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The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Old 03-16-10, 03:45 PM
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

I have Zombieland Blu-ray, Mint Watched once (Digital copy not included), $17 shipped.

only looking for Black Dynamite, Moon (USA versions only).

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Old 03-22-10, 03:36 PM
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Long Time Gold Trader

For Trade - all Blu Ray:

Princess and the Frog - 1 disc version
Old Dogs - combo pack - gone
One Missed Call
The Bank Job
Doomsday
Disney Nature - Earth
Meet The Robinsons - sealed
College Road Trip
The Signal
Hanna Montana - Best of Both Worlds
Notorious
The Polar Express - sealed, regular version, not 3D
Pirates of the Caribean 1,2 & 3
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Wall E
2012 - 3 disc
Monsters Inc
A Bugs Life
Cars
No Country for Old Men - 1 disc version (sealed)
Ratatouille
Mad Money
Pinocchio
Sleeping Beauty
Benjamin Button
The Day The Earth Stood Still - remake w/original 1951 film
Batman: The Dark Knight (BB Batman Head) - sealed
Final Destination 4 w/3D glasses

Looking for the following on Blu Ray:

Ninja Assasin
Rome
The Blind Side
Supernatural season 4
Superman Doomsday - animated
2012 - 3/4 disc?? Target exclusive w/ discovery special

Can't remember everything I want so make a offer...anime OK...porn...not so much

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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Received The Stepfather from Gizmo very quickly, thanks!
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

I have Black Christmas & Deathproof for trade.

Wants are in my sig.

Long time Gold Trader plus I am awesome.

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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Prices include shipping to the US.

Family Guy: Dark Side(w/slipcover, watched once) - $15
Italian Job (opened, never watched) - $7
National Treasure(still sealed) - $12

Buy all 3 for $30 shipped

Would trade for Pixar Short Films(slipcover must be in excellent condition)

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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

I have the following available:

Have:

Blu-Ray:
South Park - 13th Season (sealed w/xbox live code inside)
Bride Wars (sealed w/digital copy)
Battle For Terra (sealed)
The Descent
Payback - Straight Up: The Director's Cut
Underdog
Hellboy
Dark City (sealed w/Digital Copy)
Hannah Montana: Best of Both Worlds (sealed)
Open Season


Wants:
Some titles I'm interested in (but open to any offers for titles I don't have (see list in signature):
Blu-Ray:
Tudors - Season 3
Breaking Bad - Seasons 1, 2
Paycheck
Red Cliff International Version - Part I & Part II
Zombieland
XIII
Last Holiday
Flawless
Cliffhanger
Baby on Board
other offers


DVDs:
Greek: Chapter IV
In Plain Sight - Seasons 1,2
The Nanny - The Complete Third Season
Andy Barker, P.I.
Brotherhood: Final Season

HD-DVD:
Brotherhood of the Wolf (HD-DVD)
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Shipping is $3 for the first disc and $1 for each additional within the continental USA (Alaska, Hawaii and Canada are extra). I ship First Class mail with Delivery Confirmation. Paypal accepted. All used discs are in mint condition. All new discs are shrinkwrapped/factory sealed.


Blu-ray
2001 - A Space Odyssey (new) $8
Casino Royale Collector's Edition (new) $11
Cell 2 (new) $8
Chocolate (new) $11
Doctor Who: Planet of the Dead (new) $8
Gremlins (new) $10
No Country for Old Men (single disc) $9
Rock'N'Rolla (new) $9
Tell No One $11
There Will Be Blood (new) $10


HD DVD
House of Wax (has black & white photocopied cover) $1
Matrix Revolutions (has black & white photocopied cover) $3
Troy (has black & white photocopied cover) $1
V for Vendetta (has black & white photocopied cover) $2

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Old 04-12-10, 12:54 AM
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Hello! I've got the following Blu Rays for sale, or trade:

Toy Story - 2 Disc Blu Ray/DVD Special Edition. With DVD Games, and Free Ticket to Toy Story 3. SEALED w/Slipcase. $18 Shipped

Toy Story 2 - 2 Disc Blu Ray/DVD Special Edition. DVD Games, and Free Ticket to Toy Story 3. SEALED w/Slipcase. $18 Shipped


Wants BLU:

Wizard of Oz
The General
Near Dark
Rambo
Hellraiser
In The Loop
Hurt Locker
Hellboy 2
The Omen (original)
Breaking Bad

Make a crazy offer. Paypal, if purchasing. I ship super fast. Prices include media mail shipping. +5 Good Trader. PM or email unbreakable1221 @ yahoo.
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

My Rules:
* All titles include First Class Shipping. If too heavy (i.e. 3/4 or more typically) they will go out via Medial Mail. Priority Mail upgrade is extra. All go out with Delivery Confirmation and if you want that #, PM me after you pay.
* I ship 4 days a week.
* I only ship within the USA (unless you spend $50 or more).
* My Want list is at the bottom and that is all I want.
* I accept Payment via Paypal

Blu-ray:
Dark City $10 ShippeD
I Love You, Beth Cooper (Sealed) $13 Shipped
Risky Business $10 Shipped
Rest Stop (SEALED) $8 Shipped
Rest Stop 2 (SEALED) $8 Shipped

TV Blu-rays:
Six Degrees Could Change the World $10 Shipped
Crash Season 1 $21 Shipped
Dexter Seasons 1/2/3 $85 Shipped
Heroes Season 1 $35 Shipped
Heroes Season 2 $35 Shipped
Heroes Season 3 $40 Shipped
- or $100 Shipped for all 3

2 Disc BD Cases - $4 for 1, $7 for 2 $9 for 3 etc.

HD DVD Imports/Rarities
Alone in the Dark (German; Sealed) $13
Death at a Funeral (with bonus American custom cover art) $17
Led Zeppelin (UK Import) $10
Pans Labrynth (Limited Edition 5 Disc set, 4 DVDs in Pal. HD DVD is not DNR'ed like the American release. Few small knicks in cardboard thanks to Amazon, no Englsh Subs/Audio) $46
CES 2008 DTS Demo Disc (Has Newline DTS tracks for titles that never came out on HD DVD, The Who, Pixies) $8

Forbidden Planet Tin with sealed Forbidden Planet HD DVD - Please see picture.

- - No dents/marks that I can see. Everything that came inside the tin is still sealed or untouched (I literally just took the FB HD DVD out of the case and that's it).
$40 shipped via Media Mail (well packaged, of course)

HD DVD: (harder to find Domestic titles)
Bullitt (Sealed) $7
Blade Runner $12
Battlestar Galactica Season 1 $12
The Cowboys (Sealed) $8
Fast Times at Ridgemont High $9
The Host (Sealed) $9
Relentless Enemies $8
Planet Earth (with Slip Cover) $17 Shipped

HD DVD Domestics
1 for $6
2 for $11,
3 for $15 etc. (Prices are SHIPPED)
Will give better deal the more you buy (i.e. over 3)

300 (Non-Combo) $6
Aeon Flux $6
A Scanner Darkly $6
Alexander: Directors Cut (Sealed)
The Aviator (Canadian; Sealed) $6
Born on the 4th of July $6
Backdraft (sealed)
Brokeback Mountain (Combo; Sealed) $6
Black Snake Moan (Sealed) $6
Breach (Sealed) $6
Bourne Identity $6
Corpse Bride $6
Children of Men (Sealed) $6
Disturbia $6
Doom (Sealed) $6
Dreamgirls (e-rental; 2 Discs) $6
Dukes of Hazzard $6
The Dirty Dozen (Sealed) $6
Dantes Peak (Sealed; Canadian) $6
Evening (Combo; Sealed) $6
Field of Dreams $6
Fletch $6
Failure to Launch (Sealed) $6
Freedom Writer (Sealed) $6
The Fugitive (VC1 Encode) (Sealed) $6
Flags of our Fathers $6
The Fast and The Furious Trilogy (all 3; 1 and 2 sealed) $15
Firewall $6
The Getaway (Original, Sealed) $6
The Hurricane (Sealed; Canadian) $6
Hollywood Land (Sealed; Combo) $6
In the Valley of Elah (Sealed; Combo) $6
Inside Man $6
Jarhead (Sealed, more features than the Blu-ray release) $6
Justice League $6
Lethal Weapon 1 $6
Lethal Weapon 2 $6
Miami Vice (Sealed; Combo) $6
King Kong $6
A Mighty Heart (Sealed) $6
Mr. Beans Holiday (Combo) $6
Meet Joe Black (Sealed) $6
Mercury Rising (Canadian; Sealed $6
Nacho Libre (Sealed) $6
Nutty Professor (Sealed) $6
Nutty Professor II (Sealed; Canadian) $6
Norbit $6
Out of Sight $6
The Perfect Storm $6
Patch Adams $6
P2 $6
Rain in the Mountains $6
Ray (Sealed) $6
The River (Canadian; Sealed) $6
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow $6
Smokey and the Bandit (Sealed) $6
Scent of a Woman (Sealed) $6
Seabiscuit (Sealed) $6
Shooter $6
Serenity $6
Spartacus (Sealed) $6
Syriana (Sealed) $6
Shrek the Third) $6
The Searchers (Sealed) $6
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow $6
Smokey and the Bandit (Sealed) $6
Scent of a Woman (Sealed) $6
Traffic (printed out cover) $6
Troy: Directors Cut (Sealed) $6
Talk to Me (Combo; Sealed) $6
Transformers (UPC cut out of slip) $6
Things We Lost in the Fire (Sealed) $6
Unleashed (Sealed) $6
U-571 (Sealed) $6
Van Helsing $6
The Watcher $6
The War (Canadian; Sealed) $6
We Were Soldiers $6
Wyatt Earp $6

