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You tell 'em! The Libruls can take my Blu-Rays when they pry them from my cold dead fingers.

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I'm a Liberal, or as you say "Librul". Can you have someone contact me when you pass so I can keep you to your word on those free Blu-rays? ;)

Actually, on a better note, I don't understand why politics is coming in to play for a DVD/Blu-ray discussion. Let's keep it to the plastic discs heated debates!

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I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about the War on Christmas?

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so wait...blu-ray is at war with christmas too? fuck...

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Now we know why some people don't like it. Wait, never mind.

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I see DVD coexisting with BD in a sort of Coke or Pepsi…Mac or PC type situation…I’m all about BD…but I can still admit that DVD was a helluva format…and it kinda spoiled us…when we had VHS..we took what we could get…if look who’s talking looked like crap…it looked like crap…we could mess with the tv setting…play with tracking (if your VCR didn’t have that annoying auto tracking that was always kind of off) if that didn’t do it…then we were stuck…hardly ever a double dip for some movies…
As a primary SD film format I don’t think it’ll ever die…as long as people “don’t see the point” of true HD then I think the format is pretty safe…as long as you can buy great movie for a couple bucks…come on…..why do Dollar Menus do so well?...a double cheeseburger (or McDouble if you will) from McDonalds can never compare to a real burger…but they sell…because of their value…a buck for a cow with a cracker on each side is pretty fair sale…..DVD is a solid item with good PQ (disregard any Warner Bros dvd from the last year or so) and it’s a no brainer…of course Blu is better….but as long as 15 year old girls go to buy the newest cute boy movie or soccer mom’s go to see Richard Gere hook up with Diane Lane…dvd is safe……but then again I could be wrong…it’s happened before….(circuit city’s DIVX..i was 17…sue me..haha)

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I don't see DVD being totally phased out in the near future. They're so inexpensive to make and therefore sell. I was resistant to Blu-Ray because of its high production costs. But, I gave in after the format war settled and I bought a new HDTV.

Unless Blu-Ray disc manufacturing can come way down along with the cost of the player, DVDs will still be a decent cheap option.

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It all depends really on the quality blu ray is the best form of picture out there and has the best sound for speech and movies but when it comes to music it is more realistic on vinyl for some reason now ive done some test which ive narrowed down to about 50 50.



the blu ray edition of Bruce Springsteen live 2003 sounds better then the vinyl

the vinyl copy of pink floyd the wall 180 gram unused sounds better than blu ray well it did for a while.

The public likes bargains and dvd is the MAINSTREAM phsical format of choice for a good picture quality with cd sound the dvd today is the equivlent of vhs of the 80s and 90s and blu ray is the equivlent of laser disc from the 90s etc.

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well whatever your choice you must admit that having the movie or tv shows on a dvd or blu ray is better than a fucking download or mp3 which is dodgy sound and video quality yet it seems to be the future of entetainment. Ill die fighting before i have a digital movie database over the actual product i can hold in my hand i want a product not a number from a computer.

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I read this week (I think in Sound & Vision magazine) that the guestimate of the life left in the DVD is three years.

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That's about right according to my sources. On May 14th, 2013. So we're right on track. If my sources change the date, I'll provide an update. I'm supposed to go visit them at the zoo later today.

Um...link to the article? Sorry, I can never take stuff like this seriously....

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^ I don't think Sound & Vision magazine have their articles online. I'll have to wait till my local library gets the latest issue in to read it for myself as well. But then this is all conjecture anyway. DVD production costs are probably so low at this point that studios can still continue to make a profit off of the format for many more years to come.

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Fair enough, I'll have to give it a read myself. I was thinking they'll be around for years to come as well, only because of how many DVD players/drive are still in use. I'm sure the percentage is tilted heavily towards DVD right now. And that's of course with me doing zero research, so I could be completely off kilter here.

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Eh, I read somewhere that the Avatar Blu Ray made up 49% of the films home video sales, and that Blu Ray has already surpassed DVD in Japan. I think I read that on "Blu ray.com" awhile back.

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But the BD came with a DVD. Wonder if that factored in those sells. Like people buying it with "with the intention" of going high def with blu ray at some point.

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A weekly perusal of Home Media Magazine, or the BD sales thread on AVS forum, shows Blu-ray maintaining a steady 10% - 15% weekly market share, with a major anomaly around Avatar. Seems like DVD will have longer legs than many expect.

P.S. - Remember the good ol' days when we had those sales threads around here? There was some spirited debate then, but ultimately the acrimony got 'em all locked.

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I have to disagree. I find it MUCH easier to have all my TV shows on my PC's hard drives and use my XBMC to watch them all rather then staring at my shelves for 15 mins deciding what to watch.
As far as sound and video quality go, a 22 min show at 175 mb with 128 kpbs mp3 sound is not dodgy quality. Alot of the TV shows I have only have 192 kpbs ac3 sound which isnt so different from 128 kbps mp3.

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How many HD movies do you think you could put on your hard drive?

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I'm thinking memory sticks and hard drives are the way things are going to go.
They're relatively cheap, re-usable, portable etc. You can buy a 2tb harddrive and put 40+ Blu-ray quality HD movies on there. You can fit many more movies than that since the term HD has such a broad range of quality that can still be defined as HD.

Where I live Blu-ray machines are still $149 for a name brand machine. Around Christmas time there were a few door-crasher machines for $99 if you had a really sharp elbow but other than that, they haven't really dipped below $150.

Unfortunately movies seem to have very little monetary worth. My local video store is selling DVD movies at $2.00 a pop for some decent popular titles and they weren't flying off the shelves. A new release Blu-ray for $26.95 is going to be a tough sell in comparison.

Just like a CD used to have value at one time. Now you can have 1000 songs jammed onto a $20 MP3 player and... so what? It's not worth anything.

I think there's just so much home entertainment and gadgets out there which are free, very cheap and much easier to access that it has just diminished the perceived worth of phyical media.

DVDs will still survive for a while because they are cheap to produce and the players are cheap to make and replace.

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DVDs are being sold at increasingly low prices over here which suggests to me that stores are struggling to move them in the same quantities which they once enjoyed. The space given to Blu ray in-store has also increased, only slightly, but increased nonetheless.

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DVD won't be going anywhere for a while. BD is growing, but at a slow pace.

It's not doing as well as some on this forum have predicted a while back. They haven't taken over 50% of movies sales. DVDs still rule.

I'm pretty sure solid-state is the future of media (be it movies or videogames) - so I don't think BD will ever get the chance for success that DVD has had.

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I have 2 2 tb, 1 1.5 tb, 1 500 gb, 3 750 gb and 1 250 gb, normally mkv hd moivies are around 4gb, so quite a few. I do keep my blu rays though

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You're forgetting the major part of purchasing products in general, which is how a product LOOKS. How a product looks and is packages is a big part of selling a product in the US--if not, the world.

BD is selling well because for one the cases are blue, then let's add lenticular slipcovers for "special editions", and so forth. People like seeing these on their shelves at home and have the blurry point & shoot digital camera pics to prove it.

Consumers don't particularly like SSD drives and having knowledge that several dozen Blu-ray movies are on them, isn't so alluring.

SSD drives are rather nice, but let's also realize SSD drives are not gaining popularity as fast as their magnetic drive ancestors, either.

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I like many of the unique packaging that DVDs and Blu-ray come in but I think I'm preaching to the choir on this site. The average person doesn't really have that much of an emotional attachment to the movies they watch. They're just movies for the sake of entertainment. They don't necessarily want to pay a premium for a Steelbook case or some other fancy package, hence why they are in limited supply.

Do we need a Steelbook case for 27 Dresses? Brooklyn's Finest? Duplicity?
Lord of the Rings, Dark Knight, Star Wars, Evil Dead - Yes, because the limited edition packaging appeals to the hardcore fans of those types of films.

People used to buy albums and CDs because of the whole product. The album cover, the disc art, inserts & photos all made the purchase feel complete but recent trends strongly suggest the music buying youth could care less about that as we've seen CD sales dwindle down to nothing as people jam their MP3 players with thousands of (inferior sounding) songs.

Movies are the next step with loading hundreds of movies onto a harddrive which takes up a very minor amount of space, is easily portable and you can delete and add movies quickly and effortlessly.

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By "solid-state," I thought Coral was referring to a flash card format with one movie per card. I don't know if that could work, since it doesn't really bring anything new besides the smaller form factor. For portables, people are going to want to carry a device with files on it, not a bunch of little cards.