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digitalfreaknyc 01-03-06 08:44 PM

Not a damn title i'm interested in. Why does HD-DVD look better???

joshd2012 01-03-06 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Not a damn title i'm interested in. Why does HD-DVD look better???

HD-DVD look better?

digitalfreaknyc 01-03-06 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
HD-DVD look better?

The initial wave of titles.

JLyon1515 01-03-06 09:52 PM

Heheh, I can't wait to see how many of the HD abd BR discs are just ports of the DVD contents. :) Better technology doesn't mean it'll look better...a vhs transfered to and HD or BR disc still looks like a vhs transfer. :P

digitalfreaknyc 01-03-06 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by JLyon1515
Heheh, I can't wait to see how many of the HD abd BR discs are just ports of the DVD contents. :) Better technology doesn't mean it'll look better...a vhs transfered to and HD or BR disc still looks like a vhs transfer. :P

Uhh...sorry. That's where you're wrong.

There isn't a "DVD transfer."

The transfers that were made for DVD's were HD transfers that were down-rezzed to DVD.

Try again.




My god...people are getting so ridiculously pissy about this. It's amusing. You'd think that HD would be a BAD thing.

jmj713 01-03-06 11:13 PM

I'll come out and say that HD *is* a bad thing. At least right now. Maybe 2% of the population currently has the ability and/or desire to watch HD broadcasts. What makes you think people will run to the stores in droves when HD-DVD/BR equipment and titles street? I highly doubt they will, as I highly doubt either format will succeed in displacing DVD as the main home video format for many years to come. Both formats, at best, will become what laserdisc became alongside VHS - better quality but never widely accepted nor replaced VHS, of course. DVD is good enough for most people, including myself, and the quality upgrade that HD offers just isn't sufficient enough. In my opinion.

JLyon1515 01-03-06 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Uhh...sorry. That's where you're wrong.

There isn't a "DVD transfer."

The transfers that were made for DVD's were HD transfers that were down-rezzed to DVD.

Try again.

My god...people are getting so ridiculously pissy about this. It's amusing. You'd think that HD would be a BAD thing.

Ummm, you weren't calling me pissy were you? Because I wasn't being pissy. Maybe I misworded what I was trying to say. My point was that I have some pretty crappy films on DVD, where the film is just blurry and grainy. Are you telling me that those DVDs will miraculously look stellar when they are on an HD DVD or BluRay DVD? No, they'll still be grainy and blurry. And for that reason, I'll just stick with my DVD releases of those films played on my HDTV through my upscaling DVD player. Now that's not so wrong is it? I don't think its wrong or pissy. That was all I was trying to say.

Qui Gon Jim 01-04-06 03:44 AM

I don't think anyone is saying people will go in droves. I'm with DFNYC. Why do people fear change so much? It is the LD people vs. DVD all over again. You don't have to give up your DVD collection. This is just something new.

I am sure that the transfers on each of these films will look pristine. They know they will be under the microscope, and I doubt they will faqil to deliver.

Now will we look back on these discs five years from now and think they look crappy compared to current standards? Yup.

ShallowHal 01-04-06 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by teamwinfan
I will finally be able to experience Hitch in HD!

You don't have HBO? :lol:

Kant 01-04-06 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by DthRdrX
First shots of Blu-Ray titles. CES here we come!

http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/Blu-Ray.jpg

I like the casetts-
Also this.
From ; http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6296434.html

Rings, Harry and Kong to go high-def
As studios dish slate news at Consumer Electronics Show
By Scott Hettrick 1/3/2006

JAN. 4 | The Mission: Impossible and Lord of the Rings trilogies as well as Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and Peter Jackson’s King Kong all will be released on high-definition digital discs this year.

At the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week, almost every studio is expected to announce the first slate of high-def digital disc titles coming to market in 2006. More than 75 new and old movies and TV shows are expected with the introduction of the first DVD player, with dozens and maybe hundreds more by the end of the year.

