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Old 03-23-16, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bruceames
I'm sure it will have legs. But 'Frozen' legs? Not so sure.
I really can't say if it will be a phenomenon like Frozen was. Personally, I haven't seen it yet, and have no strong desire to. For me, SW ended in 1983.
Old 03-23-16, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
I really can't say if it will be a phenomenon like Frozen was. Personally, I haven't seen it yet, and have no strong desire to. For me, SW ended in 1983.
I haven't seen it either. Don't plan to until it comes out on UHD.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
No 3D Force Awakens + no original versions of the other movies = no sale for me!

People are STILL buying laserdisc players just to get the original versions of the first 3 movies, which seem to be easier to find than those half-assed DVDs that were out a while ago.
Hey Alan, I'm a fan of 3D too. Probably have over 100 3D movies and have had a 'rule' that I never buy the 2D version if there's a 3D version available anywhere in the world (such as Planes 2 or Frozen).

However since watching movies HDR I'm seeing that I prefer it over 3D. Who knows, maybe you will too.
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Originally Posted by bruceames
I'm sure it will have legs. But 'Frozen' legs? Not so sure. I agree it will certainly boost the SW box sets sales though. Which will be good for revenue since those are pretty pricey. Will be interesting to see if this outsells Frozen for same year sales (from release through December).
I'm not so sure either that Star Wars will repeat the Frozen phenomenon. That became a social thing where every parent of a young daughter was forced at gunpoint to buy it.

Those only come around once or twice a decade.
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I think this will come close, as unlike Frozen, kids and parents are both into it enough to buy.
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However since watching movies HDR I'm seeing that I prefer it over 3D. Who knows, maybe you will too.
Why can't we have BOTH 3D AND HDR?
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Why can't we have BOTH 3D AND HDR?
There is no 4K 3D content theatrically, and there is no 4K 3D even planned for the new format at this point.

It may change, but for now, it's not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by fitprod
There is no 4K 3D content theatrically, and there is no 4K 3D even planned for the new format at this point.
I think he's asking about 1080p/2K 3D HDR, which as far as I know isn't part of the spec either.
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At least there's 4K players coming out that support 3D. As long as they keep something going with 3D, I'm fine with that. Doesn't need to be 4K just yet, give that several years.
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This is anecdotal but during my brief chat with a magnolia salesperson on Tuesday I brought up the subject of 4K. He is the only guy I've run into who actually knows his stuff. He is as big a home theater buff as they come and he believes digital has already superseded 4K. He sees little to no interest in the new format. My Best Buy's media department continues its shrinking act even though they added a small section of 4K titles.

And in another stark reminder of package media's impending demise was a trip to Barnes and Noble which is next door. It is obvious that they are reducing inventory for both DVD and Blu-ray. The racks that typically held 6-8 titles deep per tier had one or two on the display. The Criterion blu-rays that enjoyed their own section are now muddled in with the DVDs. This location was always a reliable source for rare, hard-to-find titles (I picked up "Shane" this past Tuesday). But next time I visit I fear the space devoted to packaged media will be minimal. The march to digital continues.
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The 3 B&N's near me are the same size as during the heyday of blu and DVD. And Best Buy still has 8 aisles devoted to physical media. And that mix of DVD and blu together has been that way for a couple of years at least. The march is very slow in some places, but it won't take over completely.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
The 3 B&N's near me are the same size as during the heyday of blu and DVD. And Best Buy still has 8 aisles devoted to physical media. And that mix of DVD and blu together has been that way for a couple of years at least. The march is very slow in some places, but it won't take over completely.
I'm gonna try to take pictures this week before they reset that section of the store. This may be something that is rolling out slowly. There is another Barnes and Noble near the neighborhood mall that has virtually no media section. They just carry a handful of newer titles—that's it. I think one can only be blind to not see what is happening. These stores would not be removing product that actually sells. They have come to the conclusion that the space devoted to media could be used to sell product with higher margins and sell-through.

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Why can't we have BOTH 3D AND HDR?
High dynamic range simply won't work well using polarized 3D glasses. You're cutting off half the brightness right from the start and HDR needs that greater range of lighting that is limited by the glasses. So in essence they are opposing forces. I don't see 3D ever being adopted in UHD BD until they come up with glasses-free 3D TV that works well.
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The media sections at Barnes and Noble have always had to carry their own weight. The chain is nearing the point where it's waiting to go under. That has led to them cutting back on media on locations where it simply doesn't sell. I don't think it's a chain-wide trend...yet.

I do think B&N has benefited from other retail chains abandoning media. They are practically the last resort in the brick and mortar arena to get catalog music and movies.
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
The media sections at Barnes and Noble have always had to carry their own weight. The chain is nearing the point where it's waiting to go under. That has led to them cutting back on media on locations where it simply doesn't sell. I don't think it's a chain-wide trend...yet.

I do think B&N has benefited from other retail chains abandoning media. They are practically the last resort in the brick and mortar arena to get catalog music and movies.
Yes, and it's such a bummer....we are running out of fun places to kill an afternoon. Ironically, they expanded the LP section! Go figure.
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Barnes and Noble is the last store in my area that actually prices things at full list price.
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The couple B&Ns that I go to still have the same-sized media area. There aren't many customers in it so I'm not sure why, but they have quite a bit of inventory. I bought Criterions there in a recent sale, and that was the first time I remember buying media there in a long time.

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I'm not so sure either that Star Wars will repeat the Frozen phenomenon. That became a social thing where every parent of a young daughter was forced at gunpoint to buy it.


Of course, I shouldn't be laughing since I have two daughters and bought both the early digital release and the BD combo.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Barnes and Noble is the last store in my area that actually prices things at full list price.
They've been discounting things more in the past year, especially their value bins and new releases. With coupons usually available, their prices have gotten a lot fairer.
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Of course, I shouldn't be laughing since I have two daughters and bought both the early digital release and the BD combo.
I'll one up you, I got the digital release, US blu release, and UK 3D release. Sucks cause I'm not a huge fan of it, but if the kids are, then we are. And Frozen sure as hell got enough of my $.
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If you guys didn't also get the Sing-a-long version, you're not true fans.
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Originally Posted by AaronSch
Yes, and it's such a bummer....we are running out of fun places to kill an afternoon.
For the most part. I hardly go out these days other than for work related stuff, largely due to a lack of interesting places to check out.

The type of places I use to frequent back in the day, are mostly gone nowadays. (ie. Bookstores, video stores, record stores, arcades, live music nightclubs, etc ...). Even checking out my old stomping grounds (from other cities I use to live in) on google maps streetview, most of these places don't exist today.

If I was 20+ years younger, I don't know what I would do on a night on the town these days.
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Originally Posted by slop101
I like this tangent and would like to contribute, and because I want to see further discussion on this tangent, maybe we should move these posts over to a new thread in Other so more people can chime in as well?
Made a new thread on "Other".

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/...ff-thread.html

Hopefully the mods will move the followup posts on this thread, to the spin off thread. (ie. Posts 3623 to 3626 from this thread).
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Hopefully the mods will move the followup posts on this thread, to the spin off thread. (ie. Posts 3623 to 3626 from this thread).
Done. Because threads are chronological, the posts moved from here will be first on the list, though.
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