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Kittydreamer 10-12-07 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bandoman
It wouldn't be too difficult. I would just ban a bunch of people on my first day, that way everyone would be afraid of me and then I would rule with an iron fist. There's nothing like an iron fisting.

I, for one, welcome our new iron fisting overlord.

CRM114 10-15-07 02:48 PM

So no one from the forum is going to even bother to respond to this? Lame.

I guess we will continue on with 3 phantom mods then.

The Bus 10-15-07 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
So no one from the forum is going to even bother to respond to this? Lame.

I guess we will continue on with 3 phantom mods then.

Nice. Which Phantoms? Were they part of the lineup that won the Calder Cup?

bwvanh114 10-15-07 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
So no one from the forum is going to even bother to respond to this? Lame.

I guess we will continue on with 3 phantom mods then.

Well, I agree with you that they are doing a fine job. So I don't see what's so lame about that.

Venusian 10-15-07 06:25 PM

It is possible that mods do work on a forum without posting on it

CRM114 10-16-07 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Venusian
It is possible that mods do work on a forum without posting on it

Possible. But thats what this thread is about.

benedict 10-16-07 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
So no one from the forum is going to even bother to respond to this?

I don't get it.... only people from the forum can post replies.

Are you saying you want a response from a moderator?

Originally Posted by heimerSWT
Lately--for me--I haven't done a lot of in thread warnings or anything like that...especially in politics. But I try to move spam and close threads when necessary. That kind of thing doesn't have a public timestamp, if any.

I try to avoid most of politics because of how bitter people act towards each other. I have lately been lurking around that forum, and things seem to be better from what I can tell...

But, really, the main reason why my name is even in the mod list is because I started as an Other Forum moderator, and since the politics forum is a subforum of that, I am, by default, a moderator of that subforum.

Or an admin?

Originally Posted by X
I think I should remind people that choosing moderators doesn't work through a nomination process by members.

Or from Geoff directly?

Originally Posted by gkleinman-3 years ago
My typical Day.

Get up and check in. The first thing I do almost every day is to check in, see if there are any immediate issues to deal with, emails that need immediate attention or things that need my attention first thing

Then I catch a quick breakfast and make myself a latte (almost always w/ Portland's own Stumptown Coffee).

Then it's back to the site and answering some of the quickie emails that I can clear out of my inbox with a quick response. I typically get 100 or so emails a day which need some sort of response. With all the spam and such it can be as many as 1000 emails or more.

Next up would be the DVD Talk Review database. I go in, check and see if there are reviews which are queued and ready to go out. My goal is to get reviews up as quickly as I can.

Almost every day of the week involves some sort of newsletter. So if it's a Monday I spend between 3 and 4 hours working on pulling everything together for the newsletter. If it's another day of the week I'm making sure we have everything we need to publish whatever newsletter is going out that day.

After the reviews are done, and the urgent emails are addressed I spend some time in the private mod's and dvd talk reviewer's forum areas, make sure anything that needs my attention gets it.Check in with writers/mods as there is always some sort of ongoing discussion.

Next up is updating the front of the site. Depending on when it is during the week it can be a quick thing or something much more indepth. I tend to spend a lot of time picking out the notable DVDs and deciding what to feature on the site.

After that's all underway I typically spend time on the phone with studios and pr agencies. Following up on DVDs we've requested, scheduling interviews for the site, looking at giveaways as well as working on my monthly TV segment (with Electronic Press Kits)

Midway throught this I tend to take some time to pack up DVDs to go out to our writers. DVD Talk has 35 people who write for the site and we get a TON of DVDs (both adult and mainstream) in. I pack up the DVDs and make sure they go out to the right people, sometimes this can be a 1-2 hour process to get everything together.

Often I'm checking in with the Feedback forum, some days I just need to respond to a question or comment, but others involve dealing with a problem or issue (like pop-up madness).

Invariably I find that it's almost 1:00 and I haven't had lunch. So I tend to take a quick break to catch a bite, see my kids (I have a home office).

Then it's back up to work, typically responding to a number of emails, trying to keep the number of unresponded down to a sane level (which is almost impossiable). I spend time interacting with advertisers. Sending out proposals for advertising on the site, loading new banners in for existing advertisers as well as chase some of them down to get the ads in time for the publication we need to send out.

After lunch I am often making calls to prospective advertisers, ad sales calls and emails take up a huge amount of my afternoon. Some days I use this time to work on editorial planning or talk to one of our writers or columnists. I'll often have an extended conversation with one of the PR firms we work with or studio reps about something that's going on or be getting info on future titles.

In the early afternoon we get several deliveries of DVDs, so I unpack them, log them into our system and then get the rest of the DVDs ready to go out to our reviewers in the mail.

Depending on what time of the month it is I might hunker down and do book keeping work, or deal with invoicing, collections, and other financial fun stuff. I'll also work on some of the long term projects that need attention (redesigns, technical issues, rss, researching the next forum version, videogametalk, etc).

