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kvrdave 10-12-06 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Well, when they were talking about that one company that next week is gonna announce.............................wait.........shit. YOU ALMOST GOT ME!!! ;)

:lol:

Ahhh, good stuff.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
you have to pet it. Talk nice to it. Don't you know this by now? :)

I do that already....I guess my A1 is straight then...ill get my fiancee to do it! ;)

digitalfreaknyc 10-12-06 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by kvrdave
:lol:

Ahhh, good stuff.

I was totally fucking with you. Don't take me seriously on that. I don't know anything about an announcement next week. I learned more about the possible switches from people I've talked to offline. To be honest, Amir didn't really comment on it although I was the one that flat-out asked. There were a lot of things said that I wouldn't discuss out on an open forum but that was more about the inner workings and things that went on behind the scenes with HD, BD and the companies involved.

That and the clips from 4 discs that haven't been released yet. ;)

RoboDad 10-12-06 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Since the XA2 is native 1080p and my tv accepts native 1080p, then no upconversion would take place (like with the A1 where the 1080i is upconverted to 1080p by the tv).

Well, technically, there is no upconversion involved, only deinterlacing. So, unless the TV uses a poor grade of deinterlacer, then there will be zero visible difference between a 1080i and 1080p signal.

Still, I can understand your desire to eliminate any unnecessary steps in the video path. And we anxiously await your review of the XA2!

digitalfreaknyc 10-12-06 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
Well, technically, there is no upconversion involved, only deinterlacing. So, unless the TV uses a poor grade of deinterlacer, then there will be zero visible difference between a 1080i and 1080p signal.

Still, I can understand your desire to eliminate any unnecessary steps in the video path. And we anxiously await your review of the XA2!

The A2 will be out in a couple of weeks. The XA2 won't be out until December. It will be a long wait but we'll have the reviews of the A2, Xbox add-on and PS3 to keep us busy.

Interesting. I just realized...The A2 comes out this month. Xbox add-on next month. XA2 in december. Then probably the chinese manufacturers in the next few months of 2007. Very very interesting.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
That and the clips from 4 discs that haven't been released yet. ;)

I bet one of those is HP4....since WB announced it for France already for Dec 5th....I bet we will get the announcement soon for a Dec 5th release or before.

digitalfreaknyc 10-12-06 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I bet one of those is HP4....since WB announced it for France already for Dec 5th....I bet we will get the announcement soon for a Dec 5th release or before.

I'll never tellllllllllllllllllllllll............ ;)

well, ok. maybe i will. they'll all be out by mid-december so it won't matter after that.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
Well, technically, there is no upconversion involved, only deinterlacing. So, unless the TV uses a poor grade of deinterlacer, then there will be zero visible difference between a 1080i and 1080p signal.

True....that makes sense. The tv is the HL-S7178W


Still, I can understand your desire to eliminate any unnecessary steps in the video path. And we anxiously await your review of the XA2!
Yeah, home theater is my only vice so I have to have the latest and greatest. I dont play golf or have a cocaine addiction though its almost as expensive. ;)

joshd2012 10-12-06 01:47 PM

HD DVD Promo Group put out a press release today saying that HD DVD is outselling Blu-Ray 3:1. That's it folks.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...tach_Rates/302

RockStrongo 10-12-06 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
I know some people are going to hate this, but it turns out some people on web forums just shouldn't be trusted.

I dont understand the need for this statement....what are you getting at by saying this??? :confused:

joshd2012 10-12-06 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I dont understand the need for this statement....what are you getting at by saying this??? :confused:

You're right. :( I'll delete.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
I know some people are going to hate this, but it turns out some people on web forums just shouldn't be trusted. HD DVD Promo Group put out a press release today saying that HD DVD is outselling Blu-Ray 3:1. That's it folks.

Also, you didnt state the facts correctly...


During the month of August alone, HD DVD movies outsold all other high definition formats by a factor of nearly three
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061012/sfth049.html?.v=79

I wonder if pre-orders are even a factor in this. I have probably 10-15 preorders already.

kvrdave 10-12-06 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
HD DVD Promo Group put out a press release today saying that HD DVD is outselling Blu-Ray 3:1. That's it folks.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...tach_Rates/302

What amazes me is that they go on to say that F&F Tokyo Drift is the fastest selling yet with 30% of stock sold in the first day. That just isn't a movie I see selling like that. I would have thought Batman Begins would have that honor.

digitalfreaknyc 10-12-06 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I dont understand the need for this statement....what are you getting at by saying this??? :confused:

You know exactly what he's getting at by saying it and I hope the mods take care of him accordingly.

Why no one ignores Josh just like Blitz and the others that came before him, I'll never understand.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by kvrdave
What amazes me is that they go on to say that F&F Tokyo Drift is the fastest selling yet with 30% of stock sold in the first day. That just isn't a movie I see selling like that. I would have thought Batman Begins would have that honor.

Most likely pre-orders are not counted AND this research was done before Batman Begins was released.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
You know exactly what he's getting at by saying it and I hope the mods take care of him accordingly.

Im assuming he was referring to the 11 to 1 number that was thrown around alot. Is that it??

I remember seeing that number, but dont know where the source came from.

If the 11 to 1 includes pre-orders of titles, it wouldnt surprise me though.

digitalfreaknyc 10-12-06 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Im assuming he was referring to the 11 to 1 number that was thrown around alot. Is that it??

I remember seeing that number, but dont know where the source came from.

If the 11 to 1 includes pre-orders of titles, it wouldnt surprise me though.

The 11 to 1 was (from what I know) including Amazon which this 3:1 doesn't include.

I could be wrong.

There also could be a lot of factors at work here but it is what it is. It would fit in well with where I am, that's for sure.

DthRdrX 10-12-06 02:26 PM

I think the 11:1 figure is total since launch. The 3:1 figure is August. I don't believe Videoscan numbers take online venders into account.

joshd2012 10-12-06 02:41 PM

Videoscan does not include online retailers - only B&M. The difference between the 11:1 and the 3:1 is that the latter was confirmed by HD DVD Promo Group, and the other was posted in a web forum.

Kocheese99 10-12-06 02:41 PM

either way i think 3:1 is still a very impressive ratio for HD.

RockStrongo 10-12-06 02:42 PM

Without online retailers, that number would be a joke.

Ive only bought a couple titles in a store versus online.

I own 31 titles and have 15 on preorder.

EDIT: I went back and looked at my receipts/order history....

I bought 26 online and 5 from BB (one using the toshiba coupon). All 15 of my preorders are from amazon or dvdplanet.

Mr. Cinema 10-12-06 03:02 PM

I'd love to see the numbers with online sales, which is where I've also bought most of mine. Isn't every single HD DVD outselling BD on Amazon? That would raise the ratio a bit.

digitalfreaknyc 10-12-06 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
I'd love to see the numbers with online sales, which is where I've also bought most of mine. Isn't every single HD DVD outselling BD on Amazon? That would raise the ratio a bit.

Not every single

It's typically about 30 HD DVD's ranked higher than the #1 BD.

Supermallet 10-12-06 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
Well, technically, there is no upconversion involved, only deinterlacing. So, unless the TV uses a poor grade of deinterlacer, then there will be zero visible difference between a 1080i and 1080p signal.

Still, I can understand your desire to eliminate any unnecessary steps in the video path. And we anxiously await your review of the XA2!

I was going to say this, but you beat me to it.

Spiky 10-12-06 04:52 PM

Well, if we're announcing stuff we bought....I'm just about on my way to pick up another LDp and a bunch of titles from a local guy looking to dump them. This'll bump my LD collection quite a bit, and give me some nice DTS 1.5Mb capability. Hey, that's just the same as BD/HDDVD can manage right now. :)


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