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gorgo99 07-05-06 10:16 AM
2001: A Space Odyssey on HDNet
 
Just in case you didn't know, this premiered on HDNet this weekend.

It looked great, definitely better than my up-converted DVD.

However, I did see more edge enhancement than I thought there should be, especially in the "Dawn of Man" section. And some of the contrast/brightness could have been better.

For the most part, though, it was quite an experience.

Blitz6Speed 07-05-06 10:22 AM
Yes, i just watched it for the first time and the quality was simply amazing for being such an older film. I beleive its a 70mm print, which is largely why its so amazingly clean.

Supermallet 07-06-06 12:30 AM
Warners commissioned three new 70mm prints a few years ago, and when I saw them they were spotless, so I imagine this was what they used.

Davy Mack 07-06-06 02:37 AM
Anyone seen THE SHINING on an HD channel?

:)

Josh Z 07-06-06 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by Davy Mack
Anyone seen THE SHINING on an HD channel?
A Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket have made rotations on HDNET and INHD, but I'm not aware of The Shining. I'd expect it to look about comparable to those other two (or the FMJ HD DVD), which is somewhere below what 2001 looks like.

Adam Tyner 07-06-06 08:57 AM
...although that'll change next month with The Shining making its HD debut (as far as I know) on HDNet Movies.

Davy Mack 07-07-06 04:02 PM
woohoo!

Mr. Cinema 07-07-06 06:23 PM
2001 is on now. It looks incredible. Is WB planning on debuting this on HD DVD when the 2-disc dvd SEs of the others are released in September?

flashburn 07-07-06 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
2001 is on now. It looks incredible. Is WB planning on debuting this on HD DVD when the 2-disc dvd SEs of the others are released in September?
That would be fantastic if they released all of them on HD DVD at the same time, however I have my doubts. Mainly due to the fact that they already released Full Metal Jacket on HD DVD. Hopefully at the very least this will just mean they are only going to release certain ones on HD DVD for now. I can't see them doing a double dip already with FMJ, but I guess anything is possible.

Supermallet 07-07-06 08:02 PM
If they release them all at once, and make an HD-DVD box set, then they'll just package the current release of FMJ along with it. However, I highly doubt an HD-DVD box set will have Dr. Strangelove.

Adam Tyner 07-07-06 08:07 PM
By the way, HDNet's series Higher Definition will have newly recorded interviews (also in high-def, naturally) with Gary Lockwood and Keir Dullea next Tuesday.

Supermallet 07-07-06 08:08 PM
I think I'm going to have to write to Comcast and demand they start carrying HDNet.

Davy Mack 07-10-06 06:29 AM
Agreed! I'll join U. The INHD channels are kinda lame and rarely are the films OAR.

Supermallet 07-10-06 04:06 PM
Last night Akira Kurosawa's film Dreams was on INHD. The sad thing is, it almost doesn't matter if Comcast carries HDNet or not, because none of my cable HD channels look nearly as good as HD-DVD. I've become completely spoiled now.

Davy Mack 07-11-06 04:50 AM
Wow! Our comcast HD here in berkeley is pretty good. WAY better than my gf's Uncles' DirecTV.. Can't wait to get my player!

Chris Blount 07-19-06 03:45 PM
I finally got around to watching both 2001 and 2010 on HDNet. Wow! Absolutely incredible! I saw 2001 in the theater back in the 60's and it looked pretty much like it did here. Very vivid and detailed. What an absolute treat! I hope both of these movies come out on HD-DVD.

Supermallet 07-19-06 04:11 PM
Dog Day Afternoon was on INHD last night. It looked damn good. I'd like to see an HD DVD of that, please.

Mr. Cinema 07-19-06 04:22 PM
Taxi Driver was on last night...or the night before, it looked very good on HDNet.

Davy Mack 07-19-06 06:24 PM
DAMN! Why can't we get HDnet here!!!!

candyrocket786 07-19-06 08:36 PM
I dvr'd The Time Machine this morning.

Giles 08-07-06 08:16 AM
Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
Yes, i just watched it for the first time and the quality was simply amazing for being such an older film. I beleive its a 70mm print, which is largely why its so amazingly clean.

what surprised me was how tactile looking the HiDef broadcast looked - the moonscapes, the space ships had such clarity that one almost wanted to reach toward the screen and touch it.

Question about the actual movie -
Spoiler:
are the blackblocks supposed to be time portals (This was the second time I watched the movie and I haven't read the book, so I suppose that's what one is supposed to intrepret, right?

jiggawhat 08-07-06 11:55 AM
I believe most of the movies that are on HD will probably be the first ones that end up as HD-DVD/Blu-Ray titles. I've seen a lot of titles like this.

