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Supermallet 05-30-07 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
huh? you're suggesting that extras found on the standard DVD edition are left off of the HiDef version.

No, there are extras on the HD DVD version that are not on the BD version.

QuePaso 05-30-07 05:51 PM

The upcoming re-mastered Fifth Element has a 16-bit PCM track from the old issue and a 20 or 24-bit TrueHD track on the same disc. Sony said on AVS that they are doing it to see what format the consumers want from now on. Could be the same thing going on with 300, higher bit for TrueHD and 16-bit for PCM.

RockStrongo 05-30-07 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by QuePaso
Could be the same thing going on with 300, higher bit for TrueHD and 16-bit for PCM.

I thought both hd-dvd and bd were going to have TrueHD for 300? Has that changed?

The only differences was that the HD-DVD was a combo disc and had IME.

Fandango 05-31-07 01:59 PM

"Lost: The Complete Third Season -- The Unexplored Experience" follows Dec. 11 on DVD and Blu-ray Disc. The 23-episode, seven-disc set comes with a one-on-one with star Matthew Fox, a featurette on "The Others," a documentary chronicling 24 hours in production and a selection of never-before-seen flashbacks. Also included are behind-the-scenes looks at 10 episodes, audio commentaries, deleted scenes and bloopers.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...306e78e56b24e9

Spiky 06-01-07 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by Doughboy
I don't understand the purpose of including both TrueHD and PCM tracks. Aren't they identical once the TrueHD is decoded? I realize dual layer Blu-ray discs have 50GB of space, but there has to be a better way of utilizing it than this.

The purpose is for marketing to Joe Blow.

DVD Josh 06-01-07 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Fandango
"Lost: The Complete Third Season -- The Unexplored Experience" follows Dec. 11 on DVD and Blu-ray Disc. The 23-episode, seven-disc set comes with a one-on-one with star Matthew Fox, a featurette on "The Others," a documentary chronicling 24 hours in production and a selection of never-before-seen flashbacks. Also included are behind-the-scenes looks at 10 episodes, audio commentaries, deleted scenes and bloopers.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...306e78e56b24e9

According BV's statement yesterday, this is an erroneous report and there are NO plans to release LOST on BD at this point.

matome 06-03-07 02:27 PM

Panasonic has released firmware v2.1 for the BD10 and BD10A listing "playability and stability" improvements.

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...bd10/bd10.html

I'm downloading it now, so I haven't tried it yet.

darkside 06-03-07 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by QuePaso
The upcoming re-mastered Fifth Element has a 16-bit PCM track from the old issue and a 20 or 24-bit TrueHD track on the same disc. Sony said on AVS that they are doing it to see what format the consumers want from now on. Could be the same thing going on with 300, higher bit for TrueHD and 16-bit for PCM.

How exactly will they know which one we use?

QuePaso 06-03-07 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by darkside
How exactly will they know which one we use?

There will be a public poll on AVS after the release. Sony has done this many times, which has lead to changes on BD discs due to what the customers want on AVS.

Drexl 06-04-07 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by QuePaso
There will be a public poll on AVS after the release. Sony has done this many times, which has lead to changes on BD discs due to what the customers want on AVS.

While I am definitely in favor of moving to TrueHD over PCM, some people are going to think the process wasn't fair. After all, sure, they would choose TrueHD if it's 24-bit and PCM is 16-bit, but there are people on AVS who want 24-bit PCM. So, while I would be glad to see TrueHD chosen, I just know there are going to be people who swear the PCM track would sound better than the TrueHD track if it was 24-bit.

Supermallet 06-04-07 01:04 AM

I can see why Sony won't offer 24-bit PCM. It's such a space hog. And if Sony goes full steam for TrueHD, then I can only imagine that many more standalone players would suddenly feature TrueHD support. I'm sure there will be people who will argue till their faces turn blue that PCM is incontrovertibly better than TrueHD, but they're the same damn thing, except TrueHD is variable bitrate. Ask any compressionist which they'd rather use, and they'll tell you TrueHD. It'll give you the same sound while leaving more space for picture and extras to exist on the same disc. Why do you think Pirates was able to look so good with 24-bit PCM? Because all the extras except one were on a second disc.

Superman07 06-04-07 06:47 AM

I haven't been following BR all that much, but this sounds like a "new" price cut.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6718145.stm

-$100 which now brings the total to $499.

matome 06-04-07 01:24 PM

The Sony BDP-S1 player will be receiving a firmware update to add DD+ and Dolby TrueHD next week.

Sony press release

There are also links to the new player with pictures.

matome 06-04-07 02:44 PM

Superman Returns is getting remastered with both PCM and TrueHD tracks on the same disc for the pack-in with the new Pioneer BD player, according to blu-ray.com.

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7...rtruehdgd7.png

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1

Mr. Cinema 06-04-07 03:01 PM

Those bastards better release Supes by itself with both tracks.

Mr. Cinema 06-04-07 03:03 PM

A couple of articles posted on AVS mention that Sony is shipping the new BDP-S300 this week to retailers. The manual is available online. On page 48, it lists Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD for audio. At $499, I think I may get this for my standalone player.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS300.pdf

Giles 06-04-07 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
A couple of articles posted on AVS mention that Sony is shipping the new BDP-S300 this week to retailers. The manual is available online. On page 48, it lists Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD for audio. At $499, I think I may get this for my standalone player.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS300.pdf

now if Fox would get it's head out of the sand...

fitprod 06-04-07 04:19 PM

Note:
DTS-HD is not DTS-HD MA

fitprod

Gizmo 06-04-07 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by matome
Superman Returns is getting remastered with both PCM and TrueHD tracks on the same disc for the pack-in with the new Pioneer BD player, according to blu-ray.com.

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7...rtruehdgd7.png

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1

I thought the 5 free ones were different? (Both Pirates, 5th Element, Fantastic Four and Crash)

matome 06-04-07 04:31 PM

These two are coming with the new Pioneer. The new Panasonic is getting the Pirates ones.

Gizmo 06-04-07 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by matome
These two are coming with the new Pioneer. The new Panasonic is getting the Pirates ones.

Gotcha. Got them confused.

Mr. Cinema 06-04-07 05:11 PM

This came from the article:

"This new version of Superman Returns will only be availble with the Pioneer player until sometime after they have sold out, then will replace the current version on shelves for consumers later this year.

Batman Begins will also see Blu-ray release this year with TrueHD and PCM. I'm not sure when you'll see an announcement on it, but they're going to hold off as long as possible to try and get the IME on it. It will come out this year though, with or without IME."

Mr. Cinema 06-04-07 05:12 PM

Circuit City has a release date of 6/20 for the new Sony 300 player.

Arpeggi 06-04-07 07:18 PM

Wow, I might be getting that new Sony at $500. Anyone wants a 20 GB PS3? ;)

Mr. Cinema 06-04-07 08:22 PM

Looks like the BDP-S1 is getting a firmware update soon that will enable it to decode DD+ and Dolby TrueHD. I think it's then safe to assume the BDP-S300 will receive a similar update when it's released. If so, then that'll be my standalone unit. $499 doesn't sound that frightening.

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/30408.html


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