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Old 01-04-08, 10:13 PM
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Apple set to ship Macs with Blu-ray support

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Apple Inc. at this month's Macworld Expo will will outline a high-definition video strategy that will see its weight thrown further behind Sony Corp's Blu-ray DVD format as opposed to Toshiba's HD-DVD, according to one Wall Street analyst.

In a report issued to clients early Thursday morning, American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu cited sources who say the Cupertino-based Mac maker, which already occupies a seat on the Blu-ray consortium, is set to begin shipping some of its computers with support for the next-generation DVD format.

"We believe this is a key announcement as current Macs ship with the DVD format and Sony gains a strong ally in Blu-ray," the analyst told clients. He added that Disney, for which Apple chief executive Steve Jobs is a Director, is a firm supporter of Blu-ray, while rival Microsoft Corp. has placed most of its eggs in the HD-DVD basket.

However, Wu hedged his bets somewhat, saying there is "a smaller chance Apple may use a combo Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive to ensure full compatibility and not get involved in the format wars."

Apple, which markets a complete line of HD content creation tools for consumers and professionals, announced in March of 2005 that it had joined Blu-ray Disc Association. Since then, however, the company has observed much of the ongoing battle between Blu-ray and HD-DVD from the sidelines, choosing to remain indifferent in the fight for control of the next-generation high def format.

The Mac maker during the first quarter of 2008 is expected to introduce a significant overhaul to its Mac Pro professional workstations, which are expected to be among the first systems from the company to include drives capable of supporting the Blu-ray format, sources close to AppleInsider and other Apple news publications have said.

Meanwhile, in his report to clients Thursday, Wu also cited sources who indicate that an Apple sub-notebook and iTunes rentals will also take center stage at the upcoming Macworld Expo in San Francisco, set to kick-off with a keynote by Jobs on January 15th.

"We believe Apple will re-enter the sub-notebook market, but this time use NAND flash as primary storage to improve battery life, reliability, and reduce weight," he wrote. "Our sources indicate that the possible names of this new product include 'MacBook mini' or 'MacBook slim'."

On the iTunes front, the analyst said his sources also indicate that Apple will look to aggressively grow this business with digital movie rentals.

"Whether these movies expire based on time and/or usage is unclear to us, but we do believe that rentals are a significant change in its philosophy with its current iTunes download business model," he wrote. "The positive implication from this is that Apple enhances its video experience and makes it more compelling to move and/or stick with the iTunes + iPod + Mac + iPhone + Apple TV ecosystem."

Additionally, Wu said he's also picking up hints of potential smaller announcements related to speed bumps to current Macs and the iPhone, including "an external HDD storage/dock/streaming device that can work with MacBook mini as well as Airport Extreme."

Further down the line, the Wall Street analyst expects that Apple will address two major shortcomings of its Apple TV set-top-box product, mainly that it does not allow for a direct internet connection to access movie and web content, and that it also lacks a "TV tuner."

"Our sources indicate that Apple is working on fixing these weaknesses to make Apple TV a much stronger product," he advised clients. "We are unsure of the timing of these enhancements but believe we will likely see these later in 2008 or perhaps 2009."

The analyst maintained his Buy rating on Apple stock with a price target of $210 per share.
Another nail in the HD-DVD coffin.
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I don't think Apple was that important. I figured they would go Blu-ray even before this announcement. HD DVD was more PC user.
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Hadn't Apple already announced BD support?
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My iMac G5 doesn't support BD (early adopter, yet again), however, this is welcome news. I'd love to watch a BD movie while reading DVDTalk
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Hadn't Apple already announced BD support?
No, they have not. They are a member of the consortium, or whatever it is called. But they've done nothing public.

It should be noted that the above is a rumor. Wait til the 15th for facts. Although everyone believes Apple HAS to announce something about BD/HDDVD. We actually expected it with the launch of Leopard, and that didn't happen.
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dont see this having much impact in anything
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Yeah didn't Apple go out of business like 10 years ago?
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Apple has a major impact on PC technology. Even when they had 3% market share, they were one of the few innovators that other companies would copy. It probably wouldn't make much splash in the movie selling business, but it would for the computer world.
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Long time Mac user here (since 1986) weighing in with an opinion. At this time, it's not a hardware issue. Even if you put a BR drive in a Mac, it's only good for data burning. There is no support for BR movie playback in OS X, and probably won't be until the next version. BR movie playback won't be solved with a minor OS update, and will probably require a major QuickTime upgrade as well
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Blu-ray playback support would be extremely likely to be one of the things announced at this coming Macworld; they won't include drives and leave them crippled. Though knowing Steve I wouldn't be surprised to see him throw a curveball with a dual format drive (though I wouldn't count on that either). It would be nice if they'd add HD-DVD support to the DVD Player app so the Xbox 360 HD-DVD player could be used as well.
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Apple to back HD-DVD???

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Blu-ray playback support would be extremely likely to be one of the things announced at this coming Macworld; they won't include drives and leave them crippled. Though knowing Steve I wouldn't be surprised to see him throw a curveball with a dual format drive (though I wouldn't count on that either). It would be nice if they'd add HD-DVD support to the DVD Player app so the Xbox 360 HD-DVD player could be used as well.
Don't count on Apple to support HD-DVD in light of yesterday's news.

If you haven't heard Warner Bros. has decided to go exclusively Blu-ray starting June 1 and drop HD-DVD completely. They were format neutral until just yesterday.

Apple being a forward-looking company will not see any basis in HD-DVD support in light of Warner's decision.
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Apple already has limited support for HD-DVD through the current version of DVD Studio Pro. DVD SP will write discs in HD-DVD format, and will even write short HD-DVD discs on a standard DVD, which are playable in an HD-DVD drive. They've never made a big deal out of it, and all you can write is movie-only discs (menus were problematic due to the XML formatting used).

Apple has done very well in the last few years by waiting until concepts sort themselves out before bringing a product to the market. Now that BD seems to have broken through as the odd-on favorite, Apple can generate a lot of publicity by supporting it in a big way. And if there's one thing Apple can do, it's generate a lot of publicity.
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Originally Posted by Jon2
Long time Mac user here (since 1986) weighing in with an opinion. At this time, it's not a hardware issue. Even if you put a BR drive in a Mac, it's only good for data burning. There is no support for BR movie playback in OS X, and probably won't be until the next version. BR movie playback won't be solved with a minor OS update, and will probably require a major QuickTime upgrade as well
The hardware is the hard part, no pun intended. Users have to go buy something new. The software can be distributed later today if they want. OSX 10.5.2 in Software Update, bam. Or whatever.

Just hope they do it.
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An announcement will have a disproportionate influence on the public, which only hears headlines.

This weekend they hear headlines that another major studio is BD exlusive.

Next they'll hear that Apple is building BD into their machines.

Headlines like these are what kill a format. 99% of consumers know nothing beyond headlines.

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