New article on HD LOTR
Here is an article on possible extras on a future HD LOTR box set:
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/746/746952p1.html Note that a specific format is never mentioned. |
Originally Posted by XavierMike
Note that a specific format is never mentioned. |
I'm not really into extras but I sure would be happy to have this trilogy in HD... the sooner the better.
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I do not really care about new LOTR extras, I just want the extended editions in HD. I would be very disappointed if they only released the theatrical editions in HD.
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Originally Posted by fryinpan1
I do not really care about new LOTR extras, I just want the extended editions in HD. I would be very disappointed if they only released the theatrical editions in HD.
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I'm pretty sure you're gonna see plenty of releases of these movies when the time comes, and I doubt the EE's will be the first ones.
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Originally Posted by matome
I'm pretty sure you're gonna see plenty of releases of these movies when the time comes, and I doubt the EE's will be the first ones.
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While I like the fact that (so far) every release has had unique and interesting extras, I'm getting to the point of fatigue with these. An HD release will make 4 trilogy releases with 4 different sets of extras. I'm still glad that there's no overlap, but it's getting a bit tiring.
It's certainly not going to stop me from buying the HD release. That's right at the top of my 'must have' list. But I'd also like for them to take a deep breath at some point and release a huge uber-edition with all of the extras from the various sets. |
Originally Posted by RoboDad
Actually, what I don't think you'll ever see is a theatrical-only release of the movies, ever again. The extended versions have outsold the theatrical, and the most recent DVD releases indicate that the studio's preferred method will be to include both versions on a single disc via branching.
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Originally Posted by Randy Miller III
the LOTR Extended Editions feature new music and other transitions that would make "seamless" branching next to impossible.
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Originally Posted by matome
I'm pretty sure you're gonna see plenty of releases of these movies when the time comes, and I doubt the EE's will be the first ones.
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Luckily for us, Peter Jackson has shown great restraint in releasing versions of LOTR. When the first EE was sold, he said that it would be the definitive release, and that they would release a box for it later (which they did) instead of making you rebuy the set for just the box. So far, the EE has not been reissued, which is a good sign.
Hopefully we'll get one version of the EE in High Def and that will be the end of it. |
I would still prefer to have a choice of getting the theatrical cuts as well. There are cases where I like the theatrical version better, ie The 40-Year-Old Virgin. I thought Return of the King was way too long theatrically, so the extended doesn't help.
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
So far, the EE has not been reissued, which is a good sign.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=23800 |
Originally Posted by bboisvert
The EE was reissued (along with the theatrical version via branching) this fall:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=23800 |
Originally Posted by joshd2012
I would say that is more of a re-release of the theatrical version, with the EE as an extra
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Luckily for us, Peter Jackson has shown great restraint in releasing versions of LOTR.
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Luckily for us, Peter Jackson has shown great restraint in releasing versions of LOTR. When the first EE was sold, he said that it would be the definitive release, and that they would release a box for it later (which they did) instead of making you rebuy the set for just the box. So far, the EE has not been reissued, which is a good sign.
Hopefully we'll get one version of the EE in High Def and that will be the end of it. |
Originally Posted by bboisvert
I'm not sure I really understand that distinction, but OK... :hscratch:
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Are you serious?? There have already been three versions of these films. PJ is just as greedy a double dipper as the rest.
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I also have to hope that they will, one day, put out an uber HD set with all the special features from the 2-disc theatrical version, the 4-disc extended editions, the recent 2-disc versions (basically, the fly-on-the-wall documentaries) and whatever else they have in store, along with both versions of each movie. It would be nice to have one comprehensive set on my shelves, as opposed to a whole shelf dedicated to LOTR releases.
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
How many versions have you purchased? Which would you say is the best version of the film, and was that version known to consumers when the initial discs came out?
Listen, I love LotR as much as anybody. I think PJ is a genius, and he was clearly the perfect person to bring these novels to life. All that said, he's in it for the cash just like everyone else. I don't understand why some internet fanboys put him up on this altruistic pedestal. If he REALLY cared about not double dipping, then the latest version would have been the FIRST AND ONLY version. They do it to sell discs. I realize it and its cool and I don't feel like I'm getting fucked with each release. Besides all that, I'd bet that NL is the one deciding on the multiple releases, and frankly I'm glad PJ is involved. |
Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
I don't own them, but I'd have to say according to your specifications where all that matters is the film that the latest set with both versions of the film would be the best, and "consumers" (read: internet fans not Joe Average) had no idea of such a release.
Listen, I love LotR as much as anybody. I think PJ is a genius, and he was clearly the perfect person to bring these novels to life. All that said, he's in it for the cash just like everyone else. I don't understand why some internet fanboys put him up on this altruistic pedestal. If he REALLY cared about not double dipping, then the latest version would have been the FIRST AND ONLY version. They do it to sell discs. I realize it and its cool and I don't feel like I'm getting fucked with each release. Besides all that, I'd bet that NL is the one deciding on the multiple releases, and frankly I'm glad PJ is involved. |
That is not what is at issue here.
Originally Posted by joshd2012
Luckily for us, Peter Jackson has shown great restraint in releasing versions of LOTR.
FotR came out in 2001, on DVD in 2002 and has seen three releases. The other two films are more recent, RotK in 2003, seeing DVD in mid 2004. Three releases in less than two years is restraint?? |
Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
That is not what is at issue here.
Is what you said, and as usual, you can't support your opinion (presented as fact) with any evidence. FotR came out in 2001, on DVD in 2002 and has seen three releases. The other two films are more recent, RotK in 2003, seeing DVD in mid 2004. Three releases in less than two years is restraint?? |
Not as big of a fan of the LOTR movies as most here, but would definitely pick these up on HD. Theatrical is fine with me as I have the EEs and have yet to watch them all the way through and the theatricals were a bit too long for me. But I can understand why the big fans would want as much as possible, and on HD these should be reference quality.
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Just give me the EE versions in HD with TrueHD audio and I'm all set. I have yet to watch a single extra on any of them. I have row after row of DVDs that I haven't watched any of the extras on. It's just not my thing and what I want is the best version of the film with the best video and audio quality possible.
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Well I for one would be really bummed if they didnt offer both the Extended and Theatrical versions at some point in time. While I loved the extended editions of TTT and TROTK, I felt the original theatrical version of The Fellowship was much stronger in some areas, especially the entire scene of Borimir's death. It was much better in the standard edition, both the cutting and even the score was better. There were some other parts of the fellowship that I prefered as well but I wont get into a big Fellowship thread.
Ill just say that at least in my book, there is a place for both the theatrical and extended editions. At least give me the Fellowship theatrical and ill be at least somewhat happy! PS.. |
Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
I don't own them, but I'd have to say according to your specifications where all that matters is the film that the latest set with both versions of the film would be the best, and "consumers" (read: internet fans not Joe Average) had no idea of such a release.
Listen, I love LotR as much as anybody. I think PJ is a genius, and he was clearly the perfect person to bring these novels to life. All that said, he's in it for the cash just like everyone else. I don't understand why some internet fanboys put him up on this altruistic pedestal. If he REALLY cared about not double dipping, then the latest version would have been the FIRST AND ONLY version. They do it to sell discs. I realize it and its cool and I don't feel like I'm getting fucked with each release. Besides all that, I'd bet that NL is the one deciding on the multiple releases, and frankly I'm glad PJ is involved. With that being said, He announced that there would be a 4 disc extended version available soon when the original 2 Disc set was released. Is that what a director does when he is only caring about money? The fact that people consider the Extended editions as double dips is absolutly mind boggling and puts us at such odds that I dont think I could ever even understand the logic used to come to such a conclusion. The original theatrical releases and then the follow up 4 disc extended editions are without a doubt the most non double dipping releases ever produced on DVD. I really dont know what more you could ask for in a true special edition of a film then what PJ did for these movies. Another 40+ minutes of actual movie footage, new score, new special effects, new extras, 4 discs, beautiful packaging. What more does one need to do to be able to make a follow up DVD release of a movie worthwhile enough for it not to be considered a BS attempt at trying to make more money? Bottom line is PJ always inteded for there to be an extended version to these films. He knew that the day he started shooting. He was open and honest and told the public that an extended edition was coming even before the 2 disc set was finalized and in stores. Sure doesnt sound like someone who only cares about more money to me. PJ has as much artistic integrity as anyone else in the business right now period. All you need to do is read up on the guy and the choices he has made all throughout his career to see that. To say this guy's bottom line is money is an insult to everything he has done so far and everything he in fact stands for as an artist. Regardless of what some people think, there are people working in the field of motion pictures whose ultimate goal is to make awsome films. Sure the money is nice but it has so little to do with why they do what they do that it is an insult to say otherwise. PJ is one of those people. Sure the 3rd release can be considered double dipping, absolutly! PJ had very little to do with these releases and you can blame New Line much more than PJ for this latest set of releases. PS.. |
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