inri222

IMO it's Sam Peckinpah's masterpiece. It is however also violent, misogynistic and disturbing. Not as bad as stuff like Salo or I Spit on Your Grave.

Hokeyboy

Remember that "Straw Dogs" remake from a few years ago, when the director took it upon himself to "correct" Peckinpah's "error", and



Way to miss the entire goddamn point of the scene, fuckface.

Kedrix

Thanks for the comparisons. Salo, you couldn't pay me to watch...I've heard so much about that movie, I felt like I've seen it. I Spit On Your Grave, saw it in college, that was enough for me. Actually the bathroom scene was enough for me. So maybe this is along the lines (or a little worse) of say...the Dragon Tattoo movies (just trying to think of a good comparison, violence wise).

dex14

I would say Dragon Tattoo is worse.

AMERICAN

..straw dogs is an excellent early peckinpah movie with outstanding performances by Dustin Hoffman and Susan George...I can't wait to pick up this bluray by criterion...

Paul_SD

IMO, it's not any more visually graphic than anything else you've likely seen in your life, and probably a good bit less so on average.

However the violence here is actually effective because it has narrative and philosophical meaning and weight. I also have come to realize that the charges of misogyny are kind of clueless, SJW hand-wringing. There is a lot more validity in what transpires in that scene (the mixed signals shown to the audience) than most 'level headed' people are willing to acknowledge.

It's a film to experience and then mull over for years after. I can't imagine a better time to watch the film for the first time or reassess it considering everything that is transpiring in Western societies now.

Was going to pass on this as I still have the MGM disc on the shelf waiting to be spun, as well as the original Criterion features ripped off the DVD set I had.
But the film is a library essential to me now, so I might as well just get one edition that does it justice. The new 4K transfer is a lure too.

Mabuse

There's nothing more violent about it than The Wild Bunch. The rape scene is chilling, but not graphic. Peckinpaugh edits around and makes it more abstract.

GoldenJCJ

It's been a long time since I've seen it but IIRC, the rape scene, while disturbing (it is a rape scene after all), is mostly controversial due to Susan George slightly smiling in one shot. IMO, it's debatable whether it was even a "smile".

inri222

Based upon the treatment of women in Peckinpah's films, it's questionable.

milo bloom

I've been meaning to watch those, what's the deal with them?

E Unit

Graphic rape scene.

EinCB

I found out that Criterion did a second printing of Do The Right Thing - why would they do that? It's the same DVD in a slimmer packaging. Is that the reason?

hdnmickey

Maybe at some point those thicker cases were no longer available? I know I stopped seeing them long before I started switching to buying blu-rays. I imagine some of their thicker booklets wouldn't fit in the slim 2 disc DVD cases.

TheDuke

They've done that with a number of their DVD releases. Salo and The Royal Tenenbaums come to mind.

EinCB

Le Samourai might be coming soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/criterion/c..._bluray_is_on/

sb5

I don't think this has been mentioned, but the Special Features have been updated with a Scarlett Johansson interview added. They showed a snippet of the interview setup on Criterion's Facebook and Instagram pages this past day.


https://www.criterion.com/films/28687-ghost-world



If they could top it off with a Steve Buscemi interview, that would be perfect.

dex14

Very nice!

Buscemi lives in NYC, I believe? Hopefully, they can set something up.

GoldenJCJ

I guess Thora Birch found someone to cover her shift at Starbucks so she could participate in the interview.

OldBoy

Good news on ScarJo, but what is Buscemi doing that he couldn't do something?

islandclaws

Please! I've been dying for an announcement.

hdnmickey

Latest newsletter email clue:

dex14

Breaking Point.

BuckNaked2k

Point Break :-D

hdnmickey

Doctorossi

Wow! Gary Busey was in Breaking Point and Point Break?

This guy knows his points and how to break them!