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digitalfreaknyc 04-20-06 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by yellowbedwetter
Jaws the Revenge is worth is just for Mario Van Peeble's performance (and death scene) alone!

He doesn't die in the Home Video/Universal HD version.

Unfortunately, the only place to see the original theatrical version is, AFAIK, cable TV.

johnglad 04-20-06 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
He doesn't die in the Home Video/Universal HD version.

Unfortunately, the only place to see the original theatrical version is, AFAIK, cable TV.

That solves a riddle for me. I saw Jaws 4 on Universal HD and COULD NOT BELIEVE IT when Pebbles resurfaces (pretty much alright) after basically being EATEN by the shark. I racked my brain trying to understand how I didn't remember that from the movie. Turns out it wasn't there to begin with.

dx23 04-07-09 10:34 AM

Re: Bill Hunt says: Wait
 
I have usually defended Hunt and the Digital Bits, but I'm getting a bit tired of them misinforming people and then not correcting their remarks. Last week, Hunt posted this regarding the cancellation of the Ran Criterion Blu-ray:


Also today, we've learned a little more about Criterion's cancellation of Ran on Blu-ray, but just so you know this is NOT official, so it should be considered Rumor Mill-worthy. It seems that the U.S. home video release rights to the film are owned by Wellspring (who have released it on DVD in the past), the parent company of which is Genius Products, now 70% owned by The Weinstein Company. There have been industry rumors over the last year that Weinstein Co. is in some financial difficulty, so it's possible the Brothers want a better deal with Criterion (i.e. more or too much money) from Criterion to licence the title for Blu-ray. Hopefully, a deal of some kind will be struck soon, because (I'll say again) nobody would do better by this title in high-definition than Criterion. We are SO dying to see Kurosawa films in 1080p...
I emailed him this, correcting and refuting his statement on the site:


GNPR acquires 60% of Genius
New owner make take homevid unit private
By DIANE GARRETT

Genius Products, the troubled homevideo distributor majority owned by the Weinstein Co., now has a new majority owner.

GNPR Investments, an affiliate of investment firm Quadrant Management, has acquired 60% of the company. TWC now owns 15% of the company and Genius retains 25% of the company.

The new ownership is part of a restructuring of the homevid distributor, which was delisted by the OTCBB on Dec. 24. The company has renegotiated its distribution terms with TWC.

The company will also renegotiate existing agreements with vendors and content partners. Company may go private.

Under the new ownership by Quadrant, three of the company's directors appointed by TWC resigned and will be replaced with representatives from Quadrant.

TWC remains the biggest content partner for Genius, which also distributes discs from ESPN, Sesame Street, IFC and Animal Planet. The TWC deal will remain through 2010, with an option to extend until a year later.

Bob Weinstein said the new owners will allow him and his brother more time to concentrate on their movie slate.

"We look at this as an ongoing partnership and something that will grow in the future," he said.

It has been almost 5 days after that post and he hasn't corrected his information or put a retraction on the site. How can he expect for people to take him and his site seriously when he writes stuff that is completely wrong? From now on, I'm going to be taking everything he says with a grain of salt.

Doctorossi 04-07-09 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 9373703)
It has been almost 5 days after that post and he hasn't corrected his information or put a retraction on the site. How can he expect for people to take him and his site seriously when he writes stuff that is completely wrong? From now on, I'm going to be taking everything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, for one, he did just post that he's been unable to update the site for a few days, so a common-courtesy level of benefit-of-the-doubt would suggest that he might have a bit of a backlog at the moment. And second, your information is not exactly in direct contradiction to the consumer upshot of what The Bits posted. It's different information and a little fresher, but the end-result for the Blu-ray fan is the same. Bill may be waiting for an update which actually tells his readers something new about if/when they can expect the disc which, IMO, is an entirely appropriate and reasonable way to look at the story and the kind of decision that thoughtful journalists and editors make every day.

Grubert 04-07-09 10:52 AM

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Holy necrobump Batman!

Doctorossi 04-07-09 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Grubert (Post 9373753)
Holy necrobump Batman!

Yeah, really! I'm not sure how this thread is an appropriate forum for this guy's comment.

dx23 04-07-09 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 9373722)
Well, for one, he did just post that he's been unable to update the site for a few days, so a common-courtesy level of benefit-of-the-doubt would suggest that he might have a bit of a backlog at the moment. And second, your information is not exactly in direct contradiction to the consumer upshot of what The Bits posted. It's different information and a little fresher, but the end-result for the Blu-ray fan is the same. Bill may be waiting for an update which actually tells his readers something new about if/when they can expect the disc which, IMO, is an entirely appropriate and reasonable way to look at the story and the kind of decision that thoughtful journalists and editors make every day.

