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VinVega 06-26-13 03:47 PM

New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
In order to ensure there is a check and balance system in place for Administrative action we will be implementing the following adjustment to the Standard Operating Procedure for mods and admins:

A moderator will contact a suspended user to let them know they've been suspended & why. This communique should occur within 1 hour of the suspension. Where possible, the suspension will occur only after the mods have conferred and the member has been notified. But if disruptive behavior is continuing, the mods have the ability to suspend, then notify***.

The suspending moderator will confer with at least one other moderator and decide together the details of the suspension, and endeavor to message that to the member within a reasonable amount of time; in most cases this will be 24 hours, pending multiple moderator availability. This message will include the suspended member and both presiding mods.

An appeal can then be lodged by the suspended member by contacting BOTH moderators involved in the suspension decision, who will deliberate (perhaps involving other moderators, but not necessarily) and render a decision on the appeal. After this, the decision is final. The member is encouraged to refrain from further appeals that may prove to be a distraction to the moderator team; severe examples may be met with further disciplinary action.

DVDTalk will continue to refrain from discussing/posting anything about disciplinary action in the public forums.

The moderators will maintain a record of any previous infractions &/or interactions with the suspended member, and include reference to any in-thread warnings, emailed warnings etc. Due consideration will be paid to mitigating factors, previous warnings/suspensions, length of membership etc.

***Please note: It is vital that you keep your user profile updated to include an email address where you can be contacted. There have been examples where a user has been notified of a suspension but claimed it never happened, due to an out-of-date email address.

Please refrain from:

• Ignoring or arguing with warning posts a moderator or administrator makes in a thread. If you think the warning is unjust please email them or another moderator to discuss it.

TheBang 06-26-13 07:23 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
Maybe a link in your post to this page would be nice:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showgroups.php

VinVega 06-26-13 08:34 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Todd B. (Post 11745163)
Maybe a link in your post to this page would be nice:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showgroups.php

Thank you. I think since you posted it within the thread (and it is a sticky) we should be covered.

Nate Boss 06-27-13 12:59 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
respect to the mods for addressing what was an issue to some members, and to the admin for the changes made in the last few days. keep up the good work.

Canis Firebrand 06-27-13 01:12 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
Was it discussed, since you mention that there is one and only one appeal request allowed, that the appeal request go to a mod or mods that weren't involved in the original decision? This might alleviate any issue where a mod/admin feels that the appeal is nothing more than an attempt to further frustrate them.

Example.

User A makes a post that is against DVDTalk policies. Mod B warns User A and after conferring with Mod C, they decide to suspend User A for 3 weeks. User A feels this is unfair/unjustified and appeals the decision to Mod B and Mod C. Mod B and Mod C alert Admin D and Admin E. Admin D and Admin E reviews the chain of events then rule on the appeal.

Ok.. looking at it, that sounds a bit complex.. but there are times when appeals are heard by parties not part of the original punishment. Hopefully that makes sense.

All in all, its nice to see some positives come out of the events of recent.

VinVega 06-27-13 01:33 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Vryce (Post 11745969)
Was it discussed, since you mention that there is one and only one appeal request allowed, that the appeal request go to a mod or mods that weren't involved in the original decision? This might alleviate any issue where a mod/admin feels that the appeal is nothing more than an attempt to further frustrate them.

Example.

User A makes a post that is against DVDTalk policies. Mod B warns User A and after conferring with Mod C, they decide to suspend User A for 3 weeks. User A feels this is unfair/unjustified and appeals the decision to Mod B and Mod C. Mod B and Mod C alert Admin D and Admin E. Admin D and Admin E reviews the chain of events then rule on the appeal.

Ok.. looking at it, that sounds a bit complex.. but there are times when appeals are heard by parties not part of the original punishment. Hopefully that makes sense.

All in all, its nice to see some positives come out of the events of recent.

That's pretty much the process we are envisioning. Having more than one mod in the email chain ensures that you're not being singled out by one mod who may have a personal grudge against you. If you appeal, the mods are supposed to go back to the admins and give them the argument for the appeal.

Sometimes it may be difficult to find a mod who was not involved in the original decision especially if say 6 mods gave their opinion on the original course of action, but ideally, you'd want someone with a fresh take to look at the appeal. We don't close a suspension thread after only 2 people have commented on it though. So I'm not sure how you would codify the appeal process without getting to procedural.

Minor Threat 06-27-13 02:39 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
Has there been any discussion regarding suspension length? Three months is absolutely, unfathomably, fucking retarded.....