XavierMike 08-07-06 10:43 PM
Originally Posted by Giles
what surprised me was how tactile looking the HiDef broadcast looked - the moonscapes, the space ships had such clarity that one almost wanted to reach toward the screen and touch it.

Question about the actual movie -
Spoiler:
are the blackblocks supposed to be time portals (This was the second time I watched the movie and I haven't read the book, so I suppose that's what one is supposed to intrepret, right?

Spoiler According to the books. -
Spoiler:
The monoliths are machines made by an advanced civilization to cultivate intelligence in other parts of the universe.
I just finished the 4th book. Let me klnow if you want to know more.

Supermallet 08-08-06 12:55 AM
This may require a separate thread in a different forum, but I would say do not look to the books for explanation of what happened in the movie. Kubrick and Clarke worked on the script for the film together, then Clarke went off to write the book while Kubrick shot the movie. Clarke put in a lot of stuff in the book that was clearly not in the movie (especially the fate of the Starchild), a lot of which completely strips the film of its mystique. Kubrick purposely left a lot of the film ambiguous, and the book does everything it can to lay everything bare.

Sanitarium 08-08-06 02:25 AM
I just got HDnet and a bunch of other HD channels today. I'm glad HDnet repeats often because I see 2001, The Shining and A Clockwork Orange are all going to be one there this week. I can't wait to see 2001 in HD.

Davy Mack 08-08-06 02:58 AM
Let us know how The Shining looks!!!

flashburn 08-08-06 05:02 AM
The Shining looks very good except for some minor print damage and dirt specks. It had a light amount of grain and the detail and clarity were terrific. My biggest complaint would be the dirt specks, which there seemed to be many. If the HD DVD release does use this transfer, I wouldn't hesitate on picking it up.

Davy Mack 08-08-06 01:42 PM
So I assume this was in WS? (Which I prefer The Shining in btw as that's how I saw it in the theaters, don't want to start up that debate all over again..)

flashburn 08-08-06 01:51 PM
Yes, it was in 1.78:1 ratio.

brainee 08-08-06 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by flashburn
The Shining looks very good except for some minor print damage and dirt specks. It had a light amount of grain and the detail and clarity were terrific. My biggest complaint would be the dirt specks, which there seemed to be many. If the HD DVD release does use this transfer, I wouldn't hesitate on picking it up.
I saw it and agree with this assessment. And given the movie is more than 25 years old, the grain/dirt is really no big deal. With all this Kubrick being the HD channel rotations (Shining, 2001, Clockwork Orange, Paths of Glory, Full Metal Jacket) it's going to be hard to buy new DVD SEs of these. The PQ can only suffer in comparison.

Jay G. 08-09-06 09:10 AM
Originally Posted by XavierMike
Spoiler According to the books. -
Spoiler:
The monoliths are machines made by an advanced civilization to cultivate intelligence in other parts of the universe.
I just finished the 4th book. Let me klnow if you want to know more.
Spoiler:
That's a bit of a simplification. The first monolith is there to cultivate intelligence. It actually affects the apes minds slightly so that they being using tools and such. The second monolith on the moon was left by the alien civilization as a marker. When it's uncovered by humans, meaning that they've advanced enough to travel through space, it sends a signal to the third monolith oribiting Jupiter. That's what the ringing noise was, was the radio signal from the 2nd monolith messing with the space suit's own radios. Now the third monolith is a portal, definitely in space but also possibly in time. Its purpose is least clear, but it seems to accend Rob Bowman into a higher state of being and sends him back to Earth.

nazz 08-09-06 10:13 AM
HDNet Movies is an amazing channel and I think I get more enjoyment from it than I do HBO, Starz or Showtime. Where else can you find 2001, The Shining, The Dead Pool, Pale Rider, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Rosemary's Baby, Monty Python's Meaning of Life, The Pit and the Pendulum, Empire of the Sun, Fistful of Dollars and Jeremiah Johnson in OAR HD? Those are just some of the recent premieres and worth changing providers for in my opinion.

Davy Mack 08-09-06 02:22 PM
Our stupid Comcast her in Berkeley only gives us INHD 1 and 2 with their giant logs and cropped wacky films. :(

Giles 08-09-06 02:24 PM
I'm half way through 'A Clockwork Orange' I'll give my thoughts on it tomorrow. So far, I've seen a couple of flaws, but on the whole pretty impressive.


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