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Solid Snake 06-13-13 08:00 PM

Re: Address MOD Questions....?
 

Originally Posted by benedict (Post 11729529)
On a personal note, and probably showing me in the minority, I would actually prefer a return to the days of the profanity filter. I believe that some of the turns of phrase we now see within the forums themselves can make the place seem a little threatening, maybe a bit more like the locker room, and could foster a less respectful (or at least a more ambiguous) atmosphere which in turn can lead to arguments, hurt feelings etc. etc.

Just my two pennies!

Whoa whoa motherfucking whoa.

On a serious note, I think that we need to fix those old ass rules that may be useless or just worded bad. In that I believe that members and mods must come to an agreement on the rules to develop and evolve the culture that was there.

We primarily deal with art here. The rules set now don't properly appropriate the respect for it. I think some rules placed now need to be changed in posting to the ones related to cinema. I'd go in greater detail but it'd be a while.

Also I do agree we need new mods. Fresh blood. People who actually make this site a home for them. There are a shit ton of what appears to near in active mods. How can you moderate a culture if you don't fucking partake in it?

As crazy as it may sound. I'd fucking be interested in being a mod. I mean I'm here all the goddamn time. Probably way too damn much. Damn you all for making me act all serious and shit.

Fist of Doom 06-13-13 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11730603)
Also I do agree we need new mods. Fresh blood.

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...1&d=1363791016

I hereby nominate Solid Snake for mod status. There's not nearly enough fucking profanity up in this bitch.

DirkUSA 06-13-13 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fist of Doom (Post 11730611)
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...1&d=1363791016

I hereby nominate Solid Snake for mod status. There's not nearly enough fucking profanity up in this bitch.

I second that motion!

:D

Solid Snake 06-13-13 08:21 PM

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Also free Long Islands with Chips and Salsa!

The Valeyard 06-13-13 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 11730549)
Don't worry, they do naked. Fantasy time intact. -other-


Make me a Mod then. I'm already naked. :banana:

BearFan 06-13-13 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 11730553)
My understanding is that this is indeed the case, for any account that is not very obviously a spammer/bot. If not, this will be the case going forward. Nobody should be disciplined without notification and reasonable opportunity for redress.

Not wanting to get into this too much (and I guess I should point out I was a mod here in the late 1990s) ... there was a thread in other where I said some things to another user that got personal (back and forth) ... the thread was closed and the moderator left a warning for myself and the other user .. which was deserved, I was in the wrong.

About a week later, I was suspended with no explanation. I think it might have been for that, I cannot think of anything else I posted that would cause a suspension .. but I really do not know. I emailed 3 mods and got no reply, since I was suspended, I obviously could not post to ask.

Dan 06-13-13 10:02 PM

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I'll throw my 2 cents in.

Banned/suspended members thrive on the drama. Not all, but some. Mods will never win if they allow any open discussion for the community to give their opinions. So, I don't ever expect that. What I think is fair is, as someone else suggested, a locked public thread that indicates:
Who just got suspended. How long the suspension is, and a single sentence explaining the infraction. Ie:

SomethingMore. Suspended until June 15th. Wouldn't shut up about his new job at Del Monte.

If the suspension is a sensitive topic, then I'm not sure of the best explanation, but that's for the mods to decide anyway.

mzupeman2 06-13-13 10:15 PM

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Meh. I still think the best way to go about it is to just ensure that all the mods are on the same page in regards to actually notifying the suspended/banned person, and allowing a dialogue to take place if the person is at least level-headed and respectful. We really don't need a public suspended/banned wall.

Nick Danger 06-13-13 10:44 PM

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The rule that we can't discuss banned members makes sense to me, because it certainly would tempt them to return, and because they are unable to defend themselves. A wall of shame would be a bad idea.

fumanstan 06-13-13 10:52 PM

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I think the rule makes sense with regards to forum members discussing or poking fun at a suspended or banned member after the fact, but I don't see the harm in an explanation from a moderator as to what happened, or someone on the forum asking for clarification regarding the member.

For instance, jabs at SomethingMore about how he deserves the suspension because Del Monte sucks anyway and Dole is better shouldn't be allowed since he can't respond to it, but if someone asked in Feedback "Why was SomethingMore suspended? What's wrong with Del Monte?" the moderator could provide additional reasoning.

NotThatGuy 06-14-13 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 11730116)
Wow, how'd I miss that?!

Oh wait, I know. The discussion was quickly deleted and the "offenders" who dared question a mod's behavior silenced.

*Godwin's Law*

I didn't think it'd take that long.


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 11730553)
My understanding is that this is indeed the case, for any account that is not very obviously a spammer/bot. If not, this will be the case going forward. Nobody should be disciplined without notification and reasonable opportunity for redress.

That would be a welcome clarification, as there have been multiple instances of this over the years where this was definitely not the case.

Travis McClain 06-14-13 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 11730317)
4. One person mentioned that mods shouldn't post in threads so as to not appear biased if they have to take administrative action in said thread. I don't agree with this. Mods were originally posters here. We started posting here because we enjoy this place. If I couldn't post in a lot of threads, I don't see why I would even want to visit this site anymore. The mod pay is tempting, but not really. ;)

That was me, but that wasn't what I said. I said that I felt mods shouldn't issue disciplinary actions for threads in which they are participants. I feel my reasoning on that is sound: Parties A and B are in a dispute that escalates. Mod issues disciplinary action against Party A, which may or may not be deserved but Mod was an active member of the thread throughout the escalation and allowed it to get to the point where Party A said the magic word in frustration.