Music 06-27-13 02:51 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
bye MT :wave:

Minor Threat 06-27-13 02:56 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
Why? I simply asked a question.....

Trevor 06-27-13 02:59 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Minor Threat (Post 11746118)
Has there been any discussion regarding suspension length? Three months is absolutely, unfathomably, fucking retarded.....


Originally Posted by Music (Post 11746137)
bye MT :wave:

Hopefully it's more of a 'welcome back MT!'

Two weeks of pent up frustration can be forgiven in this new gentler DVDTalk, right?

Fwiw, I also feel that three months is too long in almost any case.

VinVega 06-27-13 03:27 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Minor Threat (Post 11746118)
Has there been any discussion regarding suspension length? Three months is absolutely, unfathomably, fucking retarded.....

There has been discussion. The 3 monther is free. I emailed him today to let him know.

Trevor 06-27-13 03:46 PM

;)
 
Avatars, name changes, more PMs, but shilling is ok?

Three steps forward, one step back....

d2cheer 06-27-13 03:47 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 11746171)
There has been discussion. The 3 monther is free. I emailed him today to let him know.

I haven't logged in here in over a week seems like there are some changes going on; too little too late. IMHO the damage has been done.

And I doubt he will be back.

Th0r S1mpson 06-27-13 10:18 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
To me it looks like some positive changes have been made in my absence. Sad to see some folks leave recently and hope they will return. Pleased with avatars (though I used to hate them) and the recent mod appointments and policy changes/clarification.

My name looks dumb now but I'll keep it.

The Bus 06-28-13 06:27 AM

Re: ;)
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 11746215)
Avatars, name changes, more PMs, but shilling is ok?

Three steps forward, one step back....

Give VinVega a break. VinVega™ brand Frog Legs are delicious. And with both Zesty Original™ and the new Tallahassee Dry Rub™ flavors available, there's "A Little Bit of Frog in All of Us!"™

gcribbs 06-28-13 11:41 AM

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If the appeal is to the same Moderators then it is meaningless.

You need to make sure the appeal is to different people who have the power to overturn the suspension.

In the case of a tie the person should not be suspended and in the case of a tie the appeal should be successful.

Also can people see their own "Record" of infractions that are being maintained against them or things that might already be in their file?

Shannon Nutt 07-06-13 12:36 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by gcribbs (Post 11747213)
You need to make sure the appeal is to different people who have the power to overturn the suspension.

I agree with this - in fact, while not overwhelmingly the case, there have been people suspended or banned from this site that - if you asked the vast majority of DVD Talk members - should not have been suspended/banned...and more than a few who should have been that no action has been taken on.

DVD Talk should be a fun place to visit, but I know a lot of people have left here because they don't feel the freedom that most other forums provide. Instead of correcting some of the moderation issues, the new changes now give the impression of over-moderation. Time will tell if that's the case, but that's the feeling I've been getting chatting with others over the past couple of weeks.

Instead of banning certain types of posts, why not just provide a forum section (or at least one thread) where it's allowed (sans illegal, adult, or spam content, naturally) - then users will have the choice whether to visit that part of the site or not.

benedict 07-07-13 02:50 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11755683)
I agree with this - in fact, while not overwhelmingly the case, there have been people suspended or banned from this site that - if you asked the vast majority of DVD Talk members - should not have been suspended/banned...and more than a few who should have been that no action has been taken on.

I'm really not sure that anyone can speak for the vast majority of DVDtalk members but, even if that were so, I think the mod team would be curious as to who you (or the vast majority) consider should have been suspended or [BANNED] but was apparently overlooked. Even before this SOP was formalised, reported posts rarely went uncommented even if mods occasionally - individually or collectively - used their judgement to determine that no action was required or that an email/PM would suffice.

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11755683)
DVD Talk should be a fun place to visit,

I agree.

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11755683)
Instead of correcting some of the moderation issues, the new changes now give the impression of over-moderation. Time will tell if that's the case, but that's the feeling I've been getting chatting with others over the past couple of weeks.

The SOP was part of a package of direct responses to issues raised by members. I regret that the rollout seems to have stalled temporarily but as a team we're in contact with IB to ensure the momentum is not lost. And I think it would be reasonable to give things time to bed in rather than writing anything off after just a couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11755683)
Instead of banning certain types of posts, why not just provide a forum section (or at least one thread) where it's allowed (sans illegal, adult, or spam content, naturally) - then users will have the choice whether to visit that part of the site or not.

