Originally Posted by Adam Tyner

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni

Now I don't have either navigation bar, which isn't really a problem for me, but it's probably not what you want.

Originally Posted by Abob Teff

I think that is something that we tend to forget ... that this forum, and any other forum, is actually a business. If we want the forum to thrive and continue to exist, I suppose we should be asking "What can we do?" instead of just complaining about what is being "done to us".

Whether it is DVDTalk or Facebook, it may have been created by a guy in his bedroom with a passion (PHRASING!) but it ultimately has to be able to turn a profit or at least support itself.

So ... Joel, what can we do to support the forum? (I'll tell you now, I don't pay attention to ads let alone actually click on them on purpose.)

Originally Posted by Abob Teff

I guess my question is ... what exactly were the upgrades?

It's a new look, but actually restructuring the forums into more current/relevant topics than we had almost 20 years ago (Jesus, I have wasted my life away but you guys have kept me entertained) would have gone further IMO.

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni

Actually, it looks like you just tuned off Infinite scroll for me. When I turn it back on, the top bar still goes away as I scroll down.

Originally Posted by Nick Danger

I appreciate all the attention that Joel is giving us.

The ads are unfortunate, but IB bought the site to make money. That's life.

I've read that Internet Explorer is losing market share, but it's pretty funny that vBulletin can't even be bothered to support it. Take that, Microsoft! Bam!

I do not like the automatic logout. I liked the "stay logged in" checkbox.

Originally Posted by BobO'Link

The editor is broken. Different issues with different choices.

Standard Editor - Extra formatting controls:

Seems to work OK if you're editing a post inline. However, switch to "Advanced" mode and it will not stretch to the width of the screen as before. The max is maybe 1/3rd (at least on my screen). The "corner adjust" will allow it to be pulled down as far as you want but it can't be pulled across.

Replying to a post presents an editor interface like the "Advanced" mode - unable to pull to screen width.

Enhanced Interface - Full WYSIWYG Editing:

Also seems to work OK if you're editing a post inline or creating a new post. When it's switched to "Advanced" you completely lose the "corner adjust" control and have a small box in which to edit/create your post. It will have scroll bars, vertical and horizontal, depending on post content.

Replying to a post presents an editor interface like the "Advanced" mode - unable to adjust editor size at all.

Enhanced Interface - Full CKEditor Editing:

Seems OK editing inline, creating, or replying in any mode. BUT if you have a post to which you've added color using the Standard Editor those colors do not show in the edit window so you have no idea what you've done or how to go about fixing any color related issues. Your only choice is to switch to either "Standard/Extra" or "Enhanced/WYSIWYG" to make necessary adjustments. However, leaving either editors active then brings the issues specific to them.

I think that's it on those but I've not spent the time to fully test every function. Suffice it to say that each is broken in some manner making using the editor, especially editing/updating previous posts, something those of us doing challenges do frequently, and/or replying to others an arduous task.

Originally Posted by Meathead

With infinite scroll off it isn't that bad... just take a little getting used to.

Great more ads, more chances for the takeover BS that's plagued the mobile site for much longer than it ever should have.

Originally Posted by OldBoy

this site is really bumming me out. i even liked the reviews section and don't even see it anymore. i sad...

Originally Posted by slop101

Yeah, even with ads, I have a huge white border on the right.
How did this redesign pass testing?

Originally Posted by stingermck

Used the mobile site a little bit last night. When I clicked on a thread it does not take me back to the first new replay/unread post. I have to click the last page link and find the where I left off.
Bad forum redesigns can kill a sites community. I've seen it happen before.

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man

I had that problem as well. The infinite scroll (which I’m not a fan of anywhere) makes the board jumpy. I shut it off and have had no issues since.

Originally Posted by LorenzoL

On Chrome, I get the message that "This page is unresponsive. Do you want to wait or exit this page?" a lot. If I click wait, the warning appears again every 20 seconds. When I click exit, it just go away.

Originally Posted by IBJoel

You have ads on the right and you still have a ton of white space? Could you please post a screenshot?

Originally Posted by Timber

I can't get to the end of the 2019 Pro Wrestling thread in the sports forum. Just stops at post #38 and I've tried it on multiple devices.

Originally Posted by slop101

I have ads in between posts and on the right only at the top of a page, not as I scroll down.
But honestly, if an ad is supposed to take up that entire white space, that's eve worse.
I know you gotta make money with ads, but when overly obtrusive ads turn people away, you're just gonna get even less eyeballs.
Get rid of the margin ads and put in more ads between posts.
And I know you don't have control over this, but the ads with automatically streaming videos are the worst - they really slow things down, making me close the page. Or turn on ad-block. I don't have a problem with ads, I have a problem when they slow down my browser.

Originally Posted by IBJoel

Full CKEditor is the only one optimized for the new site. You are correct that it does not support colored text. This may be fixed later on, but there are no plans for it at this time.

Originally Posted by BobO'Link

OK... so will the other editors be optimized for the new site? I find the limitations of CKEditor more restrictive than the others. It has *some* good points but not enough to warrant switching to it exclusively.

Based on what I regularly post I'll absolutely be sticking with the "Standard Enhanced" editor as it offers the best overall functionality for me. I'd guess there are many others who participate in the challenges that feel much the same.

Originally Posted by IBJoel

Can you provide me with the URL of a page where this is happening?