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jeffbase34 05-04-09 01:41 PM

Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 
This is my biggest beef with blu-rays. With my dvd player, I can stop, turn off off the machine, and it will resume play where I left off.

With my PS3, I have to wait forever while the blu-ray launches through the intro screens, and then browse through the scene selection. Five minutes wasted just to start watching again. Heck, even VCRs could resume!

emachine12 05-04-09 01:45 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 
From Josh Z from the other thread about this issue. About two or three topics down from here:


Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 8974731)
Discs encoded with BD-Java cannot have the resume-play function, not on any player, ever. It's a limitation of the format design. ....


Mr. Cinema 05-04-09 01:48 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 
Many BDs have included a bookmark feature to compensate for the lack of resume.

Arthur Dent 05-04-09 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by emachine12 (Post 9424458)
From Josh Z from the other thread about this issue. About two or three topics down from here:

Fortunately, many BD-Java-encoded discs DO have bookmarks.

Honestly, I don't find this to be a big deal, but I guess I can see how some would be annoyed.

Joe Molotov 05-04-09 03:33 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 
My biggest problem is sometimes I accidentally hit Stop when I meant to hit Pause on my PS3, and it takes you back to the PS3 menu. Then you have to wade through the corporate logos and trailers and all that crap again to get back to the movie.

Arthur Dent 05-04-09 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov (Post 9424685)
My biggest problem is sometimes I accidentally hit Stop when I meant to hit Pause on my PS3, and it takes you back to the PS3 menu. Then you have to wade through the corporate logos and trailers and all that crap again to get back to the movie.

I'm guilty of doing the same thing. I think I've done it <5 times, though.

kefrank 05-04-09 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffbase34 (Post 9424452)
Heck, even VCRs could resume!

(pet peeve alert)

If the ability to resume is so important to you that you would go back to using a VCR just for that reason, then by all means, pull out your old tapes and have a ball. If not, then this particular comment carries absolutely no weight and should have been omitted. The respective functionality of the two technologies is so disparate that they're not comparable.


Originally Posted by awil1026
Honestly, I don't find this to be a big deal, but I guess I can see how some would be annoyed.

This is the camp I'm in. I never really used this feature much on DVD, so I don't find it that big of a deal that many BDs don't support it. Obviously it's a different story for people who used it heavily on DVD. That being said, it's hard for me to see how the extra seconds it takes to navigate the menus presents a significant burden (though depending on the disc, the up-front warnings can represent an annoyingly long wait).

namja 05-04-09 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 9424820)
That being said, it's hard for me to see how the extra seconds it takes to navigate the menus presents a significant burden (though depending on the disc, the up-front warnings can represent an annoyingly long wait).

It could take a minute or longer to get to the spot that you were on. That can be very annoying. Remember, this is the NOW generation. If it takes more than a couple seconds, it's considered a nuisance.

And I don't buy that Blu-rays with BD-Java can never have the resume-play function. They can easily build the bookmark function into the stop button (as an option). :D

mzupeman2 05-04-09 04:58 PM

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You should write the code, send it to the companies that manufacture the players, and make a mint.

Sorry. You did say it was easy :D

zyzzle 05-04-09 04:59 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 
I find this "limitation" somewhat annoying. Seems like it would have been very easy to implement in the Blu-ray specs.

The other option is: find a player which allows you to bypass the logos, etc. I think these are called PUOPs... At least for regular DVD, this IS possible with a hacked firmware. As to whether disabling the PUOPs would also be possible with Blu-ray, does anyone know for sure? I do know AnyDVDHD can do it on a PC.

jackson walker 05-04-09 05:03 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 

Originally Posted by Joe Molotov (Post 9424685)
My biggest problem is sometimes I accidentally hit Stop when I meant to hit Pause on my PS3, and it takes you back to the PS3 menu. Then you have to wade through the corporate logos and trailers and all that crap again to get back to the movie.

When that happens to me, I usually just change movies, since I have to go through the set-up all over again anyway. Sometimes this makes for a better video experience; sometimes not.

beebs 05-04-09 05:32 PM

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It's funny that we've progressed this far... and now we take a step back in this particular regard. This is a significant annoyance for me. I watch a ton of movies, 2-3 some nights with many breaks. One wrong key and I'm in the scene selector looking for the right point. It's gotten to the point that I make up little mnemonic devices to remember the time I was at when I paused the disc. For instance: Five Fox Execs shot with four bullets each, three die, one in critical condition for 54:31. :)

On the plus side, the scene selectors are pretty incredible on many of these releases.

But I'm baffled by this move and I'm not sure I enjoy the trade off foisted upon me.

Supermallet 05-04-09 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffbase34 (Post 9424452)
Heck, even VCRs could resume!

Sure, they could resume, but try going back to a scene half an hour away from where you currently were on the tape. Or starting from the beginning.

Edit: Come to think of it, why did we ever move on from VHS? After all, they were always packed with special features, commentaries, and stayed pristine no matter how many times you played them!

