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re: Criterion...oh, apparently isn't joining the Disney bandwagon (price raise typo)

Perhaps Criterion heard the uproar or had a price error (both newsletter and website) but these are now listed at $39.95 on Criterions site.
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re: Criterion...oh, apparently isn't joining the Disney bandwagon (price raise typo)

The worst part about this (and what they don't tell you) is that manufacturing costs of blu-ray discs have gone down enough so that they cost almost the same to make as DVDs. But they're increasing their prices nonetheless. I guess they figure anyone who's bought a nice HDTV and a bluray player has enough money to burn that they won't mind an increase in disc prices.
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I notice that they changed the prices to $39.95. Hopefully, they will keep it this way.
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speculation is that they used last months Monterey Pop as a template for the new releases, which has a $49.95 MSRP. They're known for not checking their release specs very well...
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I haven't spent $35 (or $28 even) on any of the discs in my collection. Even so, Criterion's always been a premium product in my eyes (as is blu-ray). I don't mind paying more for the quality they deliver.
Criterion was a premium product all throughout the life of laserdisc and the early days of DVD. But since studios now routinely put out special editions that equal or surpass Criterion for less money, I don't see what makes Criterion so premium anymore. Do I get excited when they put out a movie I love? Of course, but no more excited than when a studio puts out a movie I love.
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I was just looking ta the Fry's ad and several Disney BD's - Chronicles of Narnia, High School Musical and 3, National Treasure 1 and 2, Bedtime Stories - are all $13.99. Which goes to what I've stated before, there's no need to buy Day 1 unless you really want it. There's still sales - at a good price - even on titles they are hiking prices up on.

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I don't wish to spoil anyone's doom and gloom plans, but here's a bit of inside info for those who may be interested in it. Not only there isn't a change of heart at Criterion in regard to Blu-ray, but the distributors are actually planning on offering a number of contemporary films (Che obviously already being leaked). Ciao!


WINGS OF DESIRE – DVD & BD
Wings of Desire (Der Himmel über Berlin) is one of cinema’s loveliest city symphonies. Bruno Ganz is Damiel, an angel perched atop buildings high over Berlin who can hear the thoughts—fears, hopes, and dreams—of all the people living below. But when he falls in love with a beautiful trapeze artist, he is willing to give up his immortality to come back to earth to be with her. Made not long before the fall of the Berlin Wall, this stunning tapestry of sounds and images, shot in black and white and color by the legendary Henri Alekan, is movie poetry. And it forever made the name Wim Wenders synonymous with film art.

1987 € 127 minutes € Black & White/Color € Surround € In German, English, and French with English subtitles € 1.66:1 aspect ratio

€ Directed by Wim Wenders (The American Friend; Paris, Texas;
Buena Vista Social Club)
€ Starring Bruno Ganz (Nosferatu, Downfall, The Reader)
€ Starring Peter Falk (Columbo, A Woman Under the Influence,
The In-Laws)
€ Cinematography by Henri Alekan (Beauty and the Beast, Anna Karenina, Roman Holiday)

DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
€ New, restored high-definition digital transfer, supervised and approved by director Wim Wenders (with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition)
€ Audio commentary featuring Wenders and actor Peter Falk
€ The Angels Among Us (2003), a documentary featuring interviews with Wenders, Falk, actors Bruno Ganz and Otto Sander, writer Peter Handke, and composer Jürgen Knieper
€ Excerpt from “Wim Wenders Berlin Jan. 87,” an episode of the French television program Cinéma cinémas, including on-set footage
€ Interview with director of photography Henri Alekan
€ Deleted scenes and outtakes
€ Excerpts from the films Alekan la lumière (1985) and Remembrance: Film for Curt Bois (about the actor who plays Homer in Wings of Desire)
€ Notes and photos by production designer Heidi Lüdi and art director Toni Lüdi
€ Trailers
€ New and improved English subtitle translation
€ PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Michael Atkinson and writings by Wenders and Handke

TITLE: WINGS OF DESIRE (DVD EDITION)
CAT: CC1831D
UPC: 7-15515-04651-0
ISBN: 978-1-60465-160-7
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 9/22/09
STREET: 10/20/09

TITLE: WINGS OF DESIRE (BLU-RAY EDITION)
CAT: CC1832BD
UPC: 7-15515-04641-1
ISBN: 978-1-60465-159-1
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 9/22/09
STREET: 10/20/09


MONSOON WEDDING – DVD & BD
Cultures and families clash in Mira Nair’s exuberant Monsoon Wedding, a mix of comedy and chaotic melodrama concerning the preparations for the arranged marriage of a modern upper-middle-class Indian family’s only daughter, Aditi. Of course there are hitches—Aditi has been having an affair with a married TV host; she’s never met her husband to be, who lives in Houston; the wedding has worsened her father’s hidden financial troubles; even the wedding planner has become a nervous wreck—as well as buried family secrets. But Nair’s celebration is ultimately joyful and cathartic: a love song to her home city of Delhi and her own Punjabi family.

