hanshotfirst1138

Everything I know about, excluding the recent steelbooks with the UV codes.

Mabuse

I want to go on record that that guy's theories are complete shit, I award him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.

The similarity between Jedi and The Phantom Menace is not the result of some fabulously brilliant cyclical "ring" construct but rather a product of the sequence the films were made in. There was a 16 year hiatus but the fact remains that when Lucas rolled on TPM the last Star Wars thing he'd done was Jedi. The similarity of their construction is a by product of his choice to make a monotonous continuation of a tired premise instead of moving in some new direction.

Furthermore, being able to recognize (or fabricate) a complex "ring"-like structure to the 6 film saga does not alter the fact that the prequel films themselves contain lagging narrative trajectory, ill defined characterization, and excessive dialogue and exposition. A complex construction alone does not make something great.

Supermallet

The guy doesn't say that the prequels are flawless or masterpieces. He says that this construction is deliberate and brilliant in its own right, regardless of the quality of the rest of the film. Now, you can say that the construction is not enough to redeem the prequels, and that's fine. But all he's arguing for here is the construction. And I do think there's enough evidence here that I buy it. If it were just Jedi and TPM, you might be right (although honestly I find your premise far more shaky than the author of that article's), but the inversions in Clones and Sith seem more than just coincidence to me.

Hey, maybe it's the 9/11 truther version of a Star Wars theory, but I found it compelling and I've since rewatched TPM and found it much more enjoyable (not good, but enjoyable) watching it with this theory in mind.

hasslein

Thanks for providing the link. I found it fascinating. I've never had the disdain for the prequels that most have, but maybe it will bring some respect.

I don't see the yin yang in this AOC shot, is the actual symbol there, or is the author just referring to the dark and the light? I'm guessing its the rough circle in middle with dot of clouds.

hdnmickey

The article doesn't really cover anything new. People have been pointing out the connections as each movie was released, and then again when the complete saga box set was released. I think most people acknowledge how well that aspect was done. What still holds true is that there was so much focus on those aspects, that what made the OT movies and characters fun and enjoyable, was lost or ignored in the PT. Case in point... how much enjoyable each scene with R2D2 and C3PO are in the OT vs. being lame or eye roll worthy in the PT.

Supermallet

I don't think it's any surprise that there are connections between the films, but the particular structure employed was not something I've seen anyone comment on or even hint at before.

Timber

"“there’s a hint of how Obi-Wan had learned to give up his physical being and become one with the Force [in A New Hope].” 6 So, the scene also connects to the end of the ring by helping to explain how Anakin becomes one with the Force and appears as a “Force ghost” at the conclusion of Jedi (presumably, he learns the path to immortality from Obi-Wan, Yoda, and/or Qui-Gon)."

He lost me there. How would Anakin learn it from Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan was just about to start down the path of learning it himself?

milo bloom

Obi Wan learned it while in seclusion on Tattooine, Yoda on Degobah. As for Anakin's force ghost at the end of ROTJ, the idea is that both Yoda and Obi Wan were able to help Anakin crossover.

Jay G.

Yeah, so Anakin didn't learn the technique himself at any point.

The idea that it was a technique that had to be learned is an invention of the prequel series in any case. When watching the original films, it just seemed like something that happened to Jedi when they died.

Mike86

Yeah in the Original Trilogy I always saw it as just being a Force ghost is just what happens to Jedi in the afterlife. I don't think it really needed explanation as to them needing to learn how to achieve being a Force ghost after they passed.

hanshotfirst1138

Exactly what The Force can or can't do has always been fairly nebulous.

E Unit

We definitely need a lot more dialogue about midichlorians. I think that will make any Star Wars movie better...

lamphorn

When I lurk on these forums I feel like a Force ghost.

Bluelitespecial

I saw the steelbooks in target last night, and they do look very nice. But I am curious if the 20th century fox opening has been removed for the blurays.

rocket1312

It's still Fox putting out these blu-rays, so no.

GoldenJCJ

Perhaps he's in the shitter "taking the piss", which he seems to do an awful lot these days.

hanshotfirst1138

Well, apparently the X-Men: Apocalypse trailer will be attached to The Force Awakens, so maybe Disney and Fox are making nice? I can dream.

lamphorn

But seriously, seeing this new movie without the 20th Cent Fox logo and the Tinkerbell flying around Cinderella's Castle in Disney World logo will just feel... off.

Obi-Wanma

I could be wrong, but I don't think we'll get a Disney Logo, just the Lucasfilm logo. We don't get Disney logos in front of Marvel films.

That's what they have on the digital releases of the PT and V and VI, if that's any indication.

Shannon Nutt

There's a rumor going around that we won't be getting an Episode number in the opening crawl either - but I doubt that's true.

hdnmickey

I agree, Lucasfilm will probably be the only logo shown as part of The Force Awakens.

Turns out the steelbooks have a part of the standard poster art on the back and cool custom inside art. If I didn't already have the complete saga set I would be tempted to pick up the steels once they went on clearance.

bluetoast

It hasn't been called Episode VII in any of the marketing, so it's quite possible.

dom56

Maybe Disney will have TIE fighters and X-Wing fighters flying around the castle.

Texan26

It was already mentioned last month that there will be no Disney logo before the Force Awakens.

http://screencrush.com/no-disney-log...force-awakens/

Josh-da-man

All of the Star Wars toys are prominently branded with the Disney logo, while the Marvel toys aren't. Hard to tell what we'll get.