- -Also have a dozen empty HD DVD cases. PM for a price if you buy other title. - -

DVDs:
Reservoir Dogs (Gas Can edition) $11
The Dark Crystal Collectors Edition $12
Napoleon Dynamite (with Slip Cover) $5
American Pie 2 $5
American Pie 3 (Wedding) $5
American Pie: Band Camp (with Slip Cover) $5
American Pie: Naked Mile (with Slip Cover) $5
Deadlands 2 (Sealed, OOP) $10
Me, Myself and Irene $5
Marie and Bruce $5
Strangers with Candy $5

Donnie Darko Tin (with necklace; Hot Topic Exclusive; few small dings) $12 (no DVD)
X-Men III Tin (with reprint of X-Men #1, sealed trading cards) $12


Wants:
Goodfellas (Digibook Release only) Blu-ray
Breaking Bad Season 1 Blu-ray
Army of Darkness Blu-ray
King Kong (must have Slip Cover) Blu-ray
An American Werewolf Blu-ray
House of the Devil Blu-ray
European Digibooks Blu-ray
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Blu-ray
Jewel - The Essential Songbook Blu-ray
NOVA: Becoming Human Blu-ray
Star Trek (Either collection of movies) Blu-ray
Dune HD DVD
A Christmas Story HD DVD
Bandslam DVD
Melrose Place (any season) DVD
90210 'Original' (any season except 1 and 2) DVD
- - That's it!
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

I have a copy of The Godfather for sell. It does not have the Sapphire cover though. It has the Blockbuster rental cover. Looks like the DVD single disc cover. Black Spine, has Brando on the cover in a sepia tone. Disc is exactly the same as the Sapphire release.

$15 shipped via Paypal gift for it.

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Old 06-24-10, 08:39 AM
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Long-time gold trader. All prices include shipping in the USA (only)

Pierrot le fou - Criterion BD (OOP) (SEALED) $25

The Rambo Trilogy BD (SEALED) $20

Enchanted BD $13

PM or email if interested.
Old 06-24-10, 09:01 PM
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

- All items are shipped First Class with Delivery Confirmation

- Shipping is included in pricing


DVD
Batman: The Complete Animated Series - Open / Watched once - $130

Blu-ray's for Sale

300 (non-digibook) - $10
Spiderman 3 - $10
21 (bilingual) - $10
Appaloosa - $10
Alien Vs. Predator - $10
Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem - $10
Be Kind Rewind - $10
Doomsday - $10
Gangs of New York (1st Pressing) - $10
True Romance - $10


Generation Kill - $39

John Adams - $30

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - The Complete First Season - $15

Life - BBC Version - Imported from UK - (DOES NOT PLAY ON US PS3) - $42

Weeds:Seasons 1-4 - $50


(more to be added later...)

Blu-ray's Wanted

I will buy these as well, for the right price. Thanks!

Yojimbo/Sanjuro Criterion Set (HIGH WANT)
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later
Carlito's Way
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Fight Club
The Green Mile (digibook)
Iron Monkey
Hot Rod
House of 1000 Corpses
King Arthur
The Legend of the Drunken Master
Mortal Kombat (Canadian)
Midnight Express (digibook)
North by Northwest (digibook)
The Legend of the Drunken Master
Raging Bull
The Rundown
Serenity
Signs
Snatch
Tommy Boy
Unbreakable
Walk the Line
War of the Worlds
Willy Wonka (digibook)
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

I have the following for trade, mostly looking for my wants in my sig.