Sometimes I'm on the phone with writers from other media (newspapers, radio, TV) talking about DVD, giving quotes or just helping out with a story.

Then email's piled up again and I spend some time clearing it out. More often than not there's a problem thread or user that needs some attention on the forum or someone's instant messaging me about one thing or another.

When I have a chance I go in and try to update our coming soon release list, and I tend to spend some time in the afternoon's working on getting columns published online and loading things into our outgoing email server for our newsletter.

Typically that takes me up to Dinner, when I take a break, spend time with my family and catch up on life.

Then almost always I'm back online finishing up the email in the day. Getting reports out to advertisers if needed, sending off any last min proposals or things I've commited to having by the end of the day.

I often spend time in the early evening catching up on the sites I read, I'll spend time doing some research (for technical issues, stuff to add to the site, or new trends like rss as well as advertising technology solutions). I stop to tuck the kids in bed and will typically go and take a break.

If it's getting close to when I do TV this is the time I'll watch one of the 4 title's we're featuring. If not then I might catch a DVD of something I know needs to go out the next day for review. If on a lucky day there's nothing I have to watch I fire up my Tivo and catch up on the shows I follow or pop in a DVD and watch something for fun.

Then it's back online for one last check in, answer feedback posts like this one, check in with the mods and reviewers forum, approve any reviews that are queued up and call it a day.

Some days are insane, I often feel like there's a lot more to do than my ability to do it, but I do what I can to get everything done that I've committed to. It's a lot of hard work, but I absolutely love it.

- G

Looking through the various posts that you have made in this thread, admittedly as someone who rarely enters Politics, I am having some difficulty in seeing just what it is you are getting at that hasn't been addressed somewhere amongst the posts that have been made in response.

JasonF 10-16-07 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by NCMojo
You guessed right about JasonF -- I think he'd make an excellent mod.

That's it. You're banned. You're all banned.

JasonF 10-16-07 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
Geez. I'd hate to see your idea of punishment.

das

:lol: It's funny because it's true. I don't want to be a mod -- no offense to any of our fine mods.

CRM114 10-16-07 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by benedict
ooking through the various posts that you have made in this thread, admittedly as someone who rarely enters Politics, I am having some difficulty in seeing just what it is you are getting at that hasn't been addressed somewhere amongst the posts that have been made in response.

Its pretty simple. We lost 3 mods. Are they going to be replaced or not? Enough with the "what the fuck is this guy talking about" posts. If there is no answer to that question, say it. If there is, say that too. What the hell is the confusion here? My god, you spent more time constructing your witty post than actually getting to the issue.

So whats the story, benedict? You seem to have all the answers. PLEASE show me "somewhere amongst the posts" that answers what the status of our 2 lost mods. I'm begging you. (We kind of know what the status of one of them is, sort of.)

benedict 10-16-07 04:46 PM

One of the guys you earlier mentioned as being "missing" already gave you an answer.
<font color=blue>
Edit: OK, you edited while I was composing this post to make the point about the two mods who haven't responded. I'm not going to rework the rest of this.
</font>
I quoted it in my reply to your earlier post because your seemed to be suggesting that the lack of response was "lame".

Given what had already been posted, and taking into account your own comments, I was genuinely intrigued as to who else you were expecting to reply.

Anyhoo, an answer that I've seen several times over the years in Feedback when people raise questions is that the topic is under discussion in the moderator forum and that these things can take some time.

Part of that is down to Geoff having a lot on his plate and not being in a position to drop everything to arrive at an instant decision. That was the point of posting the, to me, illustrative "day in the life" quote.

The irony is that, in trying to smooth over the somewhat aggressive nature of one or two of your posts both by alluding to those earlier replies and by pointing out the lack of coherence that I'd perceived, from your latest reply clearly I have failed abjectly! And, along the way, I've earned the dubious sobriquet of having made a "witty post" and possessing "all the answers".

Given such a sorry showing on my part, I can only guess that nobody will be asking me to moderate in Politics any time soon! Which, in the circumstances is kind of funny because I'm probably somewhat to the left of most of the people posting hereabouts.

benedict 10-16-07 06:47 PM

To address the point I'll post the following extract from VinVega's post of a few days ago:

Originally Posted by VinVega
[....] I wouldn't be opposed to adding another mod (considering bfrank's and sfsdfd's inactivity), but that's really not my call.

And have narrowed down my last post to the following.

Originally Posted by benedict
[....] an answer that I've seen several times over the years in Feedback when people raise questions is that the topic is under discussion in the moderator forum and that these things can take some time.

Part of that is down to Geoff having a lot on his plate and not being in a position to drop everything to arrive at an instant decision. [....]

i.e. perhaps it boils down to a case of "wait and see", "watch this space", or even, for the time being, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

CRM114 10-16-07 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by benedict
To address the point I'll post the following extract from VinVega's post of a few days ago:And have narrowed down my last post to the following.i.e. perhaps it boils down to a case of "wait and see", "watch this space", or even, for the time being, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Was that so difficult? ;)

Ranger 10-17-07 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Venusian
It is possible that mods do work on a forum without posting on it

Yeah, I remember bfrank fixing an otter thread I reported a while back.

heimerSWT 10-19-07 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by CRM114
So no one from the forum is going to even bother to respond to this? Lame.

