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UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

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UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Already mentioned by Mr. Cinema here, but this news certainly deserves it's own thread. From this thread on the Blu-ray.com forums (11 posts down):
Originally Posted by Penton-Man
In my quick search of the News section, I don’t think “Juan” has provided any recent news about Apocalypse Now Redux.

Given that, I’d like to throw out a bit of good news to fans of the film. It is currently undergoing a new HD master from a new scan of the available film element. Watch for the remastered product in the future on Blu-ray.
Let the arguments over OAR (re)commence!

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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Just like Lawerence of Arabia they promised in 2006/7 that was coming soon? Lol. I'll wait for a real release besides speculation from people who have been wrong before.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Originally Posted by NoirFan View Post
Already mentioned by Mr. Cinema here, but this news certainly deserves it's own thread. From this thread on the Blu-ray.com forums (11 posts down):

Let the arguments over OAR (re)commence!
What arguments of OAR?

EDIT: So the DP chopped the sides for a 2:1 aspect ratio or opened the mattes (assuming this was shot on Super 35)?

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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post
What arguments of OAR?

EDIT: So the DP chopped the sides for a 2:1 aspect ratio or opened the mattes (assuming this was shot on Super 35)?
Cropped the sides from 2.35:1 to 2:1 so picture information is missing on the left and right of the frame.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post
What arguments of OAR?

EDIT: So the DP chopped the sides for a 2:1 aspect ratio or opened the mattes (assuming this was shot on Super 35)?
It was shot anamorphic. The sides are chopped off for 2:1. Edit: what he said.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

I'm cautious about this....This is my Fav Coppola film...I seriously hope he doesn't fuck it up.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

I'm not interested in the Redux anyway. The added scenes ruin the momentum of the film.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Only Redux? Seems silly to do just one version, especially the less famous version fewer people have watched. Either way, if it's not OAR, then I can wait. I picked up the Dossier packaging for cheap a few years ago.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Originally Posted by emachine12 View Post
Cropped the sides from 2.35:1 to 2:1 so picture information is missing on the left and right of the frame.
Originally Posted by Drexl View Post
It was shot anamorphic. The sides are chopped off for 2:1. Edit: what he said.
Why would he do something so stupid? And why would Coppola allow it?
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Originally Posted by RocShemp View Post
Why would he do something so stupid.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005886/bio
He created the "Univision" film system, which is a 35mm format based on film stock with three perforation that provides an aspect ratio of 2:1, which Storaro feels is a good compromise between the 2.35:1 and 1.85:1 wide-screen ratios favored by most filmmakers. Storaro developed the new technology with the intention of 2:1 becoming the universal aspect ratio for both movies and television in the digital age. He first shot the television mini-series "Dune" with the Univision system.


And why would Coppola allow it?
Apparently the man who had balls enough to make Apocalyspe Now in the first place is too wimpy to stand up to his former DP.

Or maybe Coppola is like Lucas and Spielberg and doesn't think a little retrofit to a masterpiece is such a bad idea.

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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

oh...wait..I got all happy and failed to see that it's just Redux...oh wtf?! Give us both, damnit.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet View Post
I'm not interested in the Redux anyway. The added scenes ruin the momentum of the film.
My thoughts exactly! Redux = NO SALE
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I will be very disappointed if the original, and IMO, superior cut is not available on the BD. The recently released Lionsgate DVD is Redux only, so I am concerned.

Coppola is not the only director to sign off on Storaro's alteration of aspect ratios of films he photographed, witness Bertolucci and The Last Emperor (likewise altered from scope to 2:1 on current releases).

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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Apocalypse Now remains one of my all time favorite movies. While I do enjoy the additional footage Redux brings, I hope they release something similar to the Dossier.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

There's no way they'd ignore the original cut - I'm sure they'd make it available via seamless-branching.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

Originally Posted by slop101 View Post
There's no way they'd ignore the original cut - I'm sure they'd make it available via seamless-branching.
I dunno man...Coppola's been weird lately. I do also think the Theatrical is the superior BUT I do like the Redux as well...it's interesting...
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC View Post
I dunno man...Coppola's been weird lately. I do also think the Theatrical is the superior BUT I do like the Redux as well...it's interesting...
I agree... what filmmaker turns his library over to Lionsgate....after being at Paramount. He has lost it.
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I agree... what filmmaker turns his library over to Lionsgate....after being at Paramount. He has lost it.
I'm assuming Paramount turned it over to Lionsgate, not Coppola.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

I dunno, man. It's Coppola. aka the guy that did The Godfather. I'd think Coppola has a good chunk of control w/ what he did at Paramount. I think it's all him now.
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC View Post
I dunno, man. It's Coppola. aka the guy that did The Godfather. I'd think Coppola has a good chunk of control w/ what he did at Paramount. I think it's all him now.
Just read on the DVD Talk section that Coppola's company licensed all their Paramount films to Lionsgate. I guess that helps alongside the Paramount-Lionsgate releasing.

I honestly don't see this as a bad thing. It's a win-win as fans get the titles they want on DVD and Blu-ray alongside Lionsgate having an actual library to work from and put titles out. It also helps that Lionsgate have been usually consistent with the quality of their BD releases and have a better track record than Paramount. Paramount would've never released titles like My Bloody Valentine (uncut), The Phantom, and The Relic amongst others onto BD. My Bloody Valentine and The Relic were released bare bones via Paramount, but the Lionsgate releases actually contain extras (commentaries, featurettes, etc) and solid PQ/AQ.

Hopefully the BD release contains both versions and Hearts of Darkness... but we will see.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

I don't think seamless branching is possible on account of technical reasons such as different color timing, etc.

I also doubt we'll get it in OAR. Storaro has been getting his way with "his" movies for quite a while, (see Last Emperor). I honestly don't think we will see these films released properly until after he has shuffled off this mortal coil.

FWIW, I agree that the pacing of redux is too slow....that scene with those French people at the old rubber plantation really drags.
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re: UPDATE: Apocalypse Now 2-Disc & 3-Disc (w/ Hearts of Darkness) Announced 10/19/2010

BUT the nudity from the woman is interesting...hahha
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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k View Post
I don't think seamless branching is possible on account of technical reasons such as different color timing, etc.
Wasn't the dvd seamlessly branched?
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Wasn't the dvd seamlessly branched?
Yes. That's correct. The DVD was two-discs with the film split across the discs and extras scattered.

I think most agree that the theatrical cut is the far superior edit of the film.
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I hated that the Dossier literally split the film into 2 discs...annoying as fuck.

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