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Old 03-08-10, 02:56 PM
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Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

I watched this movie before, this one is a really great Chinese movie. No it has three editions for 288mins(I don't think 148 mins one is good). The best should be Hongkong one, but it's too expensive. UK is cheap, but supply in PAL. Just waiting to see US one.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

I thought there was a question in here?

I'd like to get this movie also, but the $50 USD asking price for each part (for the HK version) is too much. I believe there are 3 different US releases coming, aren't there? The International Cut (combining, and, I'm assuming, trimming both Parts I and II) and individual releases for Part I and Part II.
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Still less than £10 at Amazon UK for both parts.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cliff-Specia...8082324&sr=8-1
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by truelies
UK is cheap, but supply in PAL.
There is no PAL or NTSC or SECAM on Blu-ray Disc. It is not a concern. Just ensure the disc is not region-locked if you don't have a region-free player.

I was planning on ordering the one in the yellow case off Amazon. Is this one not the complete, definitive version?

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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

The UK release actually has little bits of cuts here and there (mostly for horse-violence, I think).

The US release should be completely uncut.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by slop101
The UK release actually has little bits of cuts here and there (mostly for horse-violence, I think).
Interesting. Didn't know that one was snipped, but it makes sense based on some of the others they've cut for the same reasons (House of Flying Daggers, The Warlords, etc).
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Bah! I was just about to get the UK one. Glad I read this before purchasing.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

$100 for both BD HK discs was a bargain considering the quality of both the film and its presentation. I paid it gladly but, as the combined versions are going to be available domestically on BD with a price tag probably in the 30-50 range for the "Whole" film, it'd be a mistake not to pick this up.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

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Still less than £10 at Amazon UK for both parts.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cliff-Specia...8082324&sr=8-1
This is the version to get so far, for relative completeness and utterly fantastic A/V quality. The cuts mentioned in it are a few frames of horse violence (those wacky British censors), that is all. I own it and personally endorse the U.K. edition linked above. The only reason to get the Hong Kong BD is if you are a native speaker, because the English subtitles are not defeatable on the U.K. special edition. There is zero chance the American BD by Magnolia surpasses it in A/V quality.
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
This is the version to get so far, for relative completeness and utterly fantastic A/V quality. The cuts mentioned in it are a few frames of horse violence (those wacky British censors), that is all. I own it and personally endorse the U.K. edition linked above. The only reason to get the Hong Kong BD is if you are a native speaker, because the English subtitles are not defeatable on the U.K. special edition. There is zero chance the American BD by Magnolia surpasses it in A/V quality.
I like they just copy HK edition. Don't know why they tried to make a new edition.
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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
There is no PAL or NTSC or SECAM on Blu-ray Disc. It is not a concern. Just ensure the disc is not region-locked if you don't have a region-free player.

I was planning on ordering the one in the yellow case off Amazon. Is this one not the complete, definitive version?

Where's this version from?

Except for the crappy watermarking on the first movie, the HK versions have gotten stellar reviews.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Cl...y-Review/1935/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Cl...y-Review/4635/
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

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Where's this version from?
The U.S. from Magnolia
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Where's this version from?

Except for the crappy watermarking on the first movie, the HK versions have gotten stellar reviews.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Cl...y-Review/1935/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Cl...y-Review/4635/

International Version

Theatrical Version

Both are from Magnolia and are being released in R1 on March 23.
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Oh, cool. Thanks guys.

I notice that the UK version has Mandarin: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Cl...y-Review/6761/) whereas the HK releases have Mandarin: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1, Mandarin: LPCM 7.1, and Mandarin: Dolby TrueHD 7.1 audio tracks. Why not just port over one of the 7.1 tracks instead of creating a new 5.1 track?
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
There is zero chance the American BD by Magnolia surpasses it in A/V quality.
However, isn't there a fair chance it will more or less match it? I would imagine they'll be encoding from the same source DI.

If the US version uses the same source and features no cuts or watermarking, a reasonable compression and removable subtitles, it'll be the one for me.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

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However, isn't there a fair chance it will more or less match it? I would imagine they'll be encoding from the same source DI.

If the US version uses the same source and features no cuts or watermarking, a reasonable compression and removable subtitles, it'll be the one for me.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by Doctorossi
However, isn't there a fair chance it will more or less match it? I would imagine they'll be encoding from the same source DI.

If the US version uses the same source and features no cuts or watermarking, a reasonable compression and removable subtitles, it'll be the one for me.
Fingers crossed.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Oh, cool. Thanks guys.

I notice that the UK version has Mandarin: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Cl...y-Review/6761/) whereas the HK releases have Mandarin: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1, Mandarin: LPCM 7.1, and Mandarin: Dolby TrueHD 7.1 audio tracks. Why not just port over one of the 7.1 tracks instead of creating a new 5.1 track?
Probably the same reason why Magnet opted not to port over the theatrical subs on Let the Right One in initially. I'm pretty happy with my HK release of Red Cliff. I may Netflix the theatrical cut just to see where they axed stuff.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
Probably the same reason why Magnet opted not to port over the theatrical subs on Let the Right One in initially.
Yeah, why did they do that?

Originally Posted by trespoochies
I'm pretty happy with my HK release of Red Cliff. I may Netflix the theatrical cut just to see where they axed stuff.
I read that the shortened cut reduces Part One to 60 minutes and Part Two to 80 minutes.

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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

I don't know how much of the UK version was cut (seems negligible) because there's some pretty intense violence involving horses in that version the film. That said, I'd highly recommend the UK version. The transfer, especially for Part I, is INSANE!

Although I heard the US cut was actually pretty good, I can't imagine being satisfied after watching both parts. There's so much detail and character development, the movie doesn't feel like 5 hours either.

So bottom line, I'd go for the UK to save some dough but if not make sure you get the international version from the US.
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I went ahead and pre-ordered the US release of the International Version. I'll cancel if it gets shitty reviews or the HK version suddenly drops in price.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Its $80 shipped for both on yesasia. Still pricy, but not the $100 mentioned. Check dddhouse, hkflix, blueasia, can prob still find it cheaper as yesasia is usually a bit more.
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Unless I can get both for around $25.49 (the current price for Red Cliff International Version - Part I & Part II at Amazon), I don't see myself getting the HK release. It's the same reason I've been holding out for a US release of Ip Man.
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Is there any good reason not to get the US version? I can't figure out why you all are spending so much money to import when we're getting the films here in a mere three weeks. Have some details surfaced to show that the Magnolia release will have inferior technical specs, or what?
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Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Unless I can get both for around $25.49 (the current price for Red Cliff International Version - Part I & Part II at Amazon), I don't see myself getting the HK release. It's the same reason I've been holding out for a US release of Ip Man.
I spent $30 for the HK release of Ip Man - and it's been worth every penny. Great picture and 7.1 audio to boot.


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