%      51.01   40.9%    43.4 %    281.6    26.6
14  4/8      127.36   -18.9%      59.74    -6.2%      67.62  -27.6%    53.1 %    589.4   938.0

Q1   HMM    1192.53   -12.3%     739.32   -17.4%     453.22   -2.5%    38.0%    2505.9  2862.7

13  4/1      112.95    24.4%      60.55    -0.2%      52.40   73.8%    46.4 %    344.2   118.2
12  3/25     103.13   -28.7%      59.67   -35.5%      43.46  -16.7%    42.1 %    340.2   433.9
11  3/18      98.33   -12.1%      62.34   -17.5%      35.99   -0.9%    36.6 %    191.2   295.0
10  3/11     121.64    23.2%      67.49    -0.4%      54.15   74.6%    44.5 %    267.7   162.7
9   3/4      107.76     6.5%      63.76    -7.5%      44.00   36.5%    40.8 %    310.3   184.5
8   2/25      93.03   -12.0%      61.94   -12.3%      31.09  -11.3%    33.4 %    143.1   190.7
7   2/18      89.28    -8.3%      58.05   -14.9%      31.23    7.3%    35.0 %    123.5   101.2
6   2/11      92.58   -23.3%      58.63   -25.2%      33.95  -19.8%    36.7 %    210.1   266.0
5   2/4       78.85   -22.1%      51.94   -20.0%      26.91  -25.8%    34.1 %    159.2   123.2
4   1/28      72.94   -25.9%      47.60   -27.1%      25.34  -23.5%    34.7 %     52.1    97.3
3   1/21      69.27   -31.1%      46.31   -26.5%      22.97  -38.9%    33.2 %    127.6   302.3
2   1/14      75.60   -24.5%      48.94   -19.9%      26.66  -31.6%    35.3 %    191.3   449.5
1   1/7       77.17   -12.5%      52.10    -9.6%      25.07  -18.0%    32.5 %     45.6   138.3

2016 HMM    5453.79    -9.0%    3430.39   -13.5%    2023.41   -0.5%    37.1%   11887.0 10533.0

Q4   HMM    1846.85   -13.1%    1136.34   -13.3%     710.53  -12.9%    38.5%    3565.4  3309.2

52  12/31     94.19   -23.2%      59.19   -22.3%      35.01  -24.7%    37.2 %     69.0   109.1
51  12/24    282.55     1.6%     171.74     1.2%     110.81    2.1%    39.2 %    298.5   105.5
50  12/17    218.73   -17.6%     127.64   -19.2%      91.09  -15.3%    41.6 %    502.4   417.4
49  12/10    179.82   -17.0%     108.07   -14.0%      71.75  -21.2%    39.9 %    538.7   532.3
48  12/3     161.58    -3.7%     100.45    -8.4%      61.13    5.1%    37.8 %    233.7    19.6
47  11/2     280.33    -4.3%     173.78    -9.5%     106.55    5.5%    38.0 %    144.0    87.9
46  11/19    116.00    13.5%      65.09    -3.3%      50.91   45.8%    43.9 %    486.6    52.6
45  11/12     82.80   -24.8%      55.69   -20.7%      27.11  -31.9%    32.7 %    101.2   230.8
44  11/5      92.68   -27.5%      57.51   -25.7%      35.18  -30.3%    38.0 %    295.6   420.1
43  10/29     72.35   -29.5%      50.73   -22.6%      21.62  -41.6%    29.9 %    113.6   217.9
42  10/22     85.81   -35.3%      55.20   -19.1%      30.61  -52.4%    35.7 %    194.6   697.4
41  10/15     92.22   -13.7%      57.73    -9.6%      34.49  -19.8%    37.4 %    347.6   290.2
40  10/8      87.79   -11.6%      53.52   -19.2%      34.27    3.8%    39.0 %    240.2   128.4