I had a lengthy response to this part based on what I have seen over the past decade but I think it is best left to the Other Forum mods. What I would say is that experience has shown that what you are suggesting does tend to take up a disproportionate amount of moderator resources. When mods are thin on the ground and tending such a thread falls on just few pairs (or even one pair) of shoulders is when you can end up with "burn out".

dave-o 07-07-13 10:19 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by benedict (Post 11756105)
I'm really not sure that anyone can speak for the vast majority of DVDtalk members but, even if that were so, I think the mod team would be curious as to who you (or the vast majority) consider should have been suspended or [BANNED] but was apparently overlooked.

Well, since we aren't allowed to talk about banned members here, this seems to be an impossible request. But if you really want to know, go visit the new forum for a bit. There is a group of posters over there who have been permanently banned, all with the same story. They dared to question the judgement and authority of one particular admin, X.

I'm not saying all of these posters were angels, as some of them admitted they could have handled it better, but to permanently ban someone based on "daring to question authoritah!" is ridiculous. And since no one can ask questions, or even mention these posters, it gets swept under the rug. That was until this same admin very publicly did the same thing to Tarantino and Minor Threat. The cat is out of the bag now it seems.

And while you're right, it is fair to give the new rules some time to see if they work. I honestly dont see how anything has been put in place to prevent the same thing from happening again and again. It would also be nice to have at least one person admit what the problem was, and maybe reach out to some of those affected by it over the years.

benedict 07-07-13 10:42 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by dave-o (Post 11756203)
Well, since we aren't allowed to talk about banned members here, this seems to be an impossible request.

:doh: I'm somewhat curious as to how you so badly misread my post.

I was asking about the members whom Shannon Nutt (and perhaps even the vast majority of DVDtalk members) considered should have been suspended or BANNED but against whom he feels that no action has been taken.

FWIW I also alluded to the fact that no-one but the recipient would necessarily know if a mod or admin had decided to send an email or PM rather than take more visible action.

Originally Posted by dave-o (Post 11756203)
I honestly dont see how anything has been put in place to prevent the same thing from happening again and again.

We disagree about the impact of the SOP. Not sure why you'd try to say it is flawed but that is your choice.

Groucho 07-07-13 10:59 AM

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My reading of comments in the "other" forum is that most (all?) of the long-banned people have no intention of returning here. But if there are people who feel like they were unfairly banned, and would like to return, I invite them to reach out to me (I am on both forums) and I will raise their case in the Mod forum as a neutral party.

dave-o 07-07-13 11:02 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by benedict (Post 11756220)
:doh: I'm somewhat curious as to how you so badly misread my post.

I did misread it, I apologize. I must have put a "not" in there where there wasn't one. I do think it brings up an issue that has not been addressed yet (that I am aware of). Because of the total ban on talking about banned or suspended members, and because these members are unable to post, how are we to know that anything at all is changed? What I mean is, most of the members I've alluded to, just disappeared. We are only now finding out how pervasive the problem has been for such a long time.


Originally Posted by benedict (Post 11756220)
Not sure why you'd try to say it is flawed but that is your choice.

I think I've made my feelings pretty clear already. But I'll give this example again. When Minor Threat was suspended, it happened out in the open for all to see. It was absolutely ridiculous and an obvious abuse of authority by an admin who doesn't like being questioned. I find it hard to believe that other moderators or admins couldn't see how inappropriate this use of power was. But not one single admin or mod spoke out and did anything about it. Not one single mod or admin has even admitted what the actual problem is. Yet, you expect us to believe that this won't happen again. Why?

Nothing in the new rules will prevent this, if mods and admins are unable to stand up to the admin who is running around with his own personal ban hammer (and I have no idea why this is, fear, respect, something else?). If they were unable to stand up for what is right before, and unwilling to even admit to the problem, what will be different now? You have to recognize what the problem is before you can fix it. Anything else is just window dressing and blowing smoke up our asses. Just my 2 cents on this whole ordeal.

At this point I'll stop repeating myself, as it's obvious nothing will be done and I don't want to continue wasting my time and your time. I will say this though, thank you for at least being the only admin who is willing to dialogue with us about these issues.

benedict 07-07-13 11:05 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by dave-o (Post 11756203)
[...] It would also be nice to have at least one person [...] maybe reach out to some of those affected by it [...]

