Gizmo

Its called 'Disney View'. You will learn more about it shortly. It can't be discussed in full detail yet until review copies have arrived.

Giles

what? not 1977 when Close Encounters came out ...

Giles

aw poo...

Gizmo

I pretty much just told you what it is when I quoted that post. But I didn't actually say it. Review copies should show up tomorrow (or maybe today since I live only a few minutes from where they typically get shipped from). It's not mind blowing, but a nice alternative for several films coming out that are like Pinocchio. I would say Nightmare Before Christmas falls in that similar camp as well...but it won't be "Disney Viewed". If you can find the similarities between the two you would have your answer.

Doctorossi

Probably not in the least because it's already been released, yes?




... or are you aware of an impending second dip?

Gizmo

No, not a second dip. I'm just saying something about Pinocchio and Nightmare Before Christmas is similar in the general aspect of things. Other things of that type of ratio might be Disney Viewed when they get announced. From what I've seen of it I don't really care for it since its something I would turn off as I prefer blackness instead of artwork on the sides. They do, however, fit the 'feel' of each scene.

And for those worrying, Disney has not omitted any of the smoking scenes (as some might think they would being very PC nowadays). At least that's what I've heard - I have not seen the entire film yet.

Doctorossi

That's the word I was looking for! Thank you, Gizmo.

Gizmo

No problem. If someone gave me time codes I could confirm tomorrow if they are present or not. Its be at least fifteen years since I've seen the film.

SPRBD

Ooh, Disney made up a fancy name for throwing crap in the right and left borders of movies which were shot in 1.33 or 1.66 so they fill up an HiDef display. Wow! I was just watching the exact same thing, which I can only guess was called "ESPN View", at a sports bar at lunch.

Giles

^ but if you read what I posted it's an video option you can choose, if you want traditional black borders you can choose as such... but we're not supposed to talk about this til the all the reviews start getting put online

Drexl

Well, with TNBC there's not much space there anyway. Those who have overscan may not even see much of the black side bars.

Gizmo

SPRBD pretty much pegged what it is. The good thing is they can be turned OFF if you don't like them - just as I will be doing. They really are quite nice though (actual artwork not CGI crap).

Giles

and it looks like it changes depending on how dark or light the scenes from the movie are.

Gizmo

Yep. Some artwork is tailored around the scene being shown. I think there are 16 in total but I'd have to check my notes to confirm.

Ghostbuster

Is Disney View exclusive to the BD? I was planning on sticking with DVD for traditional animated films, but Disney View sounds like a great feature.

Drexl

They wouldn't do it because the DVD is 4:3 natively. In this case, the frame is 16:9, so they're adding side art in the empty space that can't be used for the film image. For that to work for DVD, they'd have to encode it anamorphically, but that would reduce the resolution of the image.

BTW, have you seen what traditional animation looks like in HD? Far be it from me to tell you what to buy, but I just hope you're not basing it on a preconceived notion that traditional animation doesn't benefit from HD. I remember that attitude being prevalent before they started releasing 2D animated titles.

Raffurar

Yeah, I really don't understand this notion. I suppose if you're talking about modern Saturday morning shows for kids that have 100 colors in their digital palette.. maybe. But animated films were the one thing that made me NEED HD. Many traditionally animated films suffer on DVD because the lines are too thin to be displayed in 480p without jaggedness, and on older interlaced discs... forget about it! They're ruined! Also, all of these frames were timed at 24fps, you need 24p to see the original fluid structure of the animation. Frankly, I can't think of a medium that benefits more from blu-ray than classic animated films.

Ghostbuster

Well, upgrading everything gets expensive. That's the main issue. I have to pick and choose what BDs to buy.

PerryD

I wonder if Disney view is just a separate encode? Or does blu-ray support this feature with native 4x3?

Gizmo

Its done using Java - not a separate encode. It can be turned ON/OFF witha click of a button (or at least that's what I've been told). Copies should be arriving today so you will probably see some reviews this weekend.

Unlike Sleeping Beauty, this will be packaged in the 3 Disc Blu-ray case - like Narnia 2, Wall-E 3 discers.

The Valeyard

The "Disney View" isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Glad it's an option and not forced. Can't wait to pick this up. Pinocchio is one of my favorites.

bookcase3

It seems they always change the packaging of the Platinum releases right after issuing the first one. They did this when Snow White SD was first released in one of those fat double-DVD cases. Every release after that was in the regular-size cases with nice slipcovers.

I'm a fan of the 3-discers that Disney uses; I wish I could get one for Sleeping Beauty.

Doctorossi

You know, I could use the very same thing. Anyone know a source for these?

Gizmo

People that may have bought Wall-E, Caspian 3 discers maybe? Some people put them in sleeves instead of there cases. Keep in mind you won't be able to fit Sleeping Beautys slip case over the 3 disc case.

Doctorossi

Especially since it's at the recycling center.