Warner, New Line, Paramount, Universal ... The Studios/Networks Thread - Part 2
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Originally Posted by Jim
I don't think so, but I'm not sure why. I just read on another forum that Sony announced the PS3 will be made 2.0 compliant.
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Originally Posted by Bill Geiger
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...8&postcount=82
I posted that you sold them already as I checked out your auction. Shame you settled for $8 a disc.
I posted that you sold them already as I checked out your auction. Shame you settled for $8 a disc.
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Originally Posted by Peep
Does that mean that the PS3, with its 40-80G hard drive and wireless connectivity (instead of Ethernet), would now be considered 2.0 compliant?
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No, but it could become so.
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1.1 is far more complex than 2.0, and the PS3 has all the hardware necessary to be 2.0. I have every confidence that it will be upgraded.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
1.1 is far more complex than 2.0, and the PS3 has all the hardware necessary to be 2.0. I have every confidence that it will be upgraded.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Well, we'd like to think that but I don't think Sony has every officially confirmed that.
At the Sony booth, they are showcasing two new prototype BD-Live players. The Sapphire 3 and 4 will both be Profile 2.0. Sony also has indicated that the PS3 will get a BD-Live upgrade sometime in the future
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Since I don't quite understand...can someone explain this 1.1 versus 2.0 stuff? I have no clue what either entails or even means.
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Originally Posted by abrg923
Since I don't quite understand...can someone explain this 1.1 versus 2.0 stuff? I have no clue what either entails or even means.
Here's a great rundown:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1186
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Originally Posted by abrg923
Since I don't quite understand...can someone explain this 1.1 versus 2.0 stuff? I have no clue what either entails or even means.
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
OK, I was apparently misinformed. In addition to the internet connectivity and 1 GB of local storage (both of which the PS3 already has), there are additional audio and video decoders that are part of 2.0. So, once the PS3 is updated with those decoders, it will be 2.0 compliant.
1.1 adds decoders for secondary PiP video and audio, plus 256 MB of local storage capability. (PS3 is using the cell processor power in lieu of the additional audio and video decoders, which in this case makes it 1.1 compliant if updated with firmware 2.10.)
2.0 includes those secondary video and audio decoders, a larger 1 GB of local storage capability, and an internet connection. (What he means is that it includes the decoders above but in the PS3's case it is the cell processor that is doing the work of the decoders. The PS3 already has enough storage and the internet capability to be 2.0, it just needs the firmware to be updated so discs can use its capabilities.)
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Originally Posted by darkside
Finished most of my Warner HD DVD to Blu-ray swap and was surprised at how many discs I will keep on HD DVD.
Happy Feet - lossless only on HD DVD
Phantom of the Opera - lossless only on HD DVD
Superman Returns - lossless only on HD DVD
Happy Feet - lossless only on HD DVD
Phantom of the Opera - lossless only on HD DVD
Superman Returns - lossless only on HD DVD
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat
You actually read that incorrectly. Let me explain and hopefully it clear things up:
1.1 adds decoders for secondary PiP video and audio, plus 256 MB of local storage capability. (PS3 is using the cell processor power in lieu of the additional audio and video decoders, which in this case makes it 1.1 compliant if updated with firmware 2.10.)
2.0 includes those secondary video and audio decoders, a larger 1 GB of local storage capability, and an internet connection. (What he means is that it includes the decoders above but in the PS3's case it is the cell processor that is doing the work of the decoders. The PS3 already has enough storage and the internet capability to be 2.0, it just needs the firmware to be updated so discs can use its capabilities.)
1.1 adds decoders for secondary PiP video and audio, plus 256 MB of local storage capability. (PS3 is using the cell processor power in lieu of the additional audio and video decoders, which in this case makes it 1.1 compliant if updated with firmware 2.10.)
2.0 includes those secondary video and audio decoders, a larger 1 GB of local storage capability, and an internet connection. (What he means is that it includes the decoders above but in the PS3's case it is the cell processor that is doing the work of the decoders. The PS3 already has enough storage and the internet capability to be 2.0, it just needs the firmware to be updated so discs can use its capabilities.)
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
Thanks for trying to clarify (and you're right, I did misread it), but that still doesn't answer the question I have, which is, if the only difference between 1.1 and 2.0 is the internet capability and storage space, what does the firmware need to be updated to do that it doesn't already do under 1.1? What is missing to make it 2.0 compliant?
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What does "lossless" mean?
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I've heard numerous times from Sony execs that the PS3 is their flagship BD Player and whatever updates BD will get, the PS3 will get. So, until a final BD Profile comes out, that's probably your best bet.
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Originally Posted by Big Dave
I was asking more along the lines between Universal and Paramount, what % of the total "movie" market share do they own.
Tier 1 studios, who have the majority of titles: Warner Bros, Disney/BV
Tier 2 studios: Paramount/DW, Sony, Universal, Fox
Tier 3 studios: LGF, Weinstein, independents
As we all automatically realized once we heard, WB going Blu was the killing blow. Paramount and Universal aren't small fish and they're not dead in the water, but they control, at very best, 25% of the HDM market. And the truth is, catalogue titles don't matter to most people. Yes, The Searchers is nice but I'd be willing to bet 300 outsold it in the first day or two.
My only hope is that WB does put I Am Legend on HD DVD.
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This was posted on The Digital Bits:
"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."
"One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."
"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."
"One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
This was posted on The Digital Bits:
"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."
"One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."
"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."
"One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
This was posted on The Digital Bits:
"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."
"One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."
"I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering."
"One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they're going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We'll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We'll post more on this as things develop."