ATTENTION New Toshiba HD DVD Buyers: Buy your cables from monoprice.com
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Originally Posted by cpgator
If your cables are better, please explain why. And I don't want to hear any more about "MIL-STD" - just a real world explaination(sic).
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Originally Posted by viking99
The short answer is "process control." The fact that you don't want to hear any more about manufacturing standards answers any remaining questions I might have about where you are coming from. I'm out.
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Originally Posted by cpgator
That fact is you are just talking out of your ass and don't know anything at all about the cables.
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My whole HT is practically wired in Monoprice now. I've went through their s-video, optical, coaxial audio, 40-ft component cables, and now their 24awg 30 ft HDMI.
Until someone shows in a DBT that cables matter (and most scientific tests have shown people can't tell any difference between decent properly constructed cables of many sorts), they fall into the same snake oil category as silver cables and astrology - very highly unlikely.
Until someone shows in a DBT that cables matter (and most scientific tests have shown people can't tell any difference between decent properly constructed cables of many sorts), they fall into the same snake oil category as silver cables and astrology - very highly unlikely.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
Until someone shows in a DBT that cables matter (and most scientific tests have shown people can't tell any difference between decent properly constructed cables of many sorts), they fall into the same snake oil category as silver cables and astrology - very highly unlikely.
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Originally Posted by viking99
Yep. I've mentioned industry standards, military standards and process variables with respect to crimping and soldering processes. I've referred to simple continuity and isolation testing in contrast to the long term reliability advantages introduced by robust process controls based upon adhearance to recognized manufacturing standards. I must have made all that stuff up. Monoprice rules!!!
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Originally Posted by mgoblue7
I don't think anyone said that you made that stuff up,
Originally Posted by mgoblue7
Have you done anything to prove that it is inferior to the process control of other cable manufacturer's?
Many things were subsequently suggested to me about monoprice, my knowledge (or lack thereof), the intelligence and knowledge of participants at the AVS forum and, finally, that I was speaking from a strange place and knew nothing about cables. I guess I should admit that it was largely the entertainment value at that point that kept me involved. That, and a continuing desire to help newbies understand that all cables are not created equal.
Originally Posted by mgoblue7
Your response and the use of acronyms comes across as someone trying to use their knowledge as a deterrent to real discussion.
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I purchased a 25' component video cable from Monoprice and have been very happy with it. I have an Xbox 360 that I would like to run a VGA cable out of to my projector (for 1080p). Can anyone recommend a Monoprice cable that would work, or is the Xbox connection proprietary? Possibly some sort of VGA cable extender? I need about a 20' to 25' cable.
--John
--John
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Originally Posted by viking99
You're correct, nobody said I made stuff up. Instead it was stated "That (sic) fact is you are just talking out of your ass and don't know anything at all about the cables." At that point it became pretty obvious the type of person I was conversing with.
Originally Posted by viking99
Of course not, and I never suggested that I had any hard facts and data.
I think those reading your comments regarding Monoprice cables should know that you actually know nothing about them.
Originally Posted by viking99
Neither do those on the other side of this (or most) internet debates (unless they happened to work at the fabrication facility personally).
Originally Posted by viking99
I don't want cheap cables, I want quality cables at reasonable prices."
Originally Posted by viking99
Many things were subsequently suggested to me about monoprice, my knowledge (or lack thereof), the intelligence and knowledge of participants at the AVS forum
Originally Posted by viking99
and, finally, that I was speaking from a strange place and knew nothing about cables. I guess I should admit that it was largely the entertainment value at that point that kept me involved. That, and a continuing desire to help newbies understand that all cables are not created equal.
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For what it's worth, this is the HDMI cable I purchased: http://www.scpcat5e.com/accessories/hdmicables.php <----Part No. 944-6
I wanted to order from Monoprice but I'm trying not to use my credit card until I have my balance back to zero and I didn't want to wait for the cable to arrive. I'm very happy with the cable I purchased, however.
I wanted to order from Monoprice but I'm trying not to use my credit card until I have my balance back to zero and I didn't want to wait for the cable to arrive. I'm very happy with the cable I purchased, however.
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This is nice that there's a reasonable quality site out there for cables at a good price. Monster cables that you find in places like Best Buy are priced to rediculous amounts. It's too bad they don't offer cheapy cables at these kinds of retail markets.
Fortunately I get out of buying an HDMI cable though, I'm just using the cable that came with my Oppo and it works well. If I ever need more cables, I'll go through monoprice.
Fortunately I get out of buying an HDMI cable though, I'm just using the cable that came with my Oppo and it works well. If I ever need more cables, I'll go through monoprice.
