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11-23-15, 01:43 PM
#3952
re: Star Wars
Apparently the new Star Wars clip show playing at Disneyland uses blu-ray footage, however the clip of Vader throwing the Emperor removes the "Nooooo!" dialogue. This has at least one person speculating that "Lucasfilm is currently sitting on a yet fifth edit of these films that maintains the bulk of Lucas’ changes while dialing back some of the more contentious alterations".
Just a rumour, but in the absence of theatrical versions, I wouldn't be upset if they did this.
Just a rumour, but in the absence of theatrical versions, I wouldn't be upset if they did this.
11-23-15, 01:59 PM
#3953
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re: Star Wars
Apparently the new Star Wars clip show playing at Disneyland uses blu-ray footage, however the clip of Vader throwing the Emperor removes the "Nooooo!" dialogue. This has at least one person speculating that "Lucasfilm is currently sitting on a yet fifth edit of these films that maintains the bulk of Lucas’ changes while dialing back some of the more contentious alterations".
Just a rumour, but in the absence of theatrical versions, I wouldn't be upset if they did this.
Just a rumour, but in the absence of theatrical versions, I wouldn't be upset if they did this.
11-23-15, 02:22 PM
#3954
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re: Star Wars
How do they know it's playing Blu-ray footage rather than the previous edit? Or even using the prints created for the theatrical release of the SE's? Just curious.
Personally I would prefer they gave us the OOT with as few changes as possible (cleanups and the like). Not some new edit that combines some of the new with the old.
Personally I would prefer they gave us the OOT with as few changes as possible (cleanups and the like). Not some new edit that combines some of the new with the old.
11-23-15, 03:04 PM
#3955
re: Star Wars
How do they know it's playing Blu-ray footage rather than the previous edit? Or even using the prints created for the theatrical release of the SE's? Just curious.
Personally I would prefer they gave us the OOT with as few changes as possible (cleanups and the like). Not some new edit that combines some of the new with the old.
Personally I would prefer they gave us the OOT with as few changes as possible (cleanups and the like). Not some new edit that combines some of the new with the old.
I'd like to see a release of the theatrical prints for those who want them. I'd also like a version with the cleaned up effects, but without things like Greedo shooting first. For all of the bad changes, I really do appreciate things like eliminating matte lines.
It would be hard, admittedly, to come up with a version that pleases everyone. I like the new ending for ROTJ, but the dance number in Jabba's is cheap. Some of the death star battle in ANH looks great, but it clashes with the old footage.
11-23-15, 04:15 PM
#3956
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They could have seen a scene that obviously is not part of the OOT. But the source Disney for the montage source could be anything since the SE's were first created, all not but the BD not having the "Noooooo..." added.
12-09-15, 04:15 PM
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Can the blu-ray discs of the US 2015 edition of Star Wars: The Complete Saga (with Darth Vader striding on the cover) play in region B/2 Europe?
The product details for the US 2011 edition says Region Free, but for the US 2015 edition it says Region A/1.
Still, one can not be sure, if they are essentially the same discs. Does the US 2015 edition have Swedish subtitles? If so, that might be an indication that the discs also play in region B/2.
The product details for the US 2011 edition says Region Free, but for the US 2015 edition it says Region A/1.
Still, one can not be sure, if they are essentially the same discs. Does the US 2015 edition have Swedish subtitles? If so, that might be an indication that the discs also play in region B/2.
12-09-15, 04:39 PM
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http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-W.../#RegionCoding
However, this review indicates that it's the exact same discs as in the 2011 set:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-W...7/#UserReviews
Well, shame on me for not doing my homework. I purchased this edition thinking it was an updated version of the complete saga previously released in 2011. Imagine my surprise when I compared this edition with the 2011 I already own on Blu-ray! Every detail; the disk's colors, the contents, the content's order etc. are the same. The disks even have the 2011 year printed on them. The additional features, all three disks, contain the exact same features in the exact same order!
If you own the 2011 Blu-ray edition of "The Complete Saga", then save your hard-earned money. There's nothing new here at all other than the package itself.
If you own the 2011 Blu-ray edition of "The Complete Saga", then save your hard-earned money. There's nothing new here at all other than the package itself.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...ostcount=55809
Another place to check for the "actual" region coding is this site, although in this instance it doesn't separate out the 2011 and 2015 sets:
http://bluray.liesinc.net/
12-09-15, 05:43 PM
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Thanks a lot Jay! You are marvellous.
I suppose that even though the contents are identical, they still may have changed the Region Free coding to A/1 for marketing purposes (there are B/2 versions sold in Europe. However the covers are somewhat clotted with region information symbols, so I prefer the US edition). Not sure if that would mean lots of extra work for them to re-code.
