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Gizmo 11-10-08 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9063768)
They're releasing the all-time most requested Criterion on blu-ray so the turnout probably has to be huge for them to continue.

Bottle Rocket? Its been heavily requested and will probably sell the best out of the bunch (being a bit more mainstream) but I think a title like Brazil would sell a bit better.

Drexl 11-10-08 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9064234)
Bottle Rocket is the most requested Criterion title of all time!?! Why?

That was my guess because it's from Criterion "regular" Wes Anderson and the 1998 DVD must be lackluster by today's standards. I don't think he was considering titles that were already released (like The Third Man) or that Criterion probably couldn't license.

I suppose he could have meant Chungking Express though.

PopcornTreeCt 11-10-08 09:43 PM

Of course it's Bottle Rocket. How can anyone deny that it's the single most requested title? I think someone from Criterion confirmed that it was. I'm not talking about what's already been released by Criterion.

I can't see Brazil being the most requested Blu-ray. But that's just me.

Supermallet 11-10-08 09:50 PM

I'm honestly shocked that Bottle Rocket is the most requested title Criterion has yet to release, given how utterly embryonic it is compared to all of Wes Anderson's other movies. And I'm especially shocked given how many truly great films haven't gotten the Criterion treatment.

Gizmo 11-10-08 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9064372)
Of course it's Bottle Rocket. How can anyone deny that it's the single most requested title? I think someone from Criterion confirmed that it was. I'm not talking about what's already been released by Criterion.

I can't see Brazil being the most requested Blu-ray. But that's just me.

Mallrats?

While I like Bottle Rocket I would much rather have Rushmore, Royal Tennebaums or Life Aquatic over it on Blu-ray right now. It does makes sense though with the DVD coming out.

musick 11-10-08 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9064386)
I'm honestly shocked that Bottle Rocket is the most requested title Criterion has yet to release, given how utterly embryonic it is compared to all of Wes Anderson's other movies. And I'm especially shocked given how many truly great films haven't gotten the Criterion treatment.

his first and his best and that is quite a compliment given his body of work

PopcornTreeCt 11-10-08 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9064386)
I'm honestly shocked that Bottle Rocket is the most requested title Criterion has yet to release, given how utterly embryonic it is compared to all of Wes Anderson's other movies. And I'm especially shocked given how many truly great films haven't gotten the Criterion treatment.

You have to put it into perspective. Not everyone is going to be clamoring for The Mother and the Whore or Vivra Sa Vie. The fans have asked for it ever since Wes Anderson first appeared in the collection. But I also think that Bottle Rocket will come out with very little fanfare. As much as I've wanted to see Criterion release Bottle Rocket I'm more excited about Chungking Express. I'd be more excited if we were getting a Wes Anderson Blu-ray set of all his films on Criterion.

Supermallet 11-10-08 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by musick (Post 9064424)
his first and his best and that is quite a compliment given his body of work

We must have watched different movies, then, because the Bottle Rocket I saw was slightly amusing, but certainly not as good as any subsequent Wes Anderson film.

pro-bassoonist 11-10-08 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9064477)
You have to put it into perspective. Not everyone is going to be clamoring for The Mother and the Whore or Vivra Sa Vie. The fans have asked for it ever since Wes Anderson first appeared in the collection. But I also think that Bottle Rocket will come out with very little fanfare. As much as I've wanted to see Criterion release Bottle Rocket I'm more excited about Chungking Express. I'd be more excited if we were getting a Wes Anderson Blu-ray set of all his films on Criterion.

The fact that on this forum Bottle Rocket has been mentioned quite a few times is hardly an indicator as to how well it would sell, or, how popular of a title it is. Criterion have a much larger base of followers and especially on some of the non-English speaking forums (believe it or not Criterion have just as dedicated of a fan base overseas as they do here) there is a lot of buzz about their upcoming releases. We will have to see how the region-coding will affect sales though.

