Just got a HD DVD player and...
#26
Originally Posted by freshticles
300 hd dvd definitely looks better than the regular dvd, but it's still an odd choice to include in the box. Especially since, more than likely, that'll be the first movie people watch on their new players. I had to explain to about 4 different people that the grain is supposed to be there and yes, hd is much better than regular dvd. If someone didn't know it was supposed to look like that, I could see the players getting a lot of returns.
I recommend renting 30 HD DVD titles and then making a decision versus only watching two of the worst examples for HD "pop" and instant gratification.
But yes, HD is certainly better.
joeblow69,
The reason your TV broadcasts look better is because you're watching pure HD content, with no director's adding digital grain and a bunch of other retarded effects. 300 and at least the first two Bourne movies (because I haven't seen the third one) don't "pop" at you. However, trust me, if you were to compare the two DVD versions with the HD versions, you would notice the difference.
You have a 100" inch viewing area, so therefore you should be more than just 10ft away from the picture. For example, have you ever gone up to a television and almost touched your nose against it, watching a movie? Depending on your room size, you could be doing exactly this.
I don't agree with Josh entirely. I agree the larger television the better when viewing HD content, but there is still a threshhold on the size, the source of the "HD" content, viewing distance, and possibly even the quality of the projector.
I popped in a regular DVD, and was annoyed at how jaggy everything looked...
This tells me you need to decrease your viewing size. But even so, compare what a regular DVD looks like and what your HD DVD movies look like. You certainly won't see the massive amount of artifacts (not noise) which tend to hover around objects and people.
Can your projector do a 65" viewing size? Try that.
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Ok, just wanted to give a follow up here... I got my HDMI cable, and watched a few more regular DVDs, and I think I'm coming around. It looks pretty darn good now! I think my problem might have been I was judging the upconverting power of the DVD player using low-quality porn.
Also, I went back to best buy, and got them to get me in on the free 3 DVD deal they have going on for Toshiba buyers (I can't believe they didn't give me any hassle about that) so now I have Transformers, V for Vendetta and The Fountain to try out. Hopefully those "pop" a little more than the dull movies that came with the A3.
Also, I went back to best buy, and got them to get me in on the free 3 DVD deal they have going on for Toshiba buyers (I can't believe they didn't give me any hassle about that) so now I have Transformers, V for Vendetta and The Fountain to try out. Hopefully those "pop" a little more than the dull movies that came with the A3.
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So I think I finally figured out how to better explain my problem! Even after I got my HDMI cable, some movies still looked really jaggy. I was thinking that was just the way it has to be and I have to live with it. But then...
This weekend, I bought a 24 inch iMac. It's a beautiful machine, with a stunning display. I put one of the problematic DVDs in to see how it'd look there. When viewing it regular size, it looked great. But when I set it to full screen, it looked all jaggy, just like it does on my HDDVD player with projector.
I fiddled around on my mac a bit, and found that if I turn on the DeInterlacer, then the picture suddenly improves when fullscreen 100%! It looks great on my mac now.
So now I'm wondering, is there some setting on the HDDVD player that turns on deinterlacing? Or something like that? Or does that imply that something is still not hooked up right? Help!
This weekend, I bought a 24 inch iMac. It's a beautiful machine, with a stunning display. I put one of the problematic DVDs in to see how it'd look there. When viewing it regular size, it looked great. But when I set it to full screen, it looked all jaggy, just like it does on my HDDVD player with projector.
I fiddled around on my mac a bit, and found that if I turn on the DeInterlacer, then the picture suddenly improves when fullscreen 100%! It looks great on my mac now.
So now I'm wondering, is there some setting on the HDDVD player that turns on deinterlacing? Or something like that? Or does that imply that something is still not hooked up right? Help!
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Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
I know, that is why I put the wink at the end. First time I fired up 300 I wondered what I did wrong, but my buddy said it looked the same at the theater.
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Just set up my A3 this weekend and opened up the included 300 disc to test out the player. I was pleasantly surprised that the disc was a one-sided HD-DVD disc (with disc art) and not a dual-sided combo disc. I was expecting (and fearing) a combo disc since this is what is available at retail. Nonetheless, picture quality was phenomenal. I was impressed from the moment the studio logo appeared.
#31
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Originally Posted by joeblow69
So I think I finally figured out how to better explain my problem! Even after I got my HDMI cable, some movies still looked really jaggy. I was thinking that was just the way it has to be and I have to live with it. But then...
This weekend, I bought a 24 inch iMac. It's a beautiful machine, with a stunning display. I put one of the problematic DVDs in to see how it'd look there. When viewing it regular size, it looked great. But when I set it to full screen, it looked all jaggy, just like it does on my HDDVD player with projector.
I fiddled around on my mac a bit, and found that if I turn on the DeInterlacer, then the picture suddenly improves when fullscreen 100%! It looks great on my mac now.
So now I'm wondering, is there some setting on the HDDVD player that turns on deinterlacing? Or something like that? Or does that imply that something is still not hooked up right? Help!
This weekend, I bought a 24 inch iMac. It's a beautiful machine, with a stunning display. I put one of the problematic DVDs in to see how it'd look there. When viewing it regular size, it looked great. But when I set it to full screen, it looked all jaggy, just like it does on my HDDVD player with projector.
I fiddled around on my mac a bit, and found that if I turn on the DeInterlacer, then the picture suddenly improves when fullscreen 100%! It looks great on my mac now.
So now I'm wondering, is there some setting on the HDDVD player that turns on deinterlacing? Or something like that? Or does that imply that something is still not hooked up right? Help!
I would hazard a guess that you're dealing with poorly flagged DVDs or video based material. If it's a video based source (as opposed to a film), try setting the Picture mode (deinterlacing mode) temporarily to "Video" and see if that doesn't clear up your jaggies/combing/etc.
I run the A2 in 480i and let my projector's Faroudja deinterlace anime, for example, because the A2 never seems to keep locked in correctly and tends to comb like crazy on a lot of anime discs.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
I would hazard a guess that you're dealing with poorly flagged DVDs or video based material. If it's a video based source (as opposed to a film), try setting the Picture mode (deinterlacing mode) temporarily to "Video" and see if that doesn't clear up your jaggies/combing/etc.
#33
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Originally Posted by joeblow69
Well, you're probably right, the videos in question are porn and I'm pretty sure they are shot on video. When you say trying setting the Picture mode to Video, is that a setting on the player, or on my projector?
Last edited by GreenMonkey; 12-17-07 at 04:09 PM.
#34
Originally Posted by Yavin
Just set up my A3 this weekend and opened up the included 300 disc to test out the player. I was pleasantly surprised that the disc was a one-sided HD-DVD disc (with disc art) and not a dual-sided combo disc. I was expecting (and fearing) a combo disc since this is what is available at retail. Nonetheless, picture quality was phenomenal. I was impressed from the moment the studio logo appeared.
And I've never said that about studio logos before.