See how a war documentary ABOUT the war in the movie is still related to the movie?

;)

See how a documentary about the director of a movie is still related to the movie? :)

Clearly everyone has the line to be crossed and this is it for me. I could care less about something like this. It's not related to the movie in any way, shape or form. It's a biography on its filmmaker and the only people that will care about it are Scorcese fans. Now if they left off an EPK, deleted scenes, commentary or documentary ABOUT THE MOVIE, that would be a problem. We're buying this for the movie...not for Scorcese's ego.

And clearly, there is an excuse somewhere. We just don't know what it is.

OK fine...but not DIRECTLY. If it had a through-line related to the Departed, maybe. But it doesn't.

Point is...the 2 disc SE DOES have it. The BD and HD-DVD do not.

There are TONS of extras that they COULD have included, but we arent mad about those. We are angry that they didnt include ALL of the ones from the 2 disc SE.

In the end, at least they have extras unlike FOX and MGM, but we can still gripe. ;)

I guess the worry is Warner looking at the sloppy job Fox and Sony are doing with many releases at the $39.99 MSRP and going that direction as well. Hopefully this is an isolated thing and won't happen again. Warner has been very good so far with most of their HD releases, however, I still can't believe Mutiny on the Bounty has such a major audio problem with no replacement offered. I personally consider that a much bigger issue that has never been addressed by Warner.

I can't believe people are bitching about this when Superman The Movie had almost none of the extras from the recent release.

And yet THIS sets of warning signs to people about WB's dedication?!

I had no idea about Superman, but again I don't get it when they loaded up Superman Returns.

I'm still pissed about all the extras left off of Superman: The Movie.

I was pissed about Superman also, but at the time, it was the only one they had done this to. So, we thought it might be a fluke (at least I did).

I wouldn't say Superman had almost none of the extras. If you're comparing it to the original DVD release, it only dropped a few extras, the biggest one being a 30-minute featurette.

But I have the Superman Ultimate Collection DVD set, so I've still got all the extras. The Scorcese on Scorcese extra is something I'm missing out on completely.

Ugh. I was afraid this would happen. Peter is now lending credence to the "PCM is better than TrueHD" crowd.

Personally, I'm not worried about WB's dedication because of one documentary or the Superman issues (which, yes, still pisses me off, too). Two out of fifty or however many titles they have out isn't so terrible.

As for this, though, I don't believe that the documentary was included because of ego (though I obviously don't have any solid proof one way or the other). If that were the case, then Humphrey Bogart, Clark Gable, Vivien Leigh, and others who have gotten career documentaries on their respective WB special editions were also huge egomaniacs (which they might have been, but the point is that they weren't around to dictate and WB still put them on...I think the studio just likes to include these documentaries, which is more than fine by me).

But as you said, we all have our personal feelings as to when it matters that some special feature wasn't carried over. Personally, I would be happy to lose fluffy EPK crap (from the nineties and '00s, that is...some from the 80s and before are entertaining) rather than a feature-length documentary on a major American filmmaker that's tangential to the movie it's paired with.

However, I'm still of the mindset that EVERYTHING should be carried over, whether I personally like it or not.

Read that part. Sounded very scientific. I find the results meaningless personally, but I'm sure many will now start calling the HD DVD versions inferior because of the lower quality TrueHD mixes. :rolleyes:

:up: :lol:

I do think it's how the Toshiba A1 processes it more than anything (just a hunch)... my BD from Amazon is waiting for me at home, can't wait to check it out.

If that is what he heard in a one to one comparison, why take a shot? Is it not possible that the PCM is better on the Departed? It might be a different story on the next title, but I thought it was you that went off on a couple of posters for saying PCM was better than True HD based on different movies. And that in order to get a true measure you would need to compare PCM and True HD on the same title. Maybe that wasn't you though. Peter did the comparison, its his opinion, and his review. You have both formats. Let us know what you think.

Bracke is using an HD-XA2, which has an issue with low bass in comparison to the HD-A1 and HD-XA1. If he wasn't aware of that and hadn't calibrated his audio levels specifically for it, he'll certainly hear a difference between the formats, but it has nothing to do with the audio codec used. It's a player problem that Toshiba needs to correct with firmware.