2001 € 114 minutes € Color € Surround € In English and Hindi with English subtitles € 1.85:1 aspect ratio

€ Directed by Mira Nair (Salaam Bombay!, Mississippi Masala, The Namesake)
€ Cinematography by Declan Quinn (Vanya on 42nd Street, Leaving Las Vegas, Rachel Getting Married)
€ Starring Naseeruddin Shah (The Perfect Murder, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Krrish)

DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
€ New, restored high-definition digital transfer, supervised by director Mira Nair and director of photography Declan Quinn (with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition)
€ Audio commentary featuring Nair
€ Nair’s short documentaries So Far from India (1983), India Cabaret (1985), and The Laughing Club of India (2001), featuring video introductions by the director
€ Nair’s short fiction films The Day the Mercedes Became a Hat (1993), 11'09"01—September 11 (Segment: “India”) (2002), Migration (2007), and How Can It Be? (2008), featuring video introductions by the director
€ New video interview with actor Naseeruddin Shah, conducted by Nair
€ New video interviews with Quinn and production designer Stephanie Carroll
€ Theatrical trailer
€ New and improved English subtitle translation
€ PLUS: An essay by critic and travel writer Pico Iyer

TITLE: MONSOON WEDDING (DVD EDITION)
CAT: CC1842D
UPC: 7-15515-04911-5
ISBN: 978-1-60465-188-1
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 9/15/09
STREET: 10/13/09

TITLE: MONSOON WEDDING (BLU-RAY EDITION)
CAT: CC1843BD
UPC: 7-15515-04921-4
ISBN: 978-1-60465-189-8
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 9/15/09
STREET: 10/13/09


HOWARDS END Blu-ray
The pinnacle of the decades-long collaboration between director James Ivory and producer Ismail Merchant, Howards End is a thought-provoking, luminous vision of E. M. Forster’s cutting 1910 novel about class divisions in Edwardian England. Emma Thompson won an Academy Award for her dynamic portrayal of Margaret Schlegel, a flighty yet compassionate middle-class intellectual whose friendship with the dying wife (Vanessa Redgrave) of rich capitalist Henry Wilcox (Anthony Hopkins) commences an intricately woven tale of money, love, and death that encompasses the country’s highest and lowest social echelons. With a brilliant, layered script by Ruth Prawer Jhabvala (who also won an Oscar) and a roster of gripping performances, Howards End is a work of both great beauty and vivid darkness, and one of cinema’s greatest literary adaptations.

1992 € 142 minutes € Color € Stereo € 2.35:1 aspect ratio
€ Directed by James Ivory (A Room with a View, Maurice, The Remains of the Day)
€ Produced by Ismail Merchant (Heat and Dust, The Bostonians, The Europeans)
€ Starring Emma Thompson (The Remains of the Day, Sense and Sensibility, Brideshead Revisited)
€ Starring Anthony Hopkins (The Remains of the Day, The Silence of the Lambs, Nixon)
€ Starring Vanessa Redgrave (Blow-Up, Julia, Mrs. Dalloway)

BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
€ High-definition digital transfer, supervised by cinematographer Tony Pierce-Roberts, with uncompressed Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack
€ New appreciation of the late Ismail Merchant by director James Ivory
€ Building “Howards End,” a documentary featuring interviews with Ivory, Merchant, Helena Bonham Carter, costume designer Jenny Beavan, and Academy Award–winning production designer Luciana Arrighi
€ The Design of “Howards End,” a detailed look at the costume and production designs for the film, including original sketches
€ The Wandering Company (1984), a 50-minute documentary about the history of Merchant Ivory Productions
€ Original 1992 behind-the-scenes featurette
€ Original theatrical trailer
€ PLUS: An essay by critic Kenneth Turan

