Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder
#3451
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Depending on how UHD-Blu-ray pans out, regular Blu-ray could quickly find itself as the middle-of-the-road format; too good for the DVD regulars and too inferior for the cinephiles and completely useless for the streamers/downloaders.
We are already seeing some titles appearing only on DVD and download, no BR.
We are already seeing some titles appearing only on DVD and download, no BR.
I just don't see UHD catching on. Blu-ray is still a niche format that is seeing its presence at places like Walmart and Target shrinking.
#3453
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
2016 should be a good year for media with the new Star Wars hitting home video. No one is deluded enough to think Blu-ray will grow going forward, it is a mature market. What owners should hope is a slow, gentle decline in sales.
I actually believe the continuing proliferation of independent streaming services from a variety of different providers will slow that streaming train down a bit. Content is getting locked up to each service and consumers will have to subscribe to 5-10 different providers for all the content they want. People are already starting to make tough choices in that market.
UHD won't be more than a drop in the bucket for several years, if it does anything at all.
I actually believe the continuing proliferation of independent streaming services from a variety of different providers will slow that streaming train down a bit. Content is getting locked up to each service and consumers will have to subscribe to 5-10 different providers for all the content they want. People are already starting to make tough choices in that market.
UHD won't be more than a drop in the bucket for several years, if it does anything at all.
#3454
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
If it's any consolation, I was reading that e-books and readers are down 10% over last year as consumers were reverting back to traditional books.
#3455
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I actually believe the continuing proliferation of independent streaming services from a variety of different providers will slow that streaming train down a bit. Content is getting locked up to each service and consumers will have to subscribe to 5-10 different providers for all the content they want. People are already starting to make tough choices in that market.
I just got sick and tired of going through multiple subscriptions.
#3456
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
2016 should be a good year for media with the new Star Wars hitting home video. No one is deluded enough to think Blu-ray will grow going forward, it is a mature market. What owners should hope is a slow, gentle decline in sales.
I actually believe the continuing proliferation of independent streaming services from a variety of different providers will slow that streaming train down a bit. Content is getting locked up to each service and consumers will have to subscribe to 5-10 different providers for all the content they want. People are already starting to make tough choices in that market.
UHD won't be more than a drop in the bucket for several years, if it does anything at all.
I actually believe the continuing proliferation of independent streaming services from a variety of different providers will slow that streaming train down a bit. Content is getting locked up to each service and consumers will have to subscribe to 5-10 different providers for all the content they want. People are already starting to make tough choices in that market.
UHD won't be more than a drop in the bucket for several years, if it does anything at all.
So yea completely in agreement that blu won't grow but do think it will maintain.
#3457
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Has there been a corresponding increase in traditional books? I could certainly see people dumping their dedicated e-readers for tablets despite the latter's disadvantages (screen, weight, battery) for that particular function.
#3458
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I've been "buying" used books lately through Amazon, often for 1 cent + shipping. Maybe books have been devalued as a result of competition from ebooks (much like DVD and BD), to the point where the pendulum is starting to swing the other way? I don't know if it means more sales for books, but it certainly would affect ebook sales if they're busy reading regular books they can get for almost nothing. Convenience rules for consumers, but only when price doesn't get in the way.
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
#3462
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
It finally appears the streaming revolution is seriously affecting DVD sales. 23% YOY revenue drops for a busy Christmas shopping week in what has been described as a good Christmas season for consumer spending is fairly damning for DVD.
#3463
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
On the other hand for stuff that isn't widely released, things seem to be more of a mixed bag.
For example, an extreme case of this is college level textbooks. Used copies of current editions can still fetch some coin, while older (but not TOO old) previous editions are largely penny fodder.
#3464
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
#3466
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Blu-ray actually finished the year fairly strongly considering the tailwinds against it. DVD's sales are starting to show serious attrition.
#3467
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Depending on who you believe, some say that Jurassic World sold a ton on Blu-Ray but didn't sell very many on "digital", despite getting an early digital release. I haven't seen the numbers, but I'd be very happy if that were true.
#3468
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
It will be very interesting to see how 2016 unfolds considering that minor release coming out in April.
#3470
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Hopefully this is more than just Alan Smithee's "idle fantasies".
#3471
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I, too, hope this is true. I just don't understand the attraction of digital "ownership" over physical. Sure, go that route for rentals but to *purchase*? Absolutely not.
#3472
DVD Talk Legend
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Digital ownership is an oxymoron in most cases IMO. Unless you have the content DRM-free and downloaded to a local asset which is not subject to network outages, license revocation, permission issues, etc., you don't own anything when you "buy" the digital version.
#3473
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I think this is the first time in history where we will see four major formats all competing for market share.
DVD
Blu-ray
UHD-Blu-ray
downloading/streaming
I guess the last time that happened was the early-mid 1980s where we had VHS, Betamax with CED and Laserdisc to a smaller extent.
DVD
Blu-ray
UHD-Blu-ray
downloading/streaming
I guess the last time that happened was the early-mid 1980s where we had VHS, Betamax with CED and Laserdisc to a smaller extent.
#3474
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
They really need to give regular DVD the boot at this point. VHS was finally put out to pasture when HD-DVD and Blu-Ray came out. You can't buy a new standard-def-only TV anymore, so why keep putting out a standard-def format?
#3475
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
DVD still outsells blu-ray by a significant margin. It isn't going anywhere.