Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Because of her character or some other reason?

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

This is another one that was good, but I think it was good because of things besides her. She was just OK IMO.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Forget Leon, Beautiful Girls, and Closer. Clearly Natalie Portman's best role was in Natalie Raps.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Although the longer cut was his original cut. He only cut it because of feedback from US audience tests (Megaplex Joe-6-pack types i bet). - And that always makes for a better film eh?

So i leave it to you which is the more true and correct cut. And I will only believe it when I hear it from Besson's own mouth as to which his preferred cut is, as opposed to people trying to justify the validity of the theatrical cut.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Closer is the only movie that makes me NOT want to watch her in anything else. Makes me happy to get Leon and watch that one again.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Joe Six-Pack. rotfl :lol: -ohbfrank-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2000/...tbfisouthbank1

There it is, out of Besson's own mouth.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Great link thanks.

And I wonder which cut he prefers now.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Personally I think Natalie's best adult performance was in "Anywhere But Here". Also, I hate hate HATE "Closer". With a passion. The dialogue with three words here, two word responses there was torture for me. It was like a two hour Calvin Klein commercial. And I love this critic's review of it:

Attack of the Moans
by Scott Holleran

Mike Nichols (The Graduate, Working Girl) must have been in a bad mood when he picked Patrick Marber's play, Closer, to direct for the cinema. This star vehicle is one long, moaning diatribe against romantic love with pretty people looking dour, talking in riddles and agonizing in self-pity. It is the screen's most pretentious display of pedantic nonsense this year.

The love quadrangle begins with what seems like a budding romance, which is actually a forewarning to Closer's theme that love is not only blind but also deformed. Jude Law's writer is walking along a crowded London street, in slow motion, toward Natalie Portman's street urchin stripper. It is love at first sight—bathed in lush photography like the whole movie—and then, suddenly, a car hits Portman's ragamuffin.

What seems like an innocuous device to connect the fated pair—Law rushes to her aid and, as she lay wounded but alive, she speaks to him—is the emblem for Closer's contrived misery. They go to the hospital, exchange lines in that West Wing-style of incomplete sentences, ride a bus and, apparently, fall in love. But Closer holds that love is based on whim, not on values, and Law's writer is cheating on Portman by the next scene. Closer begs us to want to know why. For a while, it works.

Enter Julia Roberts, playing a photographer and the movie's most despicable character. She seduces Law, who flirts back, until Portman shows up and does a pouty version of her role in The Professional had her girl-assassin grown up and gone bad. Finishing the foursome is Clive Owen as a doctor who's just about the dumbest dude on the World Wide Web. Owen fares best, having played Law's role on stage, though that's like being dressed for dinner on the Titanic, and his overwrought breakdown during Portman's striptease is awkward.

Closer is a gimmick of time frame—months go by in seconds, books are published, characters get married, partners change—and at one point it goes backwards, just when it desperately needs to wrap things up and let everyone go home. As Closer's moral center, Law's sniveling writer makes no sense. Every event crucial to his character and to the plot is unaccounted for: his book is published, yet Marber reveals nothing about its meaning—he cheats on Portman and becomes obsessed with Roberts, who's as enticing as cardboard here—he throws himself into the role of a man-hunting female whore on the Web to retaliate against Roberts or because he likes it (it's never clear which) and he comes crawling back to Portman, who's as seductive as your girlfriend's gangly kid sister.

Men go bad, women go weak, and it's all talky, showy and stiflingly claustrophobic. That the four leads look pretty and trim is no consolation. Watching people tear each other apart with smug sarcasm is as monotonous as it sounds. Closer is closer to a high-gloss spit at the world, with a steady soundtrack that, like its plot, comes from nowhere.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Just the theatrical cut according to the bits. :(

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

That went from a definite purchase to a complete not bother quickly.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Thanks to Sony, my wallet will be a little fatter come November.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

same here.

dammit.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

one version = no sale. Thanks for saving me a few more $.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

I'm not sure I believe that. The extras were all made for a DVD that solely contains the TC and they talk about the alternate cuts in the features...

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

How difficult can it be to have both versions with seamless branching on a BD-50? If true, this is a big disappointment.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Sony usually opts for the extended/dir cuts too it seems. Very disappointing if true... every other source had it as both cuts... hmmm.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Theatrical only? Pass. I much prefer the longer cut.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Well, it's not like "the bits" hasn't been wrong before. Maybe there's still hope.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Doesn't make sense. I don't think they've released the Professional standalone w/o Leon since the original DVD over 10 years ago.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

They've never released them together in the US at all, and the last three DVD releases of the movie were the longer version (standard, non-SE DC, Superbit DC, SE Superbit DC).

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

No way is it just the theatrical cut. No one will buy it if that's the case.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Sony USA's website lists the running time for this release as 242 minutes, which just happens to be the total of the TC and the DC added together. Hmm.

Won't buy if it's just the TC, but I'm not convinced yet that it will be.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

:up:

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

That's right..for some reason I was thinking the last black cover DVD release had the theatrical cut included.

No way this BD is the Professional. It has to include Leon.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

It includes both. I'm not sure where The Bits got its info....

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

I thought so. Just look at the amazon listing:

"Run Time: 242 minutes"

1h49 + 2h13 = ??? ;)

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

...source?

Amazon listings for unreleased items constantly have incorrect information. I'll lean toward believing The Bits until I see some hard evidence to the contrary.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

How about the simple fact, as I already stated, that no one will buy this if it's only the U.S. theatrical cut? Seriously. That should be proof enough - not based on my word - but based on the fact we all know it to be true. Fans of this film will not accept that.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Skoobooz IS the source. I'm not worried.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Bill Hunt isn't exactly the bastion of accurate early information either. I suspect he got some bad info and jumped the gun on this one.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

I suppose the Lord of the Rings are coming out then with the extended versions?

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Sure seems that way actually. They delayed/canceled the Theatrical Cuts set.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

They were delayed (not canceled) for monetary reasons, not so they could release them with the extended cuts.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

:banana:

:sad:

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

^ :lol: My thoughts exactly.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Did you not believe it the the first time you were told?

Do some research if you have doubts.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Are you an insider? This is the first I have heard of it being delayed for monetary reasons. Everything I've read so far has been rumor.

As for Leon: The Professional, it is an entirely different matter - as great a film as it is it is nowhere near as popular as something like The Lord of the Rings.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Are you kidding me? How am I supposed to know whether some random dude is an insider or whatever? Look at my post count dude, don't expect everybody to know everything about this place, especially when your only response is a 4 word sentence with no explanation whatsoever. No need to be such a jerk.

Well that's what Bill Hunt said and what everyone else has been saying on other forums, but I guess there hasn't been any confirmation so I apologize for assuming. Still, to say "nobody will buy it" isn't exactly proof of anything. Of course people will buy inferior Blu-Rays, it happens every day.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Like I said - DO SOME RESEARCH if you aren't sure. Some might say a new member posting nothing but "....source?" is being a jerk. It's not the forum's job to put it on a silver platter for you just because you decided to show up.

If you're new to a forum and two different long-time members tell you he's the source, well, STFU about it and move on.

Re: Leon - The Professional - November
 

Those people would be wrong. There's nothing amiss about asking for a source on what is obviously a contentious issue that nobody seems to know the exact answer to. Relax dude. Seriously.