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, the studio with the most at stake in its Blu-ray Disc format, is being the most aggressive with plans to introduce the upcoming theatrical release Underworld Evolution day-and-date with the DVD in late spring/early summer. The studio will have 20 Sony and MGM titles including XXX and Robocop ready to go even earlier, when players are expected to be released as early as March.

Click here!
Sony also will release four catalog titles each month beginning this summer, every new theatrical release day-and-date on DVD and Blu-ray Disc and the first high-def version of a TV series to be announced so far from a major studio, Stargate: Atlantis.

Additionally, Sony is going out on a limb and committing to the debut of two titles--Bridge on the River Kwai and Black Hawk Down--using the 50GB dual-layer Blu-ray Disc, which has been running behind development time from the standard 25GB single-layer disc.

The studio also is announcing plans Wednesday for summer titles featuring advanced interactive gaming using the BD Java software, which has sparked some dissension from Hewlett-Packard within the Blu-ray Disc camp. SPHE president Ben Feingold said the process is too far along now to turn back and not use BD Java.

As for the 50GB dual-layer disc, Feingold said both movies have long running times as well as hours of bonus features that the studio has produced but been unable to release on DVD because they take up too much space.

Sony also will take advantage of the enormous additional capacity to use uncompressed audio on some of its Blu-ray Disc titles, including two Sony/MGM titles in the first wave--The Fifth Element and The Last Waltz. Sony execs say that even movie theaters do not offer uncompressed digital audio.

Feingold said he expects to ship 50,000 to 100,000 units of each of the first titles, as compared to the 60,000 or so units for each of the first five movies shipped for PSP.

Other Blu-ray Disc backers, 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate and Paramount, announced their lineup of titles as well. Disney will announce its titles and other plans at a Blu-ray Disc media event at CES on Thursday evening.

20th Century Fox Home Entertainment president Mike Dunn said the studio will have five titles, including Fantastic Four and Ice Age, in stores two weeks prior to the release of the first Blu-ray Disc player by any manufacturer. Fox will release 20 titles by summer, also debuting most new theatrical titles day-and-date on DVD and Blu-ray.

Each title will have at least one feature unique to the new format and will include 10% to 20% of the bonus features from previously released or new DVDs and 80% new bonus elements, such as advanced branching and menus and including added value programming accessed through connections to other devices such as the Internet.

Fox also is preparing two sci-fi titles to be announced later that will take advantage of the extra capacity of the 50GB dual-layer disc.

“We have material that we set aside a long time ago for these,” Dunn said. “We’ve been working up to this and cataloging content for two years.”

Lionsgate will release its traditional new-format driver Terminator 2 among its first wave of high-def movies. Company president Steve Beeks said Lionsgate will be ready to release as many as 10 titles as early as March or April or whenever the first players hit the market.

Beeks said the studio already has plans to encode some features using the new technology, which he said will represent the “killer app” for the format, but he declined to discuss those components.

Paramount is one of several studios opting to release titles in both the Blu-ray Disc and its incompatible rival, HD DVD. The studio is announcing Wednesday at CES that it will have more than a dozen titles ready to go for both formats at launch and later this year, including the Mission: Impossible trilogy, the most recent of which is being released in theaters this summer.

But Paramount president Tom Lesinski said the studio will determine its own definition of what constitutes a “launch” of high-def digital disc players in the market.

A few hundred or a few thousand players at select retailers will not be enough to motivate Paramount to release product, he said.

“When we know there’s enough product out there, we will determine that to be a launch and will then put out product,” Lesinski said.

He predicted that timeframe will be summer or possibly late spring.

Title announcements are expected late Wednesday at CES from other studios planning to release on both formats. Those include Warner, New Line and HBO, as well as the lone studio supporting only the HD DVD format, Universal, though Universal is said to be close to announcing it also will release in Blu-ray.

Amazon.com lists many of the titles from those studios already, including Universal’s King Kong and The Bourne Supremacy; Warner’s Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Batman Begins and Friends; New Line’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy and Seven; and HBO’s Band of Brothers.

Studios would not confirm the accuracy of those titles Tuesday.

None of the studio execs believe the new high-def format will drive any meaningful revenue for their studios this year, but they say it will entice the early adopters and set up more significant growth in 2007 and 2008. But Lionsgate’s Beeks said high-def, which he describes as a “replacement” format, will not grow as fast as DVD, which was more of a dramatic shift from videocassettes.

Beeks noted that high-def discs require two purchases by consumers: a high-def TV/monitor and a high-def player.

Studio execs also are not announcing pricing for the new titles yet, though Feingold said Sony might announce pricing as early as next week or as soon as release dates are set.

So march or April! Doesn't seem that far away.

Qui Gon Jim 01-04-06 05:01 AM

Seems like an agressive schedule for Sony. New calalog titles every month? Fox has got 2 Sci-Fi titles. Aliens and what else?

If Universal makes the flop, then it would seem that the HD camp is dead in the water.

CKMorpheus 01-04-06 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by jmj713
I don't understand the correlation between games and movies. In fact, I don't get why it's a major issue at all, games and movies are separate. Plus, who cares about consoles; PC gaming is always better.

Well I agree with you about PC gaming being much better. In fact I prefer my games on the PC since I spent nearly 400 dollars on my x800 xt damnit. But I also spent a decent amount on a nice 30 inch widescreen HDTV and I want to play some console games that look beautiful on it. Plus Blu-Ray capabilities!!

DthRdrX 01-04-06 08:03 AM

Most of the Fox/Artisan titles sound like the same ones that appeared on DVHS, so I'd bet the other sci/fi film from Fox is either Independence Day or I, Robot.

Grubert 01-04-06 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Fox has got 2 Sci-Fi titles. Aliens and what else?

The first two thirds of your nickname should give you a clue. :saber:

digitalfreaknyc 01-04-06 08:40 AM

Bring it on, bitches. And if they're not including all the bonus material from earlier DVD's, looks like I'll be hanging on to those as well.

bboisvert 01-04-06 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Grubert
The first two thirds of your nickname should give you a clue. :saber:

Not bloody likely. :)

Concorde 01-04-06 10:31 AM

OMG.. LOTR in HD later this year.. I AM SOOOOOO THERE.

digitalfreaknyc 01-04-06 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
Not bloody likely. :)

Phantom Menace, maybe ;)

bboisvert 01-04-06 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Phantom Menace, maybe ;)

You know, even TPM would probably convince me to buy a first gen player. A lot more so than ID4, anyways... ;)

digitalfreaknyc 01-04-06 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
You know, even TPM would probably convince me to buy a first gen player. A lot more so than ID4, anyways... ;)

I don't need convincing.

Aren't the first-gen players ALSO going to be recorders?

It's a done-deal.

Mr. Cinema 01-04-06 10:57 AM

3 things I'm looking for as most are:

1. Price of player
2. Price of movie
3. Quality control issues of player-if any.

Egon's Ghost 01-04-06 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by PatrickMcCart
Not bad, although it's funny that Amazon.com still lists them as "NTSC"

Can you or someone explain this? Sorry, me noob.

So the studios will release 2 incompatible formats, aficionados (at this point) will buy one, the other, or both, and in the end, one will stay. The people who invested in the losing format will sure be f*cked over.

Adam Tyner 01-04-06 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Can you or someone explain this? Sorry, me noob.

NTSC is the way of describing standard definition video throughout much of the world, including the U.S. -- 525 lines of resolution within a 6MHz channel at 30fps. If something's in high-definition, it's inherently not NTSC.

ChrisHicks 01-04-06 12:25 PM

give me a universal player that doesn't cost 2 arms and 3 legs and I'm in.

reefa 01-04-06 12:26 PM

This may be straying into another area of the forums, but I saw this when looking at the site and seeing where to spend my Reward Zone GC's:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1134699969167


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