Q3   HMM    1062.92    -7.8%     680.69   -14.7%     382.21    7.6%    36.0%    2480.1  2303.8

39  10/1      83.38   -28.0%      50.61   -29.4%      32.77  -25.8%    39.3 %    286.0   650.0
38  9/24      88.47    -6.9%      50.51   -18.8%      37.95   15.6%    42.9 %    158.3   185.3
37  9/17     100.88   -18.7%      56.65   -18.7%      44.22  -12.9%    43.8 %    521.4   584.4
36  9/10      80.07     0.1%      54.37    -7.1%      25.70   19.6%    32.1 %    141.9    43.9
35  9/3       86.79    -2.0%      56.56    -7.8%      30.23   11.0%    34.8 %    420.5   163.8
34  8/27      75.45     3.0%      51.95    -5.7%      23.50   29.4%    31.1 %    103.0    27.9
33  8/20      71.78    -5.7%      50.09   -12.0%      21.69   13.2%    30.2 %    128.5     7.8
32  8/13      65.55   -16.8%      47.80   -18.8%      17.75  -10.8%    27.1 %      4.2    67.2
31  8/6       75.00   -18.8%      51.34   -20.4%      23.66  -15.1%    31.5 %     78.9   166.8
30  7/30      77.19   -11.2%      50.45   -16.7%      26.74    1.3%    34.6 %    145.1   182.1
29  7/23      96.62    25.8%      53.10    -5.4%      43.52  110.3%    45.0 %    345.7     3.7
28  7/16      85.82    -6.5%      55.62   -12.8%      30.20    8.0%    35.2 %    140.2   185.9
27  7/9       75.92    -1.5%      51.64   -11.5%      24.28   29.7%    32.0 %      6.4    35.1

Q2   HMM    1188.41     4.3%     716.43    -9.5%     471.98   35.9%    39.7%    2985.4  1764.1

26  7/2       79.30    -1.7%      54.21   -10.4%      25.08   24.6%    31.6 %    185.8   115.1
25  6/25      77.13     0.6%      52.63    -6.9%      24.50   21.5%    31.8 %     72.4     0.1
24  6/18      98.65     1.9%      61.90    -4.9%      36.75   15.7%    37.3 %    175.5   100.5
23  6/11     107.74    19.3%      60.99    -1.2%      46.75   63.7%    43.4 %    431.8   185.5
22  6/4       76.29   -22.2%      51.94   -20.9%      24.35  -24.7%    31.9 %     73.8   309.0
21  5/28      73.60   -12.0%      49.82   -14.9%      23.78   -5.1%    32.3 %    140.1    23.6
20  5/21      77.54   -26.5%      50.34   -25.8%      27.20  -27.9%    35.1 %     61.1   376.0
19  5/14     107.18    23.1%      56.93    -6.0%      50.25   89.4%    46.9 %    403.3    34.5
18  5/7       81.33   -19.5%      55.32   -17.3%      26.02  -23.7%    32.0 %    112.7   251.6
17  4/30      78.19    -1.6%      52.00    -9.3%      26.19   18.3%    33.5 %    140.1    23.6
16  4/23      84.07     4.5%      52.84    -8.3%      31.23   37.0%    37.1 %    224.9    91.7
15  4/16      89.59    17.2%      53.25    -2.1%      36.34   64.8%    40.6 %     26.6    43.1
14  4/9      157.80    90.2%      64.26     9.0%      93.54  289.4%    59.3 %    937.2     7.8

Q1   HMM    1355.61   -14.1%     896.93   -15.7%     458.69  -10.9%    33.8%    2856.1  3156.0

13  4/2       91.71   -39.0%      61.35   -38.2%      30.35  -40.5%    33.1 %    118.1   333.7
12  3/26     145.35     0.1%      93.05     2.4%      52.30   -3.8%    36.0 %    433.8   498.8
11  3/19     112.95     0.7%      76.44    -0.2%      36.52    2.7%    32.3 %    294.4   260.6
10  3/12      99.52   -16.8%      68.43   -15.6%      31.08  -19.3%    31.2 %    162.6   114.5
9   3/5       86.02   -38.5%      60.05   -34.3%      25.97  -46.3%    30.2 %    184.1   350.9
8   2/27     106.70   -29.5%      71.62   -24.7%      35.08  -37.7%    32.9 %    186.8   303.2
7   2/20      98.44   -18.9%      69.29   -15.6%      29.15  -25.9%    29.6 %    101.2   218.7
6   2/13     122.01    -5.6%      79.65   -12.7%      42.36   11.3%    34.7 %    265.7   126.4
5   2/6      102.48   -15.3%      66.32   -21.2%      36.17   -1.7%    35.3 %    123.0   182.6
4   1/30      99.47   -10.2%      66.32   -11.6%      33.15   -7.1%    33.3 %     97.3   192.7
3   1/23     101.43     1.1%      63.96    -7.1%      37.47   19.2%    36.9 %    302.3   273.7
2   1/16     100.71    12.1%      62.20    -4.4%      38.52   55.4%    38.2 %    448.4   201.4
1   1/9       88.82     0.9%      58.25    -8.5%      30.57   25.4%    34.4 %    138.3    98.7

2015 HMM    5982.0   -11.6%    3959.60   -14.9%    2022.43   -4.6%    33.8%   10548.9 10507.6

Q4   HMM    2120.41    -6.6%    1312.11   -14.9%     808.32   11.2%    38.1%    3308.0  3199.3

52  1/2      122.55     1.1%      76.23    -9.2%      46.32   24.1%    37.8 %    109.1   103.7
51  12/26    278.08     5.8%     170.80    -6.4%     107.28   33.3%    38.6 %    105.5     7.1
50  12/19    265.13   -13.5%     159.63   -22.9%     105.50    5.9%    39.8 %    417.3   343.8
49  12/12    215.99   -13.0%     128.33   -20.5%      87.66    1.0%    40.6 %    532.3   410.0
48  12/5     167.01   -17.8%     108.97   -21.9%      58.04   -8.9%    34.8 %     19.5   291.0
47  11/28    292.88   -11.2%     191.68   -15.3%     101.20   -2.3%    34.6 %     87.9   165.5
46  11/21    101.56   -21.3%      66.89   -26.6%      34.68   -8.4%    34.1 %     52.6   324.7
45  11/14    109.57   -20.8%      69.83   -22.8%      39.74  -17.1%    36.3 %    230.6   391.6
44  11/7     127.41    -1.2%      77.03    -7.4%      50.38   10.2%    39.5 %    419.7   408.6
43  10/31    101.99    14.7%      65.10    -2.2%      36.90   65.0%    36.2 %    217.9    65.1
42  10/24    132.34    41.4%      68.00     1.9%      64.34  139.6%    48.6 %    697.0   157.5
41  10/17    106.67    -5.0%      63.65   -12.6%      43.02    9.2%    40.3 %    290.2   347.5
40  10/10     99.23    -6.7%      65.97    -7.0%      33.26   -6.2%    33.5 %    128.4   183.4

Q3   HMM    1147.35   -13.2%     793.83   -15.3%     353.52   -8.1%    30.8%    2299.4  2295.6

39  10/3     115.56     1.4%      71.34    -3.4%      44.22   10.3%    38.3 %    650.1   278.5
38  9/26      94.73    -2.5%      61.87   -11.4%      32.86   20.1%    34.7 %    184.7   156.0
37  9/19     120.04    -0.2%      69.38   -14.0%      50.66   28.0%    42.2 %    582.4   391.7
36  9/12      79.80   -28.5%      58.35   -20.4%      21.45  -44.0%    26.9 %     43.9   285.5
35  9/5       88.23    -0.7%      61.12   -10.2%      27.11   30.7%    30.7 %    163.6    40.0
34  8/29      73.03   -25.3%      54.90   -23.7%      18.12  -29.9%    24.8 %     27.8    66.3
33  8/22      75.79   -26.7%      56.68   -20.0%      19.12  -41.2%    25.2 %      7.8   217.1
32  8/15      78.42   -21.4%      58.56   -19.0%      19.85  -27.6%    25.3 %     67.1    93.1
31  8/8       92.02   -17.7%      64.19   -18.5%      27.83  -15.9%    30.2 %    166.8   283.1
30  8/1       86.59   -14.0%      60.24   -17.8%      26.35   -3.9%    30.4 %    181.8   187.2
29  7/25      76.44   -23.6%      55.78   -24.6%      20.66  -20.7%    27.0 %      3.7   147.7
28  7/18      91.34    -5.5%      63.42    -9.0%      27.93    3.6%    30.6 %    184.7   134.7
27  7/11      75.36    -5.9%      58.00    -4.7%      17.36   -9.7%    23.0 %     34.9    14.6

Q2   HMM     1136.2   -17.9%     789.33   -18.0%     346.83  -17.5%    30.5%    1763.1  1836.5

26  7/4       80.04   -10.1%      59.99    -9.6%      20.05  -11.6%    25.0 %    115.1     4.7
25  6/27      76.22   -21.3%      56.18   -16.9%      20.04  -31.5%    26.3 %      0.1   121.6
24  6/20      96.47   -18.9%      64.82   -15.8%      31.65  -24.5%    32.8 %    100.5   317.6
23  6/13      90.01   -21.9%      61.54   -19.8%      28.47  -26.0%    31.6 %    185.5   145.4
22  6/6       97.72   -12.0%      65.23   -11.7%      32.49  -12.6%    33.2 %    308.9   243.4
21  5/30      83.37     0.7%      58.42    -3.7%      24.95   12.7%    29.9 %     23.6    23.6
20  5/23     105.56    18.2%      67.81     6.1%      37.74   48.8%    35.8 %    375.9   189.1
19  5/16      86.81     2.2%      60.42    -2.7%      26.39   15.3%    30.4 %     34.3    72.1
18  5/9      100.88    10.2%      66.77    -0.7%      34.11   40.2%    33.8 %    251.6     5.7
17  5/2       79.35   -10.8%      57.24   -12.2%      22.11   -6.8%    27.9 %    225.1    51.6
16  4/25      80.42   -10.4%      57.62   -11.9%      22.80   -6.5%    28.4 %     91.6     0.1
15  4/18      76.44   -56.7%      54.38   -55.8%      22.06  -58.7%    28.9 %     43.1   296.7
14  4/11      82.89   -44.1%      58.91   -37.0%      23.97  -56.2%    28.9 %      7.8   365.0

Q1   HMM    1578.06   -12.1%    1064.33   -11.9%     513.76  -12.4%    32.6%    3178.4  3176.1

13  4/4      150.33    10.2%      99.28     9.4%      51.05   11.8%    34.0 %    332.0   165.9
12  3/28     145.19    -3.0%      90.83    -9.0%      54.36    9.1%    37.4 %    498.8   187.9
11  3/21     112.10   -53.7%      76.52   -45.3%      35.58  -65.1%    31.7 %    260.4   643.5
10  3/14     119.66   -11.6%      81.16   -13.1%      38.50   -8.3%    32.2 %    113.4    66.6
9   3/7      139.83    -1.7%      91.54   -14.1%      48.29  -18.6%    34.5 %    350.9   490.2
8   2/28     151.40    -2.6%      95.11    -3.3%      56.32   -1.4%    37.2 %    303.3   506.5
7   2/21     120.65    -5.2%      82.04    -7.6%      38.61    0.3%    32.0 %    216.5     0.2
6   2/14     129.22   -17.1%      91.16   -18.0%      38.06  -12.9%    29.5 %    126.3   162.8
5   2/7      120.93     3.2%      84.14    -0.7%      36.79   13.4%    30.4 %    184.4   147.1
4   1/31     110.66     0.4%      75.00    -3.0%      35.67    8.3%    32.2 %    192.8   319.5
3   1/24     100.24     4.2%      68.82    -1.4%      31.43   18.8%    31.4 %    273.7   196.0
2   1/17      89.84   -15.3%      65.07   -14.6%      24.76  -17.2%    27.6 %    201.2   261.7
1   1/10      87.99   -10.9%      63.66   -11.4%      24.34   -9.5%    27.7 %    124.8    28.2

2014 HMM    6783.24   -10.1%    4661.69   -11.0%    2121.58   -7.9%    31.3%   10450.6 10589.2

Q4   HMM    2267.71   -14.1%    1540.94   -13.0%     726.79  -16.4%    32.0%    3157.4  3445.0
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The worst week loss for Blu-ray was the week Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom came out? The only way that makes sense is if the same week last year had a huge release.
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The collapse in DVD sales has been swift. Seemingly everyone in the DVD market has transitioned straight to streaming/VOD.
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The worst week loss for Blu-ray was the week Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom came out? The only way that makes sense is if the same week last year had a huge release.
Jurassic World 2 was released 9/18/18. The biggest release the same time last year (9/17/17) was Wonder Woman.

So, yeah, pretty big.
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Target's are now starting to re-organize for Christmas. Apparently they are reducing books and some physical media to make room for additional aisles of toys (Probably because of no TRU).
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I got an ad in the mail from Best Buy that mostly promotes toys as well- very strange. Several Best Buys here are right next to (former) Toys R Us stores.

Incidentally, a store in the UK has said they're going to STOP selling DVD players, but will keep selling Blu-Ray players so no big loss:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...D-players.html (typical misinformation in this article including how streaming has made any type of physical media player obsolete)
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...D-players.html (typical misinformation in this article including how streaming has made any type of physical media player obsolete)
Everything in that article seemed accurate to me, as it just states that streaming has reduced the demand for physical media in both the home video and music industry. What was misinformation? Or is it just more of your bullshit because you don't care for streaming yourself?
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Yeah, I like owning my favorites and all, but the ease and convenience of picking movies and TV shows from a menu is definitely a huge draw for me.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee View Post
I got an ad in the mail from Best Buy that mostly promotes toys as well- very strange. Several Best Buys here are right next to (former) Toys R Us stores.

Incidentally, a store in the UK has said they're going to STOP selling DVD players, but will keep selling Blu-Ray players so no big loss:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...D-players.html (typical misinformation in this article including how streaming has made any type of physical media player obsolete)
A lot of retail stores are filling the Toys R US void this year. Best Buy has always had a decent toy section with superheroes and such. They've also recently expanded as my son gets his hot wheels from them (usually with a decent discount). Same with GameStop.

My Target is in the process of eliminating Music/some books and a row of movies for more toys. Kinda hard to tell until they are done since they could pack the movies tighter.
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Yeah, I like owning my favorites and all, but the ease and convenience of picking movies and TV shows from a menu is definitely a huge draw for me.
You could spend the time (a lot of time...) and rip them all to a server and simply stream them. Might not be doable for 4k and such, but I've done it for all my DVDs and TV on DVD. Its nice to watch them anywhere with an internet connection as quality is already meh on DVDs. Space isn't really an issue for DVDs. Blu-rays I can get around 4-5GB and they look pretty good to me. I don't care about audio so that might be a concern.
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