TITLE: HOWARDS END (BLU-RAY EDITION)
CAT: CC1841BD
UPC: 7-15515-05101-9
ISBN: 978-1-60465-214-7
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 9/22/09
STREET: 10/20/09


Z
A pulse-pounding political thriller, Greek expatriate director Costa-Gavras’s Z was one of the cinematic sensations of the late sixties, and remains among the most vital dispatches from that hallowed era of filmmaking. This Academy Award winner—loosely based on the 1963 assassination of Greek left-wing activist Gregoris Lambrakis—stars Yves Montand as a prominent politician and doctor whose public murder amid a violent demonstration is covered up by military and government officials; Jean-Louis Trintignant is the tenacious magistrate who’s determined not to let them get away with it. Featuring kinetic, rhythmic editing, Raoul Coutard’s expressive vérité photography, and Mikis Theodorakis’s unforgettable, propulsive score, Z is a technically audacious and emotionally gripping masterpiece.

1969 € 127 minutes € Color € Monaural € In French with English subtitles € 1.66:1 aspect ratio

€ Directed by Costa-Gavras (State of Siege, Missing, Music Box)
€ Starring Yves Montand (The Wages of Fear, La guerre est finie, Jean de Florette)
€ Starring Jean-Louis Trintignant (My Night at Maud’s, The Conformist, Red)

SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
€ New, restored high-definition digital transfer, approved by cinematographer Raoul Coutard
€ Audio commentary featuring film historian Peter Cowie
€ New interviews with Costa-Gavras and Coutard
€ Archival interviews with Costa-Gavras; producer-actor Jacques Perrin; actors Yves Montand, Irène Papas, and Jean-Louis Trintignant; and Vassilis Vassilikos, author of the book Z
€ Theatrical trailer
€ New and improved English subtitle translation
€ PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Armond White

TITLE: Z
CAT: CC1848D
UPC: 7-15515-04931-3
ISBN: 978-1-60465-190-4
SRP: $39.95
PREBOOK: 9/29/09
STREET: 10/27/09

Eclipse Series 18: Dusan Makavejev Free Radical


There’s never been another filmmaker quite like Makavejev. Even in the 1960s, when all of cinema’s steadfast rules seemed to be breaking down and artists such as Godard, Cassavetes, and Marker were dissolving the boundaries between fiction and documentary, Yugoslavia’s Makavejev stood alone. His films about political and sexual liberation were revolutionary, raucous, and ribald. Across these, his wild, collagelike first three films, Makavejev investigates—with a tonic mix of earnestness and whimsy—love, death, and work; the legacy of war and the absurdity of daily life in a Communist state; criminology and hypnosis; strudels and strongmen.

Man Is Not a Bird -1965

Man Is Not a Bird is an antic portrait of the love lives of two less-than-heroic men who labor inside a copper factory, yet Makavejev makes room for plentiful free-form riffing on the almost comically bleak environs.This is one of cinema’s most assured and daring debuts.

Love Affair, or the Case of the Missing Switchboard Operator - 1967

This story of a tragic romance between a young telephonist (Eva Ras) and a middle-aged rodent sanitation specialist (Slobodan Aligrudic) in Belgrade is an endlessly surprising, time-shifting exploration of love and freedom.

Innocence Unprotected - 1968

This free-associative, utterly unclassifiable film—assembled from the “lost” footage of the first Serbian talkie made during the Nazi occupation—is one of Makavejev’s most freewheeling farces

Ttitle: Eclipse series 18: Dusan Makavejev Free Radical
CAT:ECL081
UPC: 7-15515-04981-8
ISBN: 978-1-60465-195-9
SRP: $44.95
PREBOOK: 9/15/09
STREET: 10/13/09
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
I was just looking ta the Fry's ad and several Disney BD's - Chronicles of Narnia, High School Musical and 3, National Treasure 1 and 2, Bedtime Stories - are all $13.99. Which goes to what I've stated before, there's no need to buy Day 1 unless you really want it. There's still sales - at a good price - even on titles they are hiking prices on.
Those are DVDs....
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The Blu-rays are now back down to $39.95 on Criterion's website too so no need to worry. Maybe a thread title change is necessary.
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
I don't wish to spoil anyone's doom and gloom plans, but here's a bit of inside info for those who may be interested in it. Not only there isn't a change of heart at Criterion in regard to Blu-ray, but the distributors are actually planning on offering a number of contemporary films (Che obviously already being leaked). Ciao!




