Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
06-11-12, 10:58 AM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
You mean "workprint". It's definitely not a "Director's Cut", since Fincher disowned the movie years ago. Either way...yep, watch that one. Improvements all around.
06-11-12, 12:16 PM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
That doesn't do jack to Alien. The mystery of those things was never important to Alien and we're still left w/ some mystery. It had it's own situation that was more relevant to the story. From Prometheus we get side story of intent and purpose...that's it. And we already knew what the xenos were in intent. They sure as hell weren't pets.
06-12-12, 11:42 AM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
Then again, I've always liked the theatrical cut. So take that as you will.
06-12-12, 12:03 PM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
I'm more surprised that the end result is even watchable, let alone good.
When the making-of doc said they were shooting without a final script, and lots of changes were made midway, I was expecting something like Poochy saying he had to go to his home planet.
When the making-of doc said they were shooting without a final script, and lots of changes were made midway, I was expecting something like Poochy saying he had to go to his home planet.
06-12-12, 02:49 PM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
Don't watch Prometheus at all. That's my suggestion. Ugh.
Sorry for the threadcrap. Just saw it last night. Needed to vent. If you want a more dispassionate answer, Prometheus is a prequel that has a lot of beat-you-over-the-head tie-ins with the original Alien. You'll understand a lot more of those references if you watch Alien first.
Also, much like the Star Wars prequels, the main intent of Prometheus is to demystify all of the interesting ambiguities and mysteries about Alien. In the same way that Midichlorians are used to "explain" the Force, or that we learn that Darth Vader was really a petulant teenage douchebag with mommy issues, Prometheus provides a lot of really lame answers to questions about where the alien came from, what the "Space Jockey" is, etc. Watching Prometheus first will really detract from the experience of watching Alien.
Definitely watch Alien and Aliens first. The next two sequels are up to you. (Some fans like them, others hate them.) Prometheus last, if at all.
Prometheus explicitly ties into the first Alien. It does not have any direct connections to the other sequels.
Sorry for the threadcrap. Just saw it last night. Needed to vent. If you want a more dispassionate answer, Prometheus is a prequel that has a lot of beat-you-over-the-head tie-ins with the original Alien. You'll understand a lot more of those references if you watch Alien first.
Also, much like the Star Wars prequels, the main intent of Prometheus is to demystify all of the interesting ambiguities and mysteries about Alien. In the same way that Midichlorians are used to "explain" the Force, or that we learn that Darth Vader was really a petulant teenage douchebag with mommy issues, Prometheus provides a lot of really lame answers to questions about where the alien came from, what the "Space Jockey" is, etc. Watching Prometheus first will really detract from the experience of watching Alien.
Definitely watch Alien and Aliens first. The next two sequels are up to you. (Some fans like them, others hate them.) Prometheus last, if at all.
Prometheus explicitly ties into the first Alien. It does not have any direct connections to the other sequels.
We don't know where
Spoiler:
If I had to speculate on what Prometheus implies about Alien I'd say:
Spoiler:
And besides that the Space Jockey scene in Alien relies on the evocative imagery, atmosphere and the character's perspective. Which Prometheus changes nothing about. It sounds so immature to say that some loosely related knowledge changes that scene. It's the viewers fault for not letting go of their baggage, not the filmmakers.
Not to mention most of the implications Prometheus had aren't far off from speculation fans have been having since Alien and they are basically the musings that Scott had on the DVD commentaries.
Also I don't understand why people keep repeating this, because it's so wrong, but the midichlorians do not explain the force. They only show potential force abilities in a human, but that doesn't really mean that much. The Jedi council didn't care about Anakin's count they tested his actual ability and temperament and initially rejected him. The midichlorians do not control the force in anyway. They are not the source of the force. They are only there as a conduit, which explains why inorganic life cannot use the force. Of all the things to hate in The Phantom Menace this is the most puzzling.
06-12-12, 03:42 PM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
I agree or acknowledge most of what you said until you talked about Star Wars. I'm not a SW fan but I'd rather not think of the prequels if i can.
06-12-12, 04:27 PM
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Re: Alien Anthology - Oct. 26th
Not to mention most of the implications Prometheus had aren't far off from speculation fans have been having since Alien
Also I don't understand why people keep repeating this, because it's so wrong, but the midichlorians do not explain the force. They only show potential force abilities in a human, but that doesn't really mean that much.
[Edit: Sorry for the snark. I've been having this argument on multiple forums.]
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