Zing? We don't know how his machine is calibrated. It sounds like Josh is trying to invalidate Peters opinion by saying he does not know how to properly calibrate his equipment. That is hardly a "zing". -ohbfrank-

I just checked his review. Where does it say he is using an Xa2? I have always been curious as to what his equipment is, but it is not posted in his reviews.

Wow, Buy.com was really on the ball. I ordered this along with another title early Monday morning (because Amazon had apparently sold their initial allotment, and I wanted to make a purchase for that Paypal $15 deal), and it just got here!

I'm not sure what shipping I actually paid for, because the total was $5.36 for both discs (they didn't give me a choice of shipping type at checkout). It seems higher than standard, but not by much.

Thanks!

:shrug: I guess I'm not as anal. I've never had a problem with a DVD I've loaned out. I have three friends I loan them to and two family members (between my gf and I). The one friend has borrowed my Xbox for the past year. It's not a big deal. They're only DVDs.

Everyone looks at me as a rental store. When they come over they ask to borrow a movie and I either laugh or change the subject. Same stories as everyone else. The friends keep the movie for months, let their kids use it as a coaster, lose the outer sleeve, etc. The worst case was when I let my best friend borrow my unopened copy of Mean Girls. It came back over a month later scratched to hell. So I am glad BD does not have combos. Those same friends have already asked to borrow my Blu Rays despite repeated attempts to tell them, "You need a BD player". :) Though it would be nice for traveling etc.

The Bus

Did you take your name from THE Bus, Jerome Bettis? Just curious.

It sounds like some actual mean girls got a hold of it. ;)

Are you saying that the XA2 has lower bass levels than the HD-A1 and HD-XA1, or that the XA2 has the same low bass level problem that the HD-A1 and HD-XA1 have?

That would really be something if it were worse off than those other two.

just be glad yours doesn't show up like this guys from AVS:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2...parted5se9.jpg

The XA2 is worse. Bass levels on the HD-A1 and HD-XA1 require a 10db boost at the receiver. Bass on the XA2 requires approximately 20db.

Received mine from Amazon today and can't wait to check it out. :thumbsup:

WOW, I am really impressed with my blu-ray copy of The Departed. pleasure to watch.

But I will ask this if someone can send me in the right direction since I just got my PS3...

I"m looking for optimal settings for my Westinghouse 32w6 LCD posted somewhere either here or on avs, on my hdmi settings, like color, contrast, backlight, color temp, etc.

Anyone know of a place to find some? ... it does look good as default settings, but I did end up changing my vga input for my 360 hd-dvd addon, so wondering if i need to change anything for my ps3 blu-ray playback?

thanks in advance.

Well, in the end I broke down and bought the HD version of it. But I got it for $.15 after a Amazon coupon and their 10% off deal, so I don't really feel so bad about it.

Has anyone else that ordered from DDD not received their copy yet? I know I chose the cheapest, free shipping but it's been over a week since they shipped it.

It can take from 1-3 weeks with media mail. Literally.

When I use DDD's free shipping, it usually takes about 10 business days after they ship to get it to me.

DVDplanet's free shipping is that way too....I usually only use it if its a title I can wait on.

Media mail is a Post Office concoction. It is very slow, and very cheap. I think first class (normal mail) costs more.

^ For packages over six ounces, Media Mail does, indeed, cost less than First Class. Media Mail is $1.59 for packages of up to one pound and $2.07 for one to two pounds. (I presume that volume shippers get discounts.) So, the old "book rate", now Media Mail, certainly is inexpensive.

Times on Media Mail are hit or miss. At each node in the delivery chain Media Mail packages have the lowest priority and are supposed to be last on the truck, if space is available.

I generally have good luck with MM and get packages in a week or less. But it all depends on where it is being shipped from and where one lives. For those in Hawai'i it can take several weeks to a month.

I never understood the impatience some have with regard to getting DVD shipments. I figure that I'll get it when I get it and that I have plenty of things to watch in the interim. So, I always go with the cheapest shipping option.

[QUOTE=lizardI never understood the impatience some have with regard to getting DVD shipments. I figure that I'll get it when I get it and that I have plenty of things to watch in the interim. So, I always go with the cheapest shipping option.[/QUOTE]

I don't mind waiting, but when it gets over two weeks, I start worrying that the item was lost. I've had to deal with 6 or 7 lost shipments in the past and don't like it.