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I have a quick HDMI question. My surround sound receiver is loaded with component in's, but no HDMI.
The TV has 1 HDMI in though.
If I use HDMI on my HD-A2, would I still be able to run audio through the current optical cable, into the surround sound? Or would the HDMI cancel that out, and output through the normal TV speakers?
The TV has 1 HDMI in though.
If I use HDMI on my HD-A2, would I still be able to run audio through the current optical cable, into the surround sound? Or would the HDMI cancel that out, and output through the normal TV speakers?
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Originally Posted by stingermck
If I use HDMI on my HD-A2, would I still be able to run audio through the current optical cable, into the surround sound?
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Yes.
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Originally Posted by stingermck
Awesome! Guess I need to check Mono for a good price. Any quick recommendations?
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So I finally convert my parents to HD discs. My dad just picked up a sony 70" 1080p but didn't have any HD content for him and wasn't too crazy about the format war. But I finally talked him into it.
he gets an XA2 at CC since it's on sale for $649. He wants some movies that are only on Blu Ray so he decides to get a BR player too. I ask him to use my reward zone card so I can get some points.
I just checked my statement and it says:
1 BDP-94HD BLURAY/CD PLAYER 999.98
2 8' M1000 HDMI CABLE 439.98
WOW, just wow. The damn salesman talked him into getting $220 HDMI cables. I'm just speechless. He told him he NEEDED this cable to get the most out of his brand new player of course.
I want to order him some $20 monoprice cables and have him return those. That markup is insane. Does anyone know of a website that compares "cheap" generic cables to these so-called "premium" cables cause he doesn't want to listen to me when I tell him he doesn't need it. Even the custom home theater installers (not best buy) he's using to install a bunch of this stuff (he got speakers and a receiver and other crap too) tell him he needs premium cables. They say shit like how are you going to spend over $20k on your home theater and use cheap cables.
Even though it's a small % of what everything costs, I still can't help but try to do my part to stop these insane markups,
he gets an XA2 at CC since it's on sale for $649. He wants some movies that are only on Blu Ray so he decides to get a BR player too. I ask him to use my reward zone card so I can get some points.
I just checked my statement and it says:
1 BDP-94HD BLURAY/CD PLAYER 999.98
2 8' M1000 HDMI CABLE 439.98
WOW, just wow. The damn salesman talked him into getting $220 HDMI cables. I'm just speechless. He told him he NEEDED this cable to get the most out of his brand new player of course.
I want to order him some $20 monoprice cables and have him return those. That markup is insane. Does anyone know of a website that compares "cheap" generic cables to these so-called "premium" cables cause he doesn't want to listen to me when I tell him he doesn't need it. Even the custom home theater installers (not best buy) he's using to install a bunch of this stuff (he got speakers and a receiver and other crap too) tell him he needs premium cables. They say shit like how are you going to spend over $20k on your home theater and use cheap cables.
Even though it's a small % of what everything costs, I still can't help but try to do my part to stop these insane markups,
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I want to order him some $20 monoprice cables and have him return those. That markup is insane. Does anyone know of a website that compares "cheap" generic cables to these so-called "premium" cables cause he doesn't want to listen to me when I tell him he doesn't need it.
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Originally Posted by DVDKrayzie
WOW, just wow. The damn salesman talked him into getting $220 HDMI cables. I'm just speechless. He told him he NEEDED this cable to get the most out of his brand new player of course.
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WOW, just wow. The damn salesman talked him into getting $220 HDMI cables. I'm just speechless. He told him he NEEDED this cable to get the most out of his brand new player of course.
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yea it hurts me too. He won't return them, either. It's like he doesnt care. He spent almost double what I did on my brand new car for his TV so the money doesnt really matter (i think it matters more to me and it's not even my $--go figure), but that's not the point. He wouldn't get a PS3 because it's a game machine and bought that blu ray player for $1000, which I think is pretty dumb too but I can kind of see that because the PS3 is kind of awkward to use with the interface and stupid bluetooth remote.
I think I'm going to buy some monoprice cables, go over there and switch them out one day when he's at work and not tell him about it for a month and see if he says anything. Maybe that's being a little extreme, but actually sounds like kind of a fun experiment to me for some reason.
$220 for 8 FEET HDMI cables is just robbery I think.
I think I'm going to buy some monoprice cables, go over there and switch them out one day when he's at work and not tell him about it for a month and see if he says anything. Maybe that's being a little extreme, but actually sounds like kind of a fun experiment to me for some reason.
$220 for 8 FEET HDMI cables is just robbery I think.
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Originally Posted by DVDKrayzie
yea it hurts me too. He won't return them, either. It's like he doesnt care.