I only did a Google search to find out that the information he was posting was incorrect. He should have done the same before posting that the Weinsteins still own 70% of Genius. Although he excused himself for being out the past couple of days, he still manage to give a long update of releases. If he was such a thoughtful journalist, he should be fact checking posts like that before putting them online



Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 9373758)
Yeah, really! I'm not sure how this thread is an appropriate forum for this guy's comment.

I didn't want to start a thread on the guy or his site, since apparently here that is frown upon, especially when he is being criticized.

Doctorossi 04-07-09 11:14 AM

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You make a reasonable point, but being upset with the guy because 'OMG! It's been 5 days!' seems a little unrealistic to me. For all you know, his client may have mis-flagged your email as spam.

kefrank 04-07-09 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 9373777)
If he was such a thoughtful journalist, he should be fact checking posts like that before putting them online

I'm not particularly a fan of Bill Hunt, but I think you're overreacting. He's essentially just a blogger, though a relatively prominent one among home video enthusiasts. Bloggers aren't held to the same standards as "real journalists" and rightfully so - blogging by its very nature is not formal journalism. There are no compartmentalized roles of editor, fact checker, publisher, etc and as such, the reader should always know to take it with the appropriate grain of salt.

obidawsn 04-08-09 05:11 AM

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This really isn't that big of a deal. For one, the information was accurate until just recently (when was that article dated, anyway?). So they didn't happen to find the recent info that you did. So what? I'm glad you found the info and relayed it to him, and I'm sure he appreciated it. As someone mentioned, he hasn't been able to access the internet for several days. I'm sure he has a lot to catch up on, and this slight bit of information not being the top priority. Even so, if he does want to correct it, he may be double-checking the facts with proper sources. But considering the main information that Bill puts on his website, and what most people care about, are releases, and not who owns what company, I wouldn't be surprised that the info is never corrected. Now, if the info you gave him can be causing delays/cancellations of releases, then it might be newsworthy for him. Maybe you should just e-mail him and, as a courtesy, let him know that you realized that he may have missed your e-mail and wonder if the changeover in ownership may have affected the release. Even the best newsteam (not less a one-man blogger) may overlook such information and possible connections, especially when they're several days behind due to lack of access to e-mail, etc.

tylergfoster 04-08-09 05:21 AM

Re: Bill Hunt says: Wait
 
I've sent that guy some news updates, but he's only ever run one of them. :shrug:

dx23 04-08-09 09:04 AM

Re: Bill Hunt says: Wait
 

Originally Posted by obidawsn (Post 9375746)
For one, the information was accurate until just recently (when was that article dated, anyway?)....

Now, if the info you gave him can be causing delays/cancellations of releases, then it might be newsworthy for him

The article I refered to is from February 22. Yes, the info I gave him puts the blame on the right people regarding the cancellation/delay of the Criterion Ran BD and the reason for discontinuing distribution on the DVD. He blames the Weinsteins when in fact it is the GNPR Investment Co that has screwed up all the previous agreements.

To me that is a huge deal, since this situation of investment groups taking over film libraries and then asking huge amounts of money for the rights is going to be huge burden for independent companies like Criterion. These type of situation is going to prevent a lot of films from being released in the future.

PopcornTreeCt 04-08-09 09:33 AM

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I've waited and yes, Bill Hunt is still a dick.

Dan 04-08-09 02:03 PM

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^
yes. The worst thing about the format war, in hindsight, is not the 150+ HD DVDs sitting in boxes in my basement. No, the worst thing is that Bill Hunt probably thinks he made Blu-ray victorious.

AmityBoatTours 04-08-09 04:13 PM

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i have found that unless you massage his ego by opening your email with how great his site is you wont really get a response from him or a correction based on what you emailed him

Originally Posted by droidguy1119 (Post 9375751)
I've sent that guy some news updates, but he's only ever run one of them. :shrug:


CapRockBrewingCo. 04-08-09 04:24 PM

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Bill Hunt is a tool.

Arthur Dent 04-08-09 04:33 PM

Re: Bill Hunt says: Wait
 
I still read The Digital Bits, but I don't really care for Hunt anymore.

Dave Anderson 04-08-09 05:33 PM

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Well, the great thing is we can choose not to read his site if we don't like the news he reports. I did that years ago. He uses the site as a soapbox way too much.


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