Gizmo 05-04-09 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beebs (Post 9424912)
It's funny that we've progressed this far... and now we take a step back in this particular regard. This is a significant annoyance for me. I watch a ton of movies, 2-3 some nights with many breaks. One wrong key and I'm in the scene selector looking for the right point. It's gotten to the point that I make up little mnemonic devices to remember the time I was at when I paused the disc. For instance: Five Fox Execs shot with four bullets each, three die, one in critical condition for 54:31. :)

On the plus side, the scene selectors are pretty incredible on many of these releases.

But I'm baffled by this move and I'm not sure I enjoy the trade off foisted upon me.

Umm...does your player lack the Pause feature?

Supermallet 05-04-09 07:05 PM

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I think he's saying if he intends to hit pause but hits stop instead, he's stuck.

beebs 05-04-09 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9425028)
I think he's saying if he intends to hit pause but hits stop instead, he's stuck.

Exactly. Luckily the 10A doesn't time out of pause, ever. But in the year and half I've had this... I'd done something to muck it up perhaps two dozen times.

In addition, sometimes I wait an hour or more to return to the movie, too. I'd like to shut the thing down and come back to it at the same point... like with SD DVD. Alas, no.

That someone made this design choice for BR is mind bottling. :)

DVD Guy ATL 05-04-09 08:31 PM

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This is terribly annoying for those of us who watch films in multiple sittings. The resume function should be a complete given in 2009, given that we've had it in every home video format thus far. (The OP's point about DVD and VHS is a fair one, and I am baffled by the anger and sarcasm that surfaced in reply.)

Overall I find this annoyance is more than offset by the upgrade in picture quality offered by BD, but it *is* an annoyance nonetheless.

Supermallet 05-04-09 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DVD Guy ATL (Post 9425130)
This is terribly annoying for those of us who watch films in multiple sittings. The resume function should be a complete given in 2009, given that we've had it in every home video format thus far. (The OP's point about DVD and VHS is a fair one, and I am baffled by the anger and sarcasm that surfaced in reply.)

Overall I find this annoyance is more than offset by the upgrade in picture quality offered by BD, but it *is* an annoyance nonetheless.

Resume on VHS wasn't a "feature." VHS was linear magnetic tape, meaning the only reason it "resumed" was because the tape had physically stopped at that location. Because of this, if you wanted to watch a scene before or after the place where you were stopped, you would have to rewind or fast forward, often for far longer than it takes for the people complaining in this thread to use the chapter select to get back to where they are on a Blu-ray.

And, in fact, I'd say the bookmarking feature is actually better than the resume features on DVD players, because you can choose multiple bookmarks and have several handy places to return to. So I find it funny that someone would hold up VHS as an example of a superior "feature," when in fact it was a limitation of the technology that was sometimes useful if you wanted to stop watching and come back later. But it was much less useful if you stopped and wanted to start over.

In fact, wasn't one of the selling points of DVD was that you no longer had to rewind the movie when you were done watching it and that you could jump to any point in the film without waiting for the fast forward or rewind?

Deftones 05-04-09 09:05 PM

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it's funny that this thread came about today. i was reading sound and vision mag from last month today at lunch and there's a letter in there about this issue.

gimmepilotwings 05-04-09 09:09 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 
It appears to be a disc function, rather than a player function (PS3 owner). When I watch Lost they have the season play and it picks up where I left off.

:shrug:

Gizmo 05-04-09 09:13 PM

Re: Is There No Way to Resume Watching a Blu-Ray?
 

Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings (Post 9425180)
It appears to be a disc function, rather than a player function (PS3 owner). When I watch Lost they have the season play and it picks up where I left off.

:shrug:

Certain shows and discs, yes.

DVD Guy ATL 05-04-09 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings (Post 9425180)
It appears to be a disc function, rather than a player function (PS3 owner).

Yeah, I've noticed that some discs will resume after "stop" is hit or you navigate to the main menu, but I don't recall coming across one that resumes after the unit is powered off (Panasonic BD30 here).

Bookmarking is a handy way to catalog and find favorite scenes, but I find it a bit of hassle as a substitute for something that should be so simple and effortless.

I mean, seriously. Machine on. Play. Machine off then back on. Play more. You'd think this wouldn't be rocket science. :shrug:

Blu Man 05-04-09 09:27 PM

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Not all DVD player do that, just some. I'd assume the same goes with Blu Ray. Or not.

DVD Guy ATL 05-04-09 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Man (Post 9425205)
Not all DVD player do that, just some. I'd assume the same goes with Blu Ray. Or not.

I think it's an issue specific to Blu-ray's technology and the lack of a seamless workaround for said issue. After all, resume works like a charm on my BD player -- when I'm watching DVDs.

Michael Corvin 05-04-09 09:47 PM

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I agree, for it being such a high tech device not having a resume standard is a nuisance.


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