Blu-rays FOR TRADE
Pinocchio: 2-Disc Platinum Edition (Sealed)
The Crazies (2010) w/ slipcase
Evangellion: You Are Not Alone
The Hangover (w/slipcase)
Cabin Fever (Sealed)
Quantum of Solace (Sealed)
Old 08-06-10, 11:51 AM
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Looking for the LOTR trilogy for around $40 shipped. If anyone has any extras (I'm sure there were several DVDTalkers that purchased multiples during the Fry's sale).
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I have a opened copy of Iron Man 2 on Blu Ray/DVD. It does not have the slipcover.

Looking to get $18 shipped.

Payment via Paypal gift or Amazon Gift card only.

Or will trade for one of the following:

The Maltese Falcon
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Charade - Criterion
King Kong (1933)
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

I have both seasons of The Sarah Conner Chronicles to trade. In perfect condition. Wants are in my sig. Long time Gold Trader. Plus I'm awesome
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Blu for trade - Gold trader:

have~

Rambo 1-4 (1-3 set + 4 individual)
Sin City (Canadian)
Casino Royale (original)
LOTR digital copies

wants~

Grindhouse set
Black Dynamite
Psycho (UK)
Gran Torino
Dirty Harry/Magnum Force
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

New TV inbound so I'm looking to pick up some 3D discs. If anyone has any for sale, please PM me. All I have so far is Christmas Carol and the Shrek disc which is coming with the starter pack.
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FS: Valhalla Rising Region B Locked Blu-ray



Comes with slipcase. Region B only. Like New condition.

$14 shipped 1st/tracking - US only. PM if interested.
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Re: The Official HDM Disc Sale/Trade Thread #4

Updated list FT:

Toshiba HD-D3 (Mint w/latest firmware and all original packaging. Original box has UPC removed for rebate purposes).

Toshiba HD-A1 (Mint w/latest firmware and all original packaging.)

Poltergeist BD (non-digibook Sealed) looking to trade for digibook version (will accept open/mint)

Sleeping Beauty BD w/Slipcover and Best Buy exclusive alarm clock (Sealed)
Otis BD (Sealed)
Beverly Hills Chihuahua BD
Basic Instinct 2 BD
NIN Live: Beside You in Time (BD sampler/Sealed)

Backdraft (Sealed) HD-DVD
Stardust (Sealed) HD-DVD
Serenity (Sealed) HD-DVD
Blazing Saddles (Sealed) HD-DVD
Caddyshack (Sealed) HD-DVD
Daylight (Sealed) HD-DVD
Transformers (Sealed) HD-DVD
Timecop (Sealed) HD-DVD
Bourne Identity (From A-35) (Sealed) HD-DVD

Wanted (Format neutral):

Apollo 13 (HD-DVD)
Pretty much anything I haven't watched yet, so make an offer.

Will combine items when appropriate.

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I have all 3 seasons of Mad Men on Blu Ray. All 3 seasons are opened but never watched. In mint condition. Each season is $25 on Amazon right now so this is a pretty good deal.

Paypal preferred. $40 shipped
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All discs are in mint condition

I will consider all offers, let me know everything you have for trade. Don't be suprised if i have what you are offering, because i have a lot of movies. pm only please

Criterions (Will only trade for other criterions or steelbooks)
- Merry Christmas Mr. Laurence
- chungking express (sealed) OOP
- The Secret of the Grain (sealed)

STEELBOOK Haves (will only trade for other steelbooks)
- Snow white (sealed) (case only)
- UP (sealed) (case only)
- Lord of the rings trilogy (sealed) (case only)

Blus for trade
- RESIDENT EVIL AFTERLIFE 3D-Blu
- Zodiac (in blockbuster case)
- The Reaping (sealed)
- The Informant (rental copy)
- almost famous (uk version) (region ABC)
- Whiteout (no dc)
- family guy something something
- Hellhoy 2 w/slipcover
- Death Race (no DC)
- Nip tuck season 4
- Watchmen Directors cut w/ slipcover
- two girls and a guy
- a serious man
- paranormal activity (sealed)
- spider man 3 (1 disc)
- Saw VI
- Race to witch mountain
- thats entertainment trilogy (sealed)
- The Matrix (disc only) (from set)
- Batman anthology (uk version) (works in region A)
- Fired Up
- Resident Evil 2,3
- Resident Evil Degeneration
- year one
- Michael clayton
- Vanentines day (no dc)
- W.
- S.w.a.t.
- What happens in vegas
- Snow White (sealed) w/slipcover
- tropic thunder
- Wall-E 3 disc w/slipcover
- Brothers Bloom
- Whatever Works
- coco before channel
- Goodfellas (sealed)
- master and commander
- weeds season 5 (sealed)
- Cars 2 disc
- Miss March w/ slipcover and DC
- Cop out (no DC)

Criterion Wants
- The Third Man
- gimme shelter
- Fish Tank

Wants
- Machete
- Dispicable Me
- Wall Street 2
- Centurion
- zombieland shut up or nut up edition
- Modern Family season 1
- Fringe season 2
- Avatar (new version)
- Cyrus
- Greenberg
- the kids are alright
- Road to Perdition
- The League season 1
- Grindhouse (SE)
- Oceans
- Man with no name trilogy
- The Losers
- scrubs season 8
- lie to me season 1
- tmnt collection
- dirty harry collection
- Steelbooks
- book of Eli
- D.O.A.
- Shutter Island
- Knight and Day
- Alter Bridge live in amsterdam (High Want)
- no country for old men 2 disc
- chasing amy
- watchmen ultimate
- iron man
- Pirate Radio
- Board to death season 1
- bad santa
- Into The Wild
- Strange Wilderness
- Never let me go
- Mission Impossible 3
- Conviction
- mean girls
- 10 things i hate aout you
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Longtime gold trader. All prices include shipping to the US with tracking number. I may ship to Canada. All are in very good-excellent condition and bought from US store/retailer unless noted. Minimum purchase is $10 or 2 slipcovers. Buy 2 Blu-ray, save $2. Paypal only with fees paid by buyer. Send me a PM if you want to buy or have something from my want list.


DVD

City of God - $7
Glee: The Complete First Season (new) - $20
King Kong: Peter Jackson's Production Diaries (new) - $9
Modern Family: The Complete First Season (new) - $20
The Odd Couple (The Centennial Collection) new - $17
Titanic (Three-Disc Special Collector's Edition) - $28
Transformers (Target exlcusive transforming case and empty gift card) (new) - $35
Walt Disney Treasures - Mickey Mouse in Living Color Volume Two (new) - $24 or both tins for only $45
Walt Disney Treasures - Tomorrow Land: Disney in Space and Beyond (new) - $24 or both tins for only $45


Blu-ray

An American in Paris (new) - $12
Bambi (Blue-ray & DVD Diamond Edition) (new) - $14
Beauty and the Beast (3 disc Diamond Edition) (new) - $20
Beetlejuice (new) - $16
Blazing Saddles (new) - $8
Braveheart (new) - $17
Broken Embraces (new) - $17
Cars (with movie ticket for Cars 2, Blu-ray+DVD) (new) - $20
Escape From L.A. (new) - $18
Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle (new) - $10
Mad Men: Season One (new) - $20 or both for only $35
Mad Men: Season Two (new) - $20 or both for only $35
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation (new) - $15
Once upon a Time in America (new) - $16
Silverado (new) - $30
Smallville: The Complete Sixth Season (new) - $26
Superbad (new) - $10
Supernatural - The Complete First Season (new) - $26 or all for only $70
Supernatural - The Complete Third Season (new) - $26 or all for only $70
Supernatural: The Complete Fourth Season (new) - $26 or all for only $70
Tangled (Four-Disc Combo: Blu-ray 3D, Blu-ray, DVD, Digital Copy) - $25
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (new) - $8
The African Queen (new) - $18
The Holiday - $9
The Maltese Falcon (new) - $15
The Prestige - $10
The Rock - $12
The Shining (new) - $15
The White Ribbon (new) - $17
The Wizard of Oz (Three-Disc Emerald Edition) (new) - $22
Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen (no disc 2) - $8
True Romance (new) - $12
Up (Best Buy exclusive steelbook case only, has 3 minor dings) - $19

Blu-ray Slipcovers - must buy at least 2 @ $4 each

2 Fast 2 Furious
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
G-Force
Gladiator
Gone with the Wind (gold Academy Awards)
Fast and Furious
Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay (flat)
Monsters, Inc.
The Fast and the Furious
X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Digital Copies

Back to the Future trilogy - $14

Want List (must be new or like new)

Home Alone Collection
Inglourious Basterds gold slipcover only
It's A Wonderful Life with slipcover
Ratatouille with slipcover
Sex Drive slipcover only
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift slipcover only
The Story of India
The Town (Extended Cut)
Training Day gold slipcover only

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