Pro-B

musick 11-10-08 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9064480)
We must have watched different movies, then, because the Bottle Rocket I saw was slightly amusing, but certainly not as good as any subsequent Wes Anderson film.

no you just have good poor taste :D
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...g-limited.html

PopcornTreeCt 11-10-08 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 9064489)
The fact that on this forum Bottle Rocket has been mentioned quite a few times is hardly an indicator as to how well it would sell, or, how popular of a title it is. Criterion have a much larger base of followers and especially on some of the non-English speaking forums (believe it or not Criterion have just as dedicated of a fan base overseas as they do here) there is a lot of buzz about their upcoming releases. We will have to see how the region-coding will affect sales though.

Pro-B

I hope you're right.

Supermallet 11-11-08 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by musick (Post 9064495)
no you just have good poor taste :D
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...g-limited.html

I definitely enjoyed Darjeeling Limited more than Bottle Rocket, although I would have liked it more had Steely Dan done the score. ;)

Doctorossi 11-11-08 08:21 AM

Wow. I really don't understand the love for Wes Anderson. Blah, IMO. I think Bottle Rocket is one of his better efforts, but that's not saying much.

To each their own, but for me The Third Man, Walkabout and Chungking Express measure about a 9 on the Richter scale, while Bottle Rocket has the impact of a hamster falling off of a park bench.

Zen Peckinpah 11-11-08 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 9064708)
I definitely enjoyed Darjeeling Limited more than Bottle Rocket, although I would have liked it more had Steely Dan done the score. ;)

http://www.observer.com/files/imagec...nockedUp3H.jpg
Steely Dan can gargle my balls.

Hammer99 11-11-08 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 9064951)
Wow. I really don't understand the love for Wes Anderson. Blah, IMO. I think Bottle Rocket is one of his better efforts, but that's not saying much.

To each their own, but for me The Third Man, Walkabout and Chungking Express measure about a 9 on the Richter scale, while Bottle Rocket has the impact of a hamster falling off of a park bench.

I think Wes Anderson is a very, very minor talent compared to a lot of the other directors in the Criterion catalog... and I agree that Bottle Rocket is by far the weakest of the first wave of Criterion BDs. But I'm getting it cause it's still pretty good lol.

Richard Malloy 11-11-08 03:33 PM

A bit odd that I've yet to find a single review of any of the new Criterion Blu-rays, including those released today. Anybody have any better luck?

Oh, and "Rushmore" and "Bottle Rocket" are the best Wes. Progressively diminishing returns from each Anderson film that follows.

Doctorossi 11-11-08 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Malloy (Post 9066007)
A bit odd that I've yet to find a single review of any of the new Criterion Blu-rays, including those released today.

Indeed. I'm desperate for some details/verdicts on The Third Man and Chungking Express. Wha...? Where...?

Maybe it's because they're not released today, but the 18th. ;)

Adam Tyner 11-11-08 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Malloy (Post 9066007)
A bit odd that I've yet to find a single review of any of the new Criterion Blu-rays, including those released today. Anybody have any better luck?

They've shuffled the release dates around a bit, and the first of them aren't due until next Tuesday. As far as I know, they haven't sent out review copies yet.

As far as I know, The Third Man, The Man Who Fell to Earth, and The Last Emperor are slated for next Tuesday with Bottle Rocket following a week later.

Richard Malloy 11-11-08 03:56 PM

Ah, right you are! Still... looking forward to some reviews. :)

Gizmo 11-11-08 03:57 PM

I'm more interested to see how Criterion will be packaging these. Ive heard numerous different scanarios from cardboard cases, to normal BD cases, to DVD sizes cases....

Mr. Cinema 11-11-08 04:05 PM

I thought the cases were going to be the size of a BD case, but that they weren't going to use the normal case. So I'm guessing BD sized digipack.

True_Story1011 11-11-08 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9066052)
I'm more interested to see how Criterion will be packaging these. Ive heard numerous different scanarios from cardboard cases, to normal BD cases, to DVD sizes cases....

