i'm confused. here's the chart from thedvdwars.com, with bd as blue and hd dvd as black -

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3...ecent30mt3.jpg

according to their history it appears hd dvd hasn't been cheeper on average than bd for about 3 weeks.

Hero's on HD DVD killed the average for a few weeks.

there probably are. the statement i was replying to implied that Blu-ray was the only format with lossless audio and i was simply pointing out that HD DVD also provides lossless audio (though rarely, if ever, PCM tracks, like some Blu-ray releases).

TrueHD and PCM are the same frickin' thing. (unless you are in marketing) Get over yourselves.

it all depends on what you mean. they're the same in that they're both lossless audio and as such, a TrueHD track and a PCM track should sound identical. the difference between the two is merely in the technical details.

Fox is truly stupid if they think BD+ will do anything for them.

I sort of expect there to be some measure that ends up putting something on the player, much like Sony tried to do with music, and it will backfire the same way.

Being in both formats, it doesn't matter a lot, but if they do something that restricts people from playing it on more than one player, or adds soemthing to the player, or something similar, you will find it hurting BD.

No, there are a few titles that include TrueHD (the only one that comes to mind at the moment is "Ghost Rider").

I lean HD-DVD now that I am dual format, and a large part of that is the lesser copy protection - no BD+ B.S. AACS is basically cracked (yes, they can update keys, then they'll just crack it basically the same way again) and I like it that way. Just like DVDs are cracked and as believer in Fair Use I'm glad for that.

DRM is anti-consumer. At best it has nil effect - at worst, it further restricts your use of media and/or causes headaches for honest consumers.

The technical details of BD+ are of course hidden from most people, but from reading descriptions of BD+ online, I'd wager that any crack won't be key-based, it will involve actually replacing portions of the code (either in the disc image or the player itself) with stubs. Sony can't require players to "call home", and even if they did there are still ways around that. Especially with the number of eyes on the problem.

They'll get at it the normal way, by looking at the least secure implementation of the technology and extrapolating information from that to apply to every other implementation. I give it a month, maybe two, before it's permanently cracked.

The fact is that if it's possible to decode something, it's possible to crack it (unless there's a physical hardware incompatibility, and even then there are ways if you want it bad enough).