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Old 06-26-13, 09:38 PM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

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It's not about saturation. It's about being entirely the wrong color.

To each their own. It looks to me just like every single movie made since 2000, which is not what a movie made in 1984 is supposed to look like.
It is ironic that, after winning the aspect ratio war, we now have to deal with movies being re-colored.

If I wanted to see The Terminator like that, I'd wear sunglasses while I was watching it.
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Old 06-26-13, 10:10 PM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

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My projector is calibrated to a DeltaE of less than 1. What I'm seeing are the colors encoded in the transfer.

It's not about saturation. It's about being entirely the wrong color.



To each their own. It looks to me just like every single movie made since 2000, which is not what a movie made in 1984 is supposed to look like.
I get that it's not correct. But the use of the word gaudy does not bring to mind what I see here. If you'd said it now looks muted compared the warmer tones it originally exhibited, I'd agree. And I do prefer the original colors but, to be honest, the newer ones don't bother me as I thought they would. Not even the remixed audio bothers me.

On the subject of the audio, did it get remixed yet again? This BD is the first time I've seen the movie outside of VHS so I never heard the remixed track before. However, I did watch a comparison video on youtube regarding infamous change to the gunfire audio during the iconic "Sarah Connor?" scene. The gunfire I heard on the BD did not sound like either of the two versions. There was a bit of the new "thwip" but it was pushed further into the background of a new "crack" and a noticeable LFE kick. Or is that difference simply the result of some limitation of audio on youtube?
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Old 06-26-13, 10:20 PM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

None of the screenshots I've seen online over the yrs from films accused of color timing are representative of what I see on my tv. I've seen Terminator probably a half dozen times over the years, and I was aware of the color timing accusations while watching... even looking for it I couldn't discern a noticeable difference from before. If T1 is representative of new transfers for these I say bring it on.
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Old 06-27-13, 10:01 AM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

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On the subject of the audio, did it get remixed yet again? This BD is the first time I've seen the movie outside of VHS so I never heard the remixed track before. However, I did watch a comparison video on youtube regarding infamous change to the gunfire audio during the iconic "Sarah Connor?" scene. The gunfire I heard on the BD did not sound like either of the two versions. There was a bit of the new "thwip" but it was pushed further into the background of a new "crack" and a noticeable LFE kick. Or is that difference simply the result of some limitation of audio on youtube?
It's the same mix as the DVD and the last Blu-ray.
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Old 06-27-13, 10:04 AM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

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None of the screenshots I've seen online over the yrs from films accused of color timing are representative of what I see on my tv. I've seen Terminator probably a half dozen times over the years, and I was aware of the color timing accusations while watching... even looking for it I couldn't discern a noticeable difference from before. If T1 is representative of new transfers for these I say bring it on.
I watched the disc on my projector, not just looked at screenshots. While perhaps not as bad as the Aliens Blu-ray (which has virtually no other colors in the entire movie now except teal and orange), The Terminator has been unmistakably tealed throughout.
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Old 06-27-13, 11:48 AM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
It is ironic that, after winning the aspect ratio war, we now have to deal with movies being re-colored.

If I wanted to see The Terminator like that, I'd wear sunglasses while I was watching it.
I'm not even sure we quite won that war. I see plenty of tweaks, that while minor, aren't the OAR.
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Old 06-27-13, 01:43 PM
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Re: True Lies & The Abyss Blus in 2014, plus The X-Files & Twin Peaks

A 20th anny comic con panel has been announced for The X-Files so maybe we will get an announcement for the BDs then.
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Old 06-27-13, 07:11 PM
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A 20th anny comic con panel has been announced for The X-Files so maybe we will get an announcement for the BDs then.
They've wanted to get a third movie off the ground for some time...
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Old 09-04-13, 04:25 PM
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The Abyss on Blu-ray ever?

Dunno how legit this is, but here you go

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I'd hit it.
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Re: The Abyss on Blu-ray (March 14, 2014?)

If so....it's mine day 1
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Damn.
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Re: The Abyss on Blu-ray (March 14, 2014?)

only an asshole would make an image like that. all it does is make people who want it excited enough to look past any telltales or peculiarities. as few fucks as i could give for any james cameron film, i know this is one people want, so whoever made this can go suck dicks in hell for trying to pass it off as legit.
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Re: The Abyss on Blu-ray (March 14, 2014?)

I got all excited. Goddamnit.
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Old 09-04-13, 08:02 PM
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only an asshole would make an image like that. all it does is make people who want it excited enough to look past any telltales or peculiarities. as few fucks as i could give for any james cameron film, i know this is one people want, so whoever made this can go suck dicks in hell for trying to pass it off as legit.
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Old 09-04-13, 08:30 PM
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Re: The Abyss on Blu-ray (March 14, 2014?)

It's interesting how the home video status of Abyss/True Lies generates next to no outrage when they've so far had the same treatment as the original theatrical cuts of the Star Wars films. What a difference spite makes.
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Old 09-04-13, 09:01 PM
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It's interesting how the home video status of Abyss/True Lies generates next to no outrage when they've so far had the same treatment as the original theatrical cuts of the Star Wars films. What a difference spite makes.
What the hell are you talking about? Both cuts of The Abyss have always been available and I don't recall an alternate cut of True Lies. Yes, neither film has made it's way to BD but it's not at all like Star Wars where the original versions have been withheld.
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Old 09-04-13, 09:20 PM
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Re: The Abyss on Blu-ray (March 14, 2014?)

Has The Abyss ever had an anamorphic DVD release?

I bought a copy a few days ago which had the 3D slipcover and on the reverse side it specifically mentioned 2.35:1 widescreen Anamorphic. The trapsheet itself just said widescreen version 2.35:1.

I played it and it was just 2.35:1 widescreen (4:3 format) non-anamorphic. I knew it was too good to be true.

I also bought a 2006 re-release of Kalifornia, which used to be 1.85 non-anamorphic. The trapsheet just stated 1.85:1 widescreen. Surprisingly, the DVD was actually anamorphic even through nothing on the case or disc stated it as being such.

I wish they would proof-read and make these specs accurate especially when almost no-one wants or needs a 4:3 format disc in this day and age.
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Re: The Abyss on Blu-ray (March 14, 2014?)

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Old 09-04-13, 10:09 PM
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I just checked and my 2003 2 disc set is anamorphic. Only checked the theatrical cut though.
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Only the menu was anamorphic,
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What the hell are you talking about? Both cuts of The Abyss have always been available and I don't recall an alternate cut of True Lies. Yes, neither film has made it's way to BD but it's not at all like Star Wars where the original versions have been withheld.
I'm talking about how the best available release for all 3 on a mainstream home video format is a non-anamorphic transfer created for laserdisc ported to DVD. The same goes for something like They Shoot Horses, Don't They? I must say I'd be more enthusiastic for a Blu-ray of that than the other 3.
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