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Oh, so they FIXED it?
Here is the original newsletter from yesterday:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/55...riterions.html

Notice the
Blu-Ray
1 Disc
SRP: $49.95


? Looks like they messed up on both the NEWSLETTER and WEBSITE pricing? Or perhaps they had a change of mind? Let us know, Pro-B! I'm anxious to see what your employ - err, "sources" report back.

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Re: Criterion joins the Disney bandwagon - Raising prices; now $49.95 MSRP

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Oh, so they FIXED it?
There is no need to be bitter.

I am unsure where the newsletter came from, as the official PR info Criterion send to different sites did not go out until this morning. As usual, there are no photos in it and it actually contains totally different information.

I suspect you have no way of knowing that.

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
There is no need to be bitter.

I am unsure where the newsletter came from, as the official PR info Criterion send to different sites did not go out until this morning. As usual, there are no photos in it and it actually contains totally different information.

I suspect you have no way of knowing that.

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I suspect the website was $49.95 yesterday and changed to $39.95 today. Or do you not believe that happened? No worries. You can go back to that other website and we can continue on Miss you.
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Re: Criterion joins the Disney bandwagon - Raising prices; now $49.95 MSRP

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
I suspect the website was $49.95 yesterday and changed to $39.95 today. Or do you not believe that happened?
Official announcements do not come from Criterion's site. As I said, obviously you have no way of knowing that.

You could get back to searching for news now

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Those are DVDs....
Incorrect - Blu Ray's.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
Incorrect - Blu Ray's.
This is my ad (L.A.). I snapped a pic with my iPhone:
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
Official announcements do not come from Criterion's site. As I said, obviously you have no way of knowing that.

You could get back to searching for news now

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Again, $49.95 at Criterion.com yesterday. Perhaps you should talk to their IT person about price mistakes?
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Oh, so they FIXED it?
Here is the original newsletter from yesterday:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/55...riterions.html

Notice the
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1 Disc
SRP: $49.95


? Looks like they messed up on both the NEWSLETTER and WEBSITE pricing? Or perhaps they had a change of mind? Let us know, Pro-B! I'm anxious to see what your employ - err, "sources" report back.
That's not the newsletter - that was a forum member copying and pasting from the website.

The giveaway is that the order is different. The post linked above lists the upcoming titles alphabetically:

Howards End
Monsoon Wedding
Wings of Desire
Z

Whereas the actual press release lists them differently:

Wings of Desire
Monsoon Wedding
Howards End
Z

The press release also includes UPC and ISBN data and prebook dates that aren't included in the Criterion site -and hence, on the post above.
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And my ad in Austin. Not sure why I need to justify your shortsightedness in thinking I can't read an ad or just decided to lie to you cause I'm bored.

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And my ad in Austin. Not sure why I need to justify your shortsightedness in thinking I can't read an ad or just decided to lie to you cause I'm bored.

As I said, that's (the one I posted) a pic from my market which shows all the titles you mentioned. Odd to see such a drastic change like that between the regional markets.
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Yeah, odd you make wrong assumptions.

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That's not the newsletter - that was a forum member copying and pasting from the website.

The giveaway is that the order is different. The post linked above lists the upcoming titles alphabetically:

Howards End
Monsoon Wedding
Wings of Desire
Z

Whereas the actual press release lists them differently:

Wings of Desire
Monsoon Wedding
Howards End
Z

The press release also includes UPC and ISBN data and prebook dates that aren't included in the Criterion site -and hence, on the post above.
Looks like we can't trust a website now with shifty prices.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
Yeah, odd you make wring assumptions.
Yeah, odd how the titles you mentioned are in my ad for the same price but are actually DVDs. Simple mistake.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Looks like we can't trust a website now with shifty prices.
Rather, looks like you were assuming that both the newsletter and the website had the incorrect pricing.

Also looks like you were posting insinuations as to Criterion going back on a price increase based on such (false) assumptions.
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Rather, looks like you were assuming that both the newsletter and the website had the incorrect pricing.

Also looks like you were posting insinuations as to Criterion going back on a price increase based on such (false) assumptions.
They were $49.95 on Criterion.com. If they are pricing it wrong perhaps the blame should be put there? Or not, apparently.

But good to see this brought back both Pro-B & Grubert to the forum. I know you guys are incapable of discussing the actual films or anything else besides Pro/Neg Blu-ray news.
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