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Old 06-07-07, 10:23 AM
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HD DVD and BluRay discs on 1080i

i recently bought a Mitsubishi 62' lcd wd-62531 (rear projection) which supports up to 1080i. reading bluray and hddvd support 1080p should i be worried im missing out on picture quality, should I REALLY get a tv to support 1080p?
and anyone know where i can find pictures that compare quality of 1080ivs1080p
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Old 06-07-07, 10:26 AM
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1080p is better to be sure, but 1080i hi-def looks pretty damn good as well.
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I have a Mitsubishi 55" CRT that only goes up to 1080i and my HD DVDs look amazing on it. I have my PS3 hooked up to an LCD that does 1080p because the PS3 goes all the way up to 1080p, whereas the HD-A1 only goes to 1080i, but really, it's not as big of a difference as some people would have you believe. If you're happy with your TV, keep the TV.
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Your eyes are better than mine if you can discern 1080p and 1080i, although I don't have a 65" set. I've seen both and I can't tell the difference.
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I would say that most people cannot tell a difference.
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The difference can't be shown in pictures because it's a temporal difference in how the fields are displayed. It's kind of like asking to see different frame rates in a picture.

Your set is progressive by nature, so anything it displays must be deinterlaced. With 1080i input, the TV is deinterlacing whereas with 1080p it's already deinterlaced. Whether there is a difference depends on how your set does the deinterlacing (some of them downscale to 540p and scale back up to native resolution instead of reconstructing the frames). If it does it properly, there will be no difference with film-based material.
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Originally Posted by neomatrix909
i recently bought a Mitsubishi 62' lcd wd-62531 (rear projection) which supports up to 1080i.
LCD displays are by nature progressive scan. It's not capable of displaying an interlaced field if it wanted to. If the TV manual says that it "supports up to 1080i", all the means is that 1080i is the highest form of input signal that it will accept. However, no matter what you feed into it, the set itself will automatically convert the signal to its one and only native panel resolution, which in this case is 720p.
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I notice a huge difference on my 1080i set compared to DVD or even HD cable sometimes. I plan to upgrade sometime soon, maybe late this year to a 1080p set, but trust me, 1080i BD and HD DVD is damn fine viewing.
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I notice a huge difference on my 1080i set compared to DVD or even HD cable sometimes. I plan to upgrade sometime soon, maybe late this year to a 1080p set, but trust me, 1080i BD and HD DVD is damn fine viewing.
Be wary. I got a Philips 47" HD LCD and it says in BOLD PRINT on the front of the box: 1080p Resolution , but what I found out that means is that, in certain, very specific circumstances it will play a 1080p signal, however for DVD's at least, its max resolution is 1080i despite the blatant advertising to the contrary . Supposedly that's legal ?!? Dunno, not my field. Guess that's kinda the ilk that Credit cards can charge 30% interest, yet you or I could get thrown in jail for it!
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You will be happy with the HD format even in 720p. I recently bought a 52" rear projection LCD and even though its only 720p I have found over the last few weeks that I prefer it over my 1080i rear projection CRT unit that is 46". Better viewing angle, bigger screen and in motion I honestly do not see a big difference from the 1080i set. It did take me some time to get the LCD calibrated to my liking but I ended up making it the centerpiece of my home theater.
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Originally Posted by Drexl
The difference can't be shown in pictures because it's a temporal difference in how the fields are displayed. It's kind of like asking to see different frame rates in a picture.

Your set is progressive by nature, so anything it displays must be deinterlaced. With 1080i input, the TV is deinterlacing whereas with 1080p it's already deinterlaced. Whether there is a difference depends on how your set does the deinterlacing (some of them downscale to 540p and scale back up to native resolution instead of reconstructing the frames). If it does it properly, there will be no difference with film-based material.
A RPTV is NOT progressive by nature. I think the fact it's an LCD rear projection threw you.
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Originally Posted by Councelor
Be wary. I got a Philips 47" HD LCD and it says in BOLD PRINT on the front of the box: 1080p Resolution , but what I found out that means is that, in certain, very specific circumstances it will play a 1080p signal, however for DVD's at least, its max resolution is 1080i despite the blatant advertising to the contrary . Supposedly that's legal ?!? Dunno, not my field. Guess that's kinda the ilk that Credit cards can charge 30% interest, yet you or I could get thrown in jail for it!
Most TVs capable of displaying a 1080p image will only accept said image from select inputs. For my LCD, I can get 1080p only on my HDMI inputs. I can get up to 1080i (which the TV then deinterlaces to 1080p) through component. Have you got your DVD player hooked up by component? That's probably why it won't accept them in 1080p, but chances are it's doing the deinterlacing anyway.
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So, have we figured out if 1080i is better then 720p or the other way around?

Or is it personal prefrance.

I have a Samsung DLP 42".
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Some people demand progressive scan at any cost. I prefer higher resolution, even if it means interlacing. Given the choice, I'd go with 1080i over 720p.
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Originally Posted by FatHead316
So, have we figured out if 1080i is better then 720p or the other way around?

Or is it personal prefrance.

I have a Samsung DLP 42".
I thought that the general rule was to match whatever your display's native resolution to avoid interlacing/deinterlacing when possible?
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Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings
I thought that the general rule was to match whatever your display's native resolution to avoid interlacing/deinterlacing when possible?
Precisely correct. Although, some folks like to supply the display with "as much resolution as possible" even if it will be downscaled. It's just a matter of personal preference really.

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