:up:

The Bus 11-12-08 11:21 AM

I've been waiting for the Criterion Bottle Rocket for almost a decade now. It is still (besides the OT Star Wars trilogy) the only film I have on VHS.

Gizmo 11-12-08 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9067736)
I've been waiting for the Criterion Bottle Rocket for almost a decade now. It is still (besides the OT Star Wars trilogy) the only film I have on VHS.

You know the DVD of Bottle Rocket has been about $5 for a few years now...right?

Giles 11-12-08 01:56 PM

I really hope DVDBeaver gets their screeners and reviews up soon.

GenPion 11-12-08 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9068101)
You know the DVD of Bottle Rocket has been about $5 for a few years now...right?

He was probably holding off to avoid the inevitable double dip. ;)

DthRdrX 11-12-08 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9066052)
I'm more interested to see how Criterion will be packaging these. Ive heard numerous different scanarios from cardboard cases, to normal BD cases, to DVD sizes cases....

I wouldn't be surprised if they try something alittle different from the other studios. Maybe a special case color or similiar.

Drexl 11-12-08 08:24 PM

I thought we had seen pictures of them and they're in normal BD cases.

I certainly wouldn't want DVD-sized cases. It would have been okay if the format started out like that, but now it's too late. We didn't have that problem with DVD; most of the non-standard packaging like digipacks, snappers, thinpaks, boxed sets, even thin cardboard sleeves, were roughly the same height and width of standard Amaray cases.

Shannon Nutt 11-13-08 11:41 AM

Hey guys:

Criterion has bumped the street dates on all November releases.

The Man Who Fell To Earth, Bottle Rocket, The Chungking Express and The Third Man now have a street date of 12/16

The Last Emperor has been bumped to 1/6

:(

munch 11-13-08 11:43 AM

For reals? That makes me sad :(

Shannon Nutt 11-13-08 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by munch (Post 9070016)
For reals? That makes me sad :(

Yep - just got the PR a few minutes ago. Looks like they updated the Criterion website as well:

http://www.criterion.com/asp/coming_soon.asp

Gizmo 11-13-08 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 9070022)
Yep - just got the PR a few minutes ago. Looks like they updated the Criterion website as well:

http://www.criterion.com/asp/coming_soon.asp

This is a huge downer. I was looking forward to Bottle Rocket and even ordered The Man Who Fell From Earth as a blind-buy.

Giles 11-13-08 12:33 PM

well that just fucking sucks - pardon my language. Considering the only I've preordered was 'The Last Emperor'

Brent L 11-14-08 03:10 PM

I just got the following email from Amazon:


Hello from Amazon.com.

We're writing about the order you placed.
Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed
below has changed, and we need to provide you with a new delivery estimate based
on the new release date:

Joseph Cotten (Actor), et al "The Third Man [Blu-ray]" [Blu-ray]
Estimated arrival date: 12/24/2008

PopcornTreeCt 11-14-08 03:17 PM

Every Blu-ray plant must be producing The Dark Knight.

True_Story1011 11-14-08 05:48 PM

How many copies of TDK are exspected to sell? 2m?

Gizmo 11-14-08 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by True_Story1011 (Post 9073167)
How many copies of TDK are exspected to sell? 2m?

It depends on many, many factors.

Iron Man sold 500k from two different sources on release week. TDK will easily sell more.

Will TDK be the title given away this year with purchase of PS3/BD player? If so, it will be scanned and counted as a "sale".

True_Story1011 11-14-08 06:14 PM

What is the highest selling BD so far, is it still '300' or did 'Iron Man' surpass it?

Gizmo 11-14-08 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by True_Story1011 (Post 9073209)
What is the highest selling BD so far, is it still '300' or did 'Iron Man' surpass it?

Iron Man hit 850k last week if that article is beleived to be true...so it surpassed 300 on BD sales (not combined with HD DVD though).

redbill 11-15-08 06:24 AM

that blows. was waiting on my DVDPlanet purchase until tuesday for those...


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