This thread is supposed to be about the SOP, so I'll pose one rhetorical question and then we can maybe agree to keep things entirely on topic.

If, say, half a dozen mods and admins were involved in a lengthy discussion about a particular repeatedly-warned and repeatedly-suspended member who in email after email to pretty much all of us refused to accept that the rules applied equally to him, was consequently BANNED by universal agreement and who subsequently repeatedly tried to sign up again under new names, and which member now lays the blame for his fate at the door of one admin, can you think of a good reason why anyone in authoritah would want to have anything more to do with the guy? Ever?

Psi 07-07-13 12:59 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by benedict (Post 11756105)
I think the mod team would be curious as to who you (or the vast majority) consider should have been suspended or [BANNED] but was apparently overlooked.

There is a short list of members in the religious or gay threads who I consider contribute to a general unpleasantness in the forum - although whether you suspend/ban them or not depends on what kind of place you want this to be or become. It is not that they disagree with most other members (or myself), but there is a certain nasty tone to their posts, and it gets old and tiring after a while.

With regards to the SOP, I think it's a good thing that you establish or clarify rules so we all know how to behave around here. That said, I would say that the problem prior to this last month hasn't been a lack of clear rules, but the adversarial relationship that sometimes existed between users and admins. I have seen a marked change recently, and I thank you, VinVega and the new mods for that, but the change I appreciate most is not what's in the new SOP, but the way you deal with us, on good days and bad days.

And so I hope "the elephant" doesn't come back :)

dave-o 07-07-13 01:49 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11756226)
My reading of comments in the "other" forum is that most (all?) of the long-banned people have no intention of returning here. But if there are people who feel like they were unfairly banned, and would like to return, I invite them to reach out to me (I am on both forums) and I will raise their case in the Mod forum as a neutral party.

Thanks Groucho, I think that's a cool move. :thumbsup:

Numanoid 07-10-13 03:10 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
In response to benedict's question above:

One read through of the Man of Steel review thread will demonstrate that there are one or two individuals who do nothing but childishly berate and attack anyone with a differing opinion than them. And they do so, ADMITTEDLY, within the confines of the existing rules just so they don't get banned. They are completely breaking the spirit of the rules, but not the letter, so they go unpunished. I know one mod here who has had enough, but can't or hasn't done anything about it. That kind of shit makes me not want to hang out here, and actually has kept me from posting here much lately.

IBobi 07-10-13 05:43 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Numanoid (Post 11760389)
In response to benedict's question above:

One read through of the Man of Steel review thread will demonstrate that there are one or two individuals who do nothing but childishly berate and attack anyone with a differing opinion than them. And they do so, ADMITTEDLY, within the confines of the existing rules just so they don't get banned. They are completely breaking the spirit of the rules, but not the letter, so they go unpunished. I know one mod here who has had enough, but can't or hasn't done anything about it. That kind of shit makes me not want to hang out here, and actually has kept me from posting here much lately.

Thank you for that feedback, Numanoid; have you used the Report Post button, and/or brought this to the attention of the mods?

Music 07-10-13 05:52 PM

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Can you please add another o to your name so we can call you IBoobi? :)

IBobi 07-10-13 06:08 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Music (Post 11760589)
Can you please add another o to your name so we can call you IBoobi? :)

Damn -- the name change amnesty period was two weeks ago :(

Cabman Gray 07-10-13 06:25 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 11760577)
Thank you for that feedback, Numanoid; have you used the Report Post button, and/or brought this to the attention of the mods?

Taking up Numanoid's point; the issue is, as he said, with one or two posters (it's glaringly obvious in the Man of Steel threads). And using the Report Post button, even if one was inclined to do so, isn't without its own problems. Would we have to report every single problematic post by those individuals? That could end up overwhelming the mods.

VinVega 07-10-13 06:38 PM

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If you don't want to report a bunch of posts, PM a mod of your choice. They will either make an official post to try to reign in the poster in question, and or start a conversation among the other mods for feedback on further action if necessary.

Numanoid 07-11-13 06:02 PM

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When a mod is actively posting in the thread and making comments about the individual's behavior, it seems unnecessary to have to report the posts. But, as I said, they were being very cautious to not make any direct personal attacks, even though they really were, in essence. Literally anyone that posted anything less than a positive review in that thread was berated and implied to be an idiot. Time after time after time.

Are there no repercussions for creating a toxic atmosphere or generally being a jerk? Seems like now the pendulum is swinging the other way and the mods don't want to take any action so as not to seem heavy-handed. That kind of thinking has its own problems. There needs to be some balance.

Just venting. Thanks for listening. That thread just pissed me off because quite a few of us were willing to have a great conversation about the movie and a couple of bozos completely shut down any intelligent debate.

Chrisedge 06-27-14 11:05 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
I still think there should be a thread that shows the actions of the mods towards members. Locked and no one can post or reply, but informs members of what happened to the suspended or banned members. I visit another large forum that does this, and it's great since you can see when the action took place, and what the sentence was, and for how long.

Basically three lines:

Member: Chrisedge
Status: Temporary 2 week suspension
Reason: Repeated personal attacks and arguing with members despite multiple warnings from moderators.

This would go a long way in transparency and let others know what they should avoid doing.

Trevor 06-27-14 01:04 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Chrisedge (Post 12151918)
I still think there should be a thread that shows the actions of the mods towards members. Locked and no one can post or reply, but informs members of what happened to the suspended or banned members. I visit another large forum that does this, and it's great since you can see when the action took place, and what the sentence was, and for how long.

Basically three lines:

Member: Chrisedge
Status: Temporary 2 week suspension
Reason: Repeated personal attacks and arguing with members despite multiple warnings from moderators.

This would go a long way in transparency and let others know what they should avoid doing.

I agree, but the fear would be that the info would find it's way into other threads.

Chrisedge 06-30-14 10:14 AM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12152015)
I agree, but the fear would be that the info would find it's way into other threads.

I think people might link to it, or possibly explain a banned/suspended member's absence with it, but I don't think people would discuss it anymore than they discuss it now. Plus it might even be discussed less since their is a place to look and see what happened. (No more hinting at banned members disappearance, etc...)

nemein 06-30-14 10:33 AM

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I'm fine w/ it.

IBobi 06-30-14 07:21 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
At this point, I think we're a year out from the last uproar about "unexplained mod actions" and wanting so-called "transparency"? We have a new set of moderator policies in place and things seem to be going really well and everyone's being treated fairly and with equanimity. Of course, those who are actually disciplined will never agree...

If there's a compelling reason to change years of established "we don't talk about other members' disciplinary actions in public" policy, then we can discuss, but I have not seen that reason yet. Quieting a few wheels that always want to squeak about one thing or another isn't a good enough driver for this kind of change, in my opinion.

Viper187 05-21-19 08:44 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 

Originally Posted by dave-o (Post 11756229)
I think I've made my feelings pretty clear already. But I'll give this example again. When Minor Threat was suspended, it happened out in the open for all to see. It was absolutely ridiculous and an obvious abuse of authority by an admin who doesn't like being questioned. I find it hard to believe that other moderators or admins couldn't see how inappropriate this use of power was. But not one single admin or mod spoke out and did anything about it. Not one single mod or admin has even admitted what the actual problem is. Yet, you expect us to believe that this won't happen again. Why?

Nothing in the new rules will prevent this, if mods and admins are unable to stand up to the admin who is running around with his own personal ban hammer (and I have no idea why this is, fear, respect, something else?). If they were unable to stand up for what is right before, and unwilling to even admit to the problem, what will be different now? You have to recognize what the problem is before you can fix it. Anything else is just window dressing and blowing smoke up our ashes. Just my 2 cents on this whole ordeal.

At this point I'll stop repeating myself, as it's obvious nothing will be done and I don't want to continue wasting my time and your time. I will say this though, thank you for at least being the only admin who is willing to dialogue with us about these issues.

Interesting read there. I've got a certain mod/admin stalking me now. I've been on this site for 12 goddarn years, and I've always posted the same way. I don't give a fork if people like certain words or not. I don't have a history of attacking anyone. I just bench and moan in my own way. If the rest of the staff agreed on censoring, the words would be filtered automatically by the board's censors. I know you have those, cause there are a couple words being censored. Instead, this clown is editing every post in the most childish ways I've ever seen rather than basic asterisks. The stupid son of bench even edited the word "glash." It's GLASH you stupid fork! Oh, noes. It has "ash" in it. Is this guy retarded!?!? And the sloppy POS turns off my goddarn signature every time he does it. In the Game of Thrones Finale topic, he literally ignored TWO other people's comments that included "bad" words and only edited mine.

The Cow 05-22-19 09:23 PM

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:lol:


cultshock 05-23-19 03:55 PM

Re: New Moderator SOP regarding Suspensions/Bannings/etc
 
First thing I thought of. :lol:


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