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Old 10-17-17, 08:33 AM
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50 minutes of deleted scenes for Breakfast Club is going to be gold...I hope. There's been years of speculation about the original, longer cut. The actors have spoken of moments they remember that were cut.
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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
I'm happy to double dip and support Criterion, but the least they could do is port over everything from the 30th Anniv disc, so their release could be the definitive version and I could get rid of the disc I have. I'm on the fence.
i think the only thing missing is the trivia track.
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Originally Posted by Rypro 525
i think the only thing missing is the trivia track.
There was also a short documentary on the Brat Pack that doesn't seem to be listed among the Criterion extras for Breakfast Club.
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The " Documentary from 2015 featuring interviews with cast and crew" is not the same as "Sincerely Yours: A Twelve Part Documentary." As that documentary predates 2015 by about 8 or 9 years as it was one the special features on the "Flashback" dvd I bought close to a decade ago. Unless they are mistaken about the 2015 date, they are 2 completely different documentaries.
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Wouldn't surprise me if the info mentioned in those docs overlaps with what they have produced or found in the archives and that's why they aren't there
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Would be great if new doc, but I think we would have heard about that by now...
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Barry Lyndon reviews are coming out. No one has stated if Criterion restored the correct WB logo.
Anyone?
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http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....o#post14133450


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Is it really that big a deal if they used the new logo instead of the old one?

It's not part of the film and it's not like you're going to sit and watch it for 90+ minutes.
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Is it really that big a deal if they used the new logo instead of the old one?

It's not part of the film and it's not like you're going to sit and watch it for 90+ minutes.
It's a very big deal for this film and The Shining. The logo is animated and moves and Kubrick replaced the standard music with music unique to each film and it creates a marvelous effect.
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Originally Posted by Coral
Is it really that big a deal if they used the new logo instead of the old one?

It's not part of the film and it's not like you're going to sit and watch it for 90+ minutes.
The film's unique score is playing over that image, so in my opinion it absolutely is part of the film.
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Originally Posted by Mabuse
It's a very big deal for this film and The Shining.
I agree.

Not a Kubrick film, but for me it was also a big deal for The Exorcist.
That opening with the old logo helps set the tone of the film.


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The original Warner logo looks like a Sumo wrestler bending over to pick something up.

I'm in agreement that the original is preferred, but I don't think it's that big a deal.

Reminds me of all the stink about the West Side Story opening credits.
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Originally Posted by andicus
The original Warner logo looks like a Sumo wrestler bending over to pick something up.

I'm in agreement that the original is preferred, but I don't think it's that big a deal.

Reminds me of all the stink about the West Side Story opening credits.

Holy shit, it does!
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Originally Posted by kefrank
The film's unique score is playing over that image, so in my opinion it absolutely is part of the film.
Well in this case, the music is part of the film - the logo isn't. The logo isn't Kurbricks creation or vision, the choice of music is... and that's still being presented with the new logo.

It's a corporate logo - something I'd rather not have to see in the first place when watching a film.
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Originally Posted by Coral
Well in this case, the music is part of the film - the logo isn't. The logo isn't Kurbricks creation or vision, the choice of music is... and that's still being presented with the new logo.

It's a corporate logo - something I'd rather not have to see in the first place when watching a film.
I respectfully disagree. Your position doesn't make a lot of sense to me. A film is a combination of images and sound and directors operate within the confines of the studio producing the film. Do you really think an exacting director like Kubrick didn't consciously decide to start the score over the studio logo he knew would be there? That wasn't a creative decision on his part?

I'd like to better understand where you draw these distinctions. Do you think it would matter if the Paramount logo was totally changed at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
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Originally Posted by Coral
Well in this case, the music is part of the film - the logo isn't. The logo isn't Kurbricks creation or vision, the choice of music is... and that's still being presented with the new logo.

It's a corporate logo - something I'd rather not have to see in the first place when watching a film.
I disrespectivly disagree. Cut it out. The mission of Criterion is to present the movie as close to its director's preference and as close to how it was exhibited at the time of release. No director more than Kubrick tried to maintain optimal conditions when his films were exhibited. The utmost care should be taken to recreate the original experience, and people with "I don't really care either way" attitudes should be silent.

Kubrick feared apathetic projectionists with that attitude. Warner has a history of indifference to technical specifications. Barry Lyndon has never been presented in its correct aspect ratio or with the correct logo by Warner. It IS a big deal that Criterion is doing it right. It IS important to do it right.
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Here's how meticulous Kubrick was when it came to the proper presentation of his film Barry Lyndon

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Kubrick wasn't the only one who cared how his movies were presented

March 27, 1998

Dear Projectionist:

Please do not place the reels of the film Armageddon upside down when projecting.

Yours sincerely,

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