Still, since the discs look identical and even still have 2011 printed on them, it sounds likely that they haven't done anything at all to them. I guess I may be rather safe in purchasing this for my B/2 player.
I suppose that even though the contents are identical, they still may have changed the Region Free coding to A/1 for marketing purposes (there are B/2 versions sold in Europe. However the covers are somewhat clotted with region information symbols, so I prefer the US edition). Not sure if that would mean lots of extra work for them to re-code.
Still, since the discs look identical and even still have 2011 printed on them, it sounds likely that they haven't done anything at all to them. I guess I may be rather safe in purchasing this for my B/2 player.
12-09-15, 09:37 PM
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re: Star Wars
Thanks a lot Jay! You are marvellous.
I suppose that even though the contents are identical, they still may have changed the Region Free coding to A/1 for marketing purposes (there are B/2 versions sold in Europe. However the covers are somewhat clotted with region information symbols, so I prefer the US edition). Not sure if that would mean lots of extra work for them to re-code.
Still, since the discs look identical and even still have 2011 printed on them, it sounds likely that they haven't done anything at all to them. I guess I may be rather safe in purchasing this for my B/2 player.
I suppose that even though the contents are identical, they still may have changed the Region Free coding to A/1 for marketing purposes (there are B/2 versions sold in Europe. However the covers are somewhat clotted with region information symbols, so I prefer the US edition). Not sure if that would mean lots of extra work for them to re-code.
Still, since the discs look identical and even still have 2011 printed on them, it sounds likely that they haven't done anything at all to them. I guess I may be rather safe in purchasing this for my B/2 player.
Also, the packaging often misstates the region coding for Blu-rays, hence the sites I mentioned.
Why are you buying the US release though? My Understanding is the Europe, or at least the UK, got the same packaging.
Edit: And if I had read your post better, I would've seen you answered my question: because of the ratings plastered on the front of the European version.
12-10-15, 12:17 AM
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re: Star Wars
Who spends that kinda money (a lot for a set) without checking it out first? I saw it came out and owning the first set I went on the Internet to see if there were any differences and there weren't other than cooler packaging. But that's on them for not checking.
12-10-15, 05:35 AM
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12-21-15, 03:56 PM
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http://screencrush.com/star-wars-lim...lbook-blu-ray/
Ep 1: Darth Maul
Ep 2: Yoda
Ep 3: General Grievous
Ep 4: Darth Vader
Ep 5: Storm Trooper
Ep 6: Emperor Palpatine
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12-21-15, 06:08 PM
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re: Star Wars
I have to admit I have all the Star Wars movies...but none are on Blu-Ray. I still even have the Box Set of the first three on VHS. I got the DVD THX Remastered Set and have the Phantom Menaced, Attack of Clones and Revenge of the Sith on DVD Widescreen.
Can someone tell me why the heck is the DVD versions going for high $$$$ and are the latest Steelbooks are worth it?
Can someone tell me why the heck is the DVD versions going for high $$$$ and are the latest Steelbooks are worth it?
12-21-15, 06:34 PM
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re: Star Wars
and are the latest Steelbooks are worth it?
1) it comes in a nice compact case
2) it has three discs of extra content
3) those Steelbooks are hideous
12-21-15, 07:19 PM
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The Star Wars brand is a license to print money. Look at Episode VII. Even if it wasn't good, the pre-sale tickets alone were record-breaking. People will show up for Star Wars products sight unseen.
12-21-15, 08:36 PM
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12-21-15, 11:16 PM
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I acquired the Despecialized Editions of IV-VI and watched them recently. Really reminds you how well those films work without anything added. I've got the DVD editions of the SEs but never bought the BDs because of even more changes. That "Nooooo!" in the throne room scene of RotJ killed it for me. Ruins the emotional impact of that moment. I'm hoping the originals will come out one day - they've got to, Disney loves money, they'll work out a deal - but until then these 720p/DTS 5.1 fan edits are a great alternative.
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12-22-15, 06:53 AM
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re: Star Wars
Ep 1: Darth Maul
Ep 2: Clone Trooper
Ep 3: General Grievous
Ep 4: Darth Vader
Ep 5: Boba Fett
Ep 6: Emperor Palpatine
Hero Steelbooks:
Ep 1: Padme
Ep 2: Anakin Skywalker
Ep 3: Obi-Wan Kenobi
Ep 4: Luke Skywalker
Ep 5: Yoda
Ep 6: Han Solo
12-22-15, 07:22 AM
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