If I'm Party A, I'm likely very upset that Mod watched it all happen quietly until some specific turn of phrase triggered some kind of automatic suspension clause while Party B moves on to whatever highly charged thread comes next.

So it isn't that I suggested Mods not participate in the forum; merely that they recuse themselves from a specific thread if they've been a participant. Any disciplinary action taken could be interpreted as indifference to the role of the un-disciplined party, which is tantamount to an unspoken endorsement of Party B. That's what I proposed, and why.

VinVega 06-14-13 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 11730876)
That was me, but that wasn't what I said. I said that I felt mods shouldn't issue disciplinary actions for threads in which they are participants. I feel my reasoning on that is sound: Parties A and B are in a dispute that escalates. Mod issues disciplinary action against Party A, which may or may not be deserved but Mod was an active member of the thread throughout the escalation and allowed it to get to the point where Party A said the magic word in frustration.

If I'm Party A, I'm likely very upset that Mod watched it all happen quietly until some specific turn of phrase triggered some kind of automatic suspension clause while Party B moves on to whatever highly charged thread comes next.

So it isn't that I suggested Mods not participate in the forum; merely that they recuse themselves from a specific thread if they've been a participant. Any disciplinary action taken could be interpreted as indifference to the role of the un-disciplined party, which is tantamount to an unspoken endorsement of Party B. That's what I proposed, and why.

What if it's an active thread and nearly all the mods are involved in it?

Nefarious 06-14-13 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 11730924)
What if it's an active thread and nearly all the mods are involved in it?

Haven't we had enough threads on Good Burger?

VinVega 06-14-13 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefarious (Post 11730932)
Haven't we had enough threads on Good Burger?

:lol: Clearly.

LurkerDan 06-14-13 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 11730553)
My understanding is that this is indeed the case, for any account that is not very obviously a spammer/bot. If not, this will be the case going forward. Nobody should be disciplined without notification and reasonable opportunity for redress.

How about that treatment for the OP of this thread, who was suspended for posting an obnoxious and threatening PM? And other than the second PM telling him he was being suspended for posting that PM, he has received no other notification re length of suspension nor any opportunity to plead his case.

VinVega 06-14-13 10:00 AM

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I just want to make sure everyone is familiar with this page:

List of Mods and Admins

So you know how to get in touch with us.

There is a link to this page on the main forum page http://forum.dvdtalk.com/index.php called View Forum Leaders.

I actually forgot this page was out there.

davidh777 06-14-13 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 11731051)
I just want to make sure everyone is familiar with this page:

List of Mods and Admins

So you know how to get in touch with us.

There is a link to this page on the main forum page http://forum.dvdtalk.com/index.php called View Forum Leaders.

I actually forgot this page was out there.

I thank these mods for their service!

That said, I don't recognize a number of those names and think that reflects what we were saying about some mods not being very active around her any more (they could be monitoring and not posting, I realize).

LurkerDan 06-14-13 10:10 AM

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VinVega, is that in response to my post? Because the OP is understandably wary of contacting anyone, lest it be viewed as "further" harassment.

VinVega 06-14-13 11:12 AM

Re: Address MOD Questions....?
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 11731065)
I thank these mods for their service!

That said, I don't recognize a number of those names and think that reflects what we were saying about some mods not being very active around her any more (they could be monitoring and not posting, I realize).

There are a few people in there from "the old days." So you do make a valid point. I don't really know who is monitoring regularly. I definitely don't post as much anymore, but I try to get to RTP emails as soon as I can.

A number of folks have already mentioned that we need new mods and it's also been mentioned that the mod team is looking to move on that as we speak.

VinVega 06-14-13 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LurkerDan (Post 11731069)
VinVega, is that in response to my post? Because the OP is understandably wary of contacting anyone, lest it be viewed as "further" harassment.

It wasn't in response to your post. Just general information. You or the OP can contact me via PM if you like. If I can be of assistance I will certainly try.

covenant 06-14-13 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 11731151)
You or the OP can contact me via PM if you like.

Don't do it!
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net..._6946508_q.jpg

LurkerDan 06-14-13 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by covenant (Post 11731187)

:lol:

I took a chance and sent the PM. So this may be the last you see of me. :wave:

Nate Boss 06-14-13 01:09 PM

Re: Address MOD Questions....?
 

Originally Posted by LurkerDan (Post 11731029)
How about that treatment for the OP of this thread, who was suspended for posting an obnoxious and threatening PM? And other than the second PM telling him he was being suspended for posting that PM, he has received no other notification re length of suspension nor any opportunity to plead his case.

OP fell under the "fuck you, that's why" rule. He should be thanking the stars that they haven't sent a sniper after him....yet.

I sent IBBobi a PM about this issue, since I'm a former IB employee with some insight that most don't have. I want to see if he acts like everyone else from that god damn company and not read or respond to it.

fumanstan 06-14-13 01:14 PM

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He's replied to my private messages about this. I might not agree with some of the words and actions, but he's been responsive to me which I can appreciate.


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