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Old 07-02-14, 07:09 AM
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

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Just to make sure... everybody here knows about this....
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/blu-ray-bar...july-28-a.html
... right?
I already knew, but thanks for posting in this thread as some people may not have known.
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Old 07-08-14, 04:26 PM
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Shit. I bought Thief cuz of the sale. I knew wtf was done to it. Technically speaking, this is a gorgeous image.

Can't grasp why Mann believes EVEN when using the negative as a color reference... That changing color is beneficial to the film.

Fucking great film though. Jesus. It's so goddamn good.
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Old 07-08-14, 06:34 PM
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

Was thinking I was done until the Demy set hits in a couple weeks, but I've recently become very curious to see Shape Of Things To Come and some of the Cassevettes films- two Criterion packages that I've had zero interest in during past sales, despite the glowing reviews of each.

Looks like I'll be getting some use out of the next round of coupons after all.
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake View Post
Shit. I bought Thief cuz of the sale. I knew wtf was done to it. Technically speaking, this is a gorgeous image. Can't grasp why Mann believes EVEN when using the negative as a color reference... That changing color is beneficial to the film. Fucking great film though. Jesus. It's so goddamn good.
I think digital has made directors genuinely believe that such color-timing changes are artistically beneficial for some bizarre reason.
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Originally Posted by georgec View Post
Fully agree! Also, I think you might be referring to a Spielberg interview from a few years ago. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49921
Lucas must not have like hearing that, but God bless Spielberg for finally coming to his senses! Totally agree with him. Let art speak for itself.
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Old 07-09-14, 11:35 AM
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The ending completely made me shake my head, especially when it had been pretty good until that point.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I did buy the blu from the BN Criterion sale. I felt the same way about Collateral though. It was one of the best movies I've seen and the ending completely pissed me off. I hope it's not the same way with THIEF.
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Old 07-09-14, 11:43 AM
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I haven't seen the movie yet, but I did buy the blu from the BN Criterion sale. I felt the same way about Collateral though. It was one of the best movies I've seen and the ending completely pissed me off. I hope it's not the same way with THIEF.
Obviously a different director, but that's how I feel about another film that Criterion released: The Game. I have no desire to see it again because of the ending.
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

Originally Posted by Ringmaster View Post
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I did buy the blu from the BN Criterion sale. I felt the same way about Collateral though. It was one of the best movies I've seen and the ending completely pissed me off. I hope it's not the same way with THIEF.
Now see, I actually liked Collateral's ending...it's one of my favorite movies in fact. But hopefully for your sake...maybe this will be a reverse situation and you end up liking Thief's ending while disliking Collateral.

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Obviously a different director, but that's how I feel about another film that Criterion released: The Game. I have no desire to see it again because of the ending.
*sigh*, my copy of Game is still sealed from the last B&N sale. Maybe I should go ahead and watch it.
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Old 07-09-14, 12:58 PM
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*sigh*, my copy of Game is still sealed from the last B&N sale. Maybe I should go ahead and watch it.
Let me say this: it's worth watching at least once and not everyone is going to be as averse to the ending as I am.
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

I look forward to Eraserhead being green and purple.
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

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I look forward to Eraserhead being green and purple.
Michael Mann is supervising the transfer of Eraserhead too?
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I look forward to Eraserhead being green and purple.
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^wow. It's like it was filmed yesterday!
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

Let's put it this way: Suppose a studio releases a Blu-ray of Chaplin's The Gold Rush, fully colorized with a plethora different colors and shades in every shot. The studio claims that this is exactly what the movie was supposed to look like when it was released to theaters in 1925.

Fans complain: "There was no color film stock in 1925! All movies were black & white! The most a filmmaker could have done was apply broad, crude tints to some scenes, and there's no evidence that this movie ever had tinting like that."

The studio replies: "How do you know? How do you know? Stupid internet whiners. We're telling you this is what it's supposed to look like, so STFU."

Should we just take the studio at its word that this movie from 1925 was always in color, despite the fact that such a thing is totally impossible?

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Old 07-10-14, 09:44 AM
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Let's put it this way: Suppose a studio releases a Blu-ray of Chaplin's The Gold Rush, fully colorized with a plethora different colors and shades in every shot. The studio claims that this is exactly what the movie was supposed to look like when it was released to theaters in 1925.
Chaplin's dead and so is Roland Totheroh (cinematographer) so we'll never know.
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

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Let's put it this way: Suppose a studio releases a Blu-ray of Chaplin's The Gold Rush, fully colorized with a plethora different colors and shades in every shot. The studio claims that this is exactly what the movie was supposed to look like when it was released to theaters in 1925.

Fans complain: "There was no color film stock in 1925! All movies were black & white! The most a filmmaker could have done was apply broad, crude tints to some scenes, and there's no evidence that this movie ever had tinting like that."

The studio replies: "How do you know? How do you know? Stupid internet whiners. We're telling you this is what it's supposed to look like, so STFU."

Should we just take the studio at its word that this movie from 1925 was always in color, despite the fact that such a thing is totally impossible?
That's got to be one of the ridiculous things I've ever read. Now let's see if you now just starting moving goal posts again instead of just admititng how off you were when called on it.
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Chaplin's dead and so is Roland Totheroh (cinematographer) so we'll never know.
Yes, we can know that the movie wasn't in color, and we do know that it wasn't in color. Because there is a historical record we can look at which tells us that the movie was never in color.

If Charlie Chaplin were to communicate to us from the afterlife and claim that The Gold Rush was always in color, we have evidence that he's wrong and (at best) misremembering.
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That's got to be one of the ridiculous things I've ever read. Now let's see if you now just starting moving goal posts again instead of just admititng how off you were when called on it.
Do you even know what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means? You are not using it correctly.
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Do you even know what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means? You are not using it correctly.
Of course I do/am. Rather than admit yoru first shot was off you move the goal so your shot will be on target. Comparing knowing if a B&W film changed to color is a back up to your claim you KNOW your opinion on Thief is fact? = Moving the goal posts to both endlines!

If you knew anything about filmmaking, you'd be able to recognize that.
Another fucking ridculous comment. Once again I'm left to just and moving on.

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Old 07-10-14, 10:53 AM
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Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays, Part II

Modern color, take 2: now with T&O, black crush, and a hint of Abrams!

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@ Eraserhead 2014
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Old 07-10-14, 12:01 PM
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I have not moved any goalposts. I have made an analogy to help you comprehend the issue. Obviously, it hasn't gotten through to you.
An anology that says because something clearly factual (and impossible) makes your out of your ass opinion also factual. Nice try.
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An anology that says because something clearly factual (and impossible) makes your out of your ass opinion also factual. Nice try.
You are an unpleasant person to speak to.

I have laid out a detailed and thoroughly-reasoned case for my side of the debate. The best counter argument you can come up with is: "Nyah nyah, u so stoopid. "

I should know better than to interact with children on the internet.
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I'm the expert. How dare you call me out on my BS.
Fixed.
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So is everyone here passing on the release of Scanners next week?
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