:insert yawn smilie here:

I must admit it is posts like yours that make it so much fun being a mod here. Does the fact that there are 2-3 mods that are either on hiatus or busy with personal life really affect you that much? If sfsdfd were to never post here again...would it really affect your sleep tonight if he was kept on here as a mod anyway?

What if X was an actual human being, and not a script written by Adam Tyner? How would you feel then? Still lame?

;)

VinVega 10-19-07 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by heimerSWT
What if X was an actual human being, and not a script written by Adam Tyner? How would you feel then? Still lame?

;)

I knew it! :eek:

LurkerDan 10-19-07 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by heimerSWT
:insert yawn smilie here:

I must admit it is posts like yours that make it so much fun being a mod here. Does the fact that there are 2-3 mods that are either on hiatus or busy with personal life really affect you that much? If sfsdfd were to never post here again...would it really affect your sleep tonight if he was kept on here as a mod anyway?

seriously.

I don't get it. 2 or 3 mods left (ok, heimer didn't leave), but it hasn't even been alleged that there's been a lack of moderation in that forum, or that the moderation has been poor. It's simply the fact that 7 mods are listed but only 4 participate or mod? WOuld removing the 3 names make you happy? Then the only mods listed would be mods who actually post in that forum? You're getting all fired up about a problem that, by your own admission, isn't a problem. :hscratch:

And I 100% understand heimer's point, who the fuck would want to be a mod after reading this thread?

crazyronin 10-19-07 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by VinVega
I knew it! :eek:

Oh, please. You're part of the conspiracy, don't try to act innocent now. -ohbfrank-

Rockmjd23 10-19-07 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by LurkerDan
seriously.
I don't get it. 2 or 3 mods left (ok, heimer didn't leave), but it hasn't even been alleged that there's been a lack of moderation in that forum, or that the moderation has been poor. It's simply the fact that 7 mods are listed but only 4 participate or mod? WOuld removing the 3 names make you happy? Then the only mods listed would be mods who actually post in that forum? You're getting all fired up about a problem that, by your own admission, isn't a problem. :hscratch:

And I 100% understand heimer's point, who the fuck would want to be a mod after reading this thread?

If there were more liberal mods then conservative in the politics forum, this thread wouldn't exist, imo.

Tracer Bullet 10-19-07 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
If there were more liberal mods then conservative in the politics forum, this thread wouldn't exist, imo.

Considering the ideological bent of the OP that's a given, but it doesn't follow that a conservative-leaning poster would't have started a similiar thread at some point.

Rockmjd23 10-20-07 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
Considering the ideological bent of the OP that's a given, but it doesn't follow that a conservative-leaning poster would't have started a similiar thread at some point.

Bhk would have just added it to his media bias thread. ;)

CRM114 10-20-07 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by heimerSWT
:insert yawn smilie here:

I must admit it is posts like yours that make it so much fun being a mod here. Does the fact that there are 2-3 mods that are either on hiatus or busy with personal life really affect you that much? If sfsdfd were to never post here again...would it really affect your sleep tonight if he was kept on here as a mod anyway?

I could give a rat's ass.

Does this thread affect YOUR personal life so much you feel a need to post irrelevant goop?

CRM114 10-20-07 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by LurkerDan
seriously.

I don't get it. 2 or 3 mods left (ok, heimer didn't leave), but it hasn't even been alleged that there's been a lack of moderation in that forum, or that the moderation has been poor. It's simply the fact that 7 mods are listed but only 4 participate or mod? WOuld removing the 3 names make you happy? Then the only mods listed would be mods who actually post in that forum? You're getting all fired up about a problem that, by your own admission, isn't a problem. :hscratch:

And I 100% understand heimer's point, who the fuck would want to be a mod after reading this thread?

Excuse me? What did this thread do other than ask if 3 mods in Politics would be replaced? You really "don't get it?" C'mon LurkerDan, I know by your posts you are more intelligent than that. It seems some are posting in an adversarial manner in some sort of towel-whipping deal.

Why wouldn't anyone want to be a mod? Seem like it is you who are red-faced and hysterical, my man.

Mods, please lock this thread.

LurkerDan 10-20-07 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
Excuse me? What did this thread do other than ask if 3 mods in Politics would be replaced? You really "don't get it?" C'mon LurkerDan, I know by your posts you are more intelligent than that. It seems some are posting in an adversarial manner in some sort of towel-whipping deal.

Why wouldn't anyone want to be a mod? Seem like it is you who are red-faced and hysterical, my man.

Mods, please lock this thread.

red faced and hysterical? :rotfl:

I'd try to explