HD-DVD audio...how is yours hooked up?
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
I have been trying to get the 5.1 analog to work but its just not happening for me. I just can't get my sub to match the output that I get using the digital coax. I like the analog for everything but the sub. if I could get this to match the digital I would be in heaven.
When you're done, your receiver's default volume setting for the analog input may be higher than the default volume setting for the digital input to achieve the same result. This is normal. You'll just have to remember to compensate accordingly whenever you use the analog connection.
Another option is that some receiver models (notably Denon) allow you to boost the 5.1 analog input's bass channel at the receiver independently of any of the other channels. Check your manual or your setup menus to see if that's possible.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
When you're done, your receiver's default volume setting for the analog input may be higher than the default volume setting for the digital input to achieve the same result. This is normal. You'll just have to remember to compensate accordingly whenever you use the analog connection.
I forget most of the time and just about blow my speakers. Luckily, my sub has a dial on the back to increase it manually....By doing this, it also increased the lfe on my dish receiver and 360, but its not bad at all.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
You may have to adjust the relative levels of all your other channels down. The A1's analog speaker settings run on a scale from -12 (lowest) to 0 (highest). Set the sub for 0 and all the other speakers somewhere around the -6 midpoint, then use a sound level meter to adjust the other five channels until you find the spot where the loudness of the subwoofer at 0 sounds right in relation to all of the other channels.
When you're done, your receiver's default volume setting for the analog input may be higher than the default volume setting for the digital input to achieve the same result. This is normal. You'll just have to remember to compensate accordingly whenever you use the analog connection.
Another option is that some receiver models (notably Denon) allow you to boost the 5.1 analog input's bass channel at the receiver independently of any of the other channels. Check your manual or your setup menus to see if that's possible.
When you're done, your receiver's default volume setting for the analog input may be higher than the default volume setting for the digital input to achieve the same result. This is normal. You'll just have to remember to compensate accordingly whenever you use the analog connection.
Another option is that some receiver models (notably Denon) allow you to boost the 5.1 analog input's bass channel at the receiver independently of any of the other channels. Check your manual or your setup menus to see if that's possible.
the other thing, when I use digital my volume level sits around -35db on my receiver display while when I use analog I have to run it around -12db in order to match the digital. does this sound right?
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Do any of you have a receiver that allows for volume adjustments for each input? You could set the HDDVD input to a higher volume to compensate for the low analog connection.
The LFE channel often needs quite a boost to match the other levels, it could easily need to be 10db higher in the settings. Chris, those differences are pretty extreme, but they could be correct depending on your receiver and the A1.
Also, it is very difficult to judge loudness of bass compared to higher frequencies. You all really should get SPL meters to set audio properly.
In the A1 menu, the speakers need to be set to small and the sub needs to be turned on.
The LFE channel often needs quite a boost to match the other levels, it could easily need to be 10db higher in the settings. Chris, those differences are pretty extreme, but they could be correct depending on your receiver and the A1.
Also, it is very difficult to judge loudness of bass compared to higher frequencies. You all really should get SPL meters to set audio properly.
In the A1 menu, the speakers need to be set to small and the sub needs to be turned on.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
Do any of you have a receiver that allows for volume adjustments for each input? You could set the HDDVD input to a higher volume to compensate for the low analog connection.
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Thats the issue...alot of receivers disable control this for the direct analog connection. Mine does.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Mine doesn't. But the issue is (I believe) that analog is LOUDER...not lower. no?
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
On mine, when connecting analog, it had alot less lfe than the digital coax connection. I didnt see a difference in the sound volume.
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I was looking to get the "right" type of cables for this hook-up. Right now I'm just using what I have and what I can. Anyone have any suggestions? Do they make 6 cables bundled for this sort of thing?
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Do they make 6 cables bundled for this sort of thing?
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Right now it would be better to go with the analog. If sound quality is your goal. If your goal is easiest setup, then optical will be fine.
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You just want 6 analog audio cables. If you look for a specialized set, you may get gouged on price since not too many have been marketed. Buying 3 pair may be cheaper. Just pay close attention when you plug them in, maybe add some additional colors to differentiate.
Frankly, analog audio is the easiest signal to transmit via copper. Almost any cable you have will work.
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You just want 6 analog audio cables. If you look for a specialized set, you may get gouged on price since not too many have been marketed. Buying 3 pair may be cheaper. Just pay close attention when you plug them in, maybe add some additional colors to differentiate.
Frankly, analog audio is the easiest signal to transmit via copper. Almost any cable you have will work.
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I still haven't got my analog working to my liking. I did notice that I had the dreaded "hum" in my sub when using analog which I just fixed today(in the rain). Comcast grounded it to my outside hose line and I just moved it to my grounding rods and it stopped. I can atleast crank up the volume and not have that annoying sound distracting me from the movie.
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ok, I just got a sound level meter and have a few questions. should I reset everything on both the XA1 and my receiver back to 0 before I start including speaker distances on the XA1? then from this point should I do my calibrations from the receiver or the XA1? which would be the better way to go?
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Speaker distance should be set first. Don't bother reseting this.
If there is obviously an issue with the bass being much louder or quieter than the rest as some of the discussion has indicated, it may help to start somewhere other than zero, with the sub channel at +5 and the others at -5 or something like that. It doesn't really matter where you start, as long as you are able to set each channel properly from there. Might be easier to keep track of it if you start them all at zero.
I'm guessing you are going to use the analog output from the XA1, so you would use the settings in the XA1. If you use the digital output, use the receiver controls.
If there is obviously an issue with the bass being much louder or quieter than the rest as some of the discussion has indicated, it may help to start somewhere other than zero, with the sub channel at +5 and the others at -5 or something like that. It doesn't really matter where you start, as long as you are able to set each channel properly from there. Might be easier to keep track of it if you start them all at zero.
I'm guessing you are going to use the analog output from the XA1, so you would use the settings in the XA1. If you use the digital output, use the receiver controls.
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
ok, I just got a sound level meter and have a few questions. should I reset everything on both the XA1 and my receiver back to 0 before I start including speaker distances on the XA1?
then from this point should I do my calibrations from the receiver or the XA1? which would be the better way to go?
I recommend hooking the HD-DVD player up by both coax/Toslink and 5.1 analog. First calibrate the receiver settings by playing Avia or Digital Video Essentials and using the player's digital output. When you're done, switch to the analog outputs and calibrate those within the HD-DVD player so that they hit the same results on the sound level meter.
Also, I would trust the test tones on Avia before trusting those that the HD-A1 generates.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
Speaker distance should be set first. Don't bother reseting this.
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I currently have both analog/digital coax connected to my receiver. the digital has a great sound but the analog just isn't right. that's why I finally picked up the meter.
I have had the speaker distances from my receiver copied over to the Toshiba since day one.
about the crossover settings, would I be better off calibrating the analog from within my receiver or the XA1, or do I do one and copy the settings over to the other? this is where I think I'm confused. ex; do I set everything to 0 in both my receiver and the XA1 and then calibrate say the receiver and whatever those settings are just copy them over to the XA1 or would I leave the XA1 settings at 0 afterwards?
I plan on using DVE for my test tones.
I have had the speaker distances from my receiver copied over to the Toshiba since day one.
about the crossover settings, would I be better off calibrating the analog from within my receiver or the XA1, or do I do one and copy the settings over to the other? this is where I think I'm confused. ex; do I set everything to 0 in both my receiver and the XA1 and then calibrate say the receiver and whatever those settings are just copy them over to the XA1 or would I leave the XA1 settings at 0 afterwards?
I plan on using DVE for my test tones.
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
about the crossover settings, would I be better off calibrating the analog from within my receiver or the XA1,
or do I do one and copy the settings over to the other? this is where I think I'm confused. ex; do I set everything to 0 in both my receiver and the XA1 and then calibrate say the receiver and whatever those settings are just copy them over to the XA1 or would I leave the XA1 settings at 0 afterwards?
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Some receivers' settings affect the analog input, too. So, it is probably best to use the digital output first and calibrate the receiver's settings first. Then go ahead and use the analog output and calibrate with the XA1's settings.
If your receiver's settings are as Josh suggests and don't affect the analog input, it won't matter.
If your receiver's settings are as Josh suggests and don't affect the analog input, it won't matter.
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I have a little 6" B&W it's hooked up through one of those RF things or whatever they are. The picture is better but not worth keeping the player, at least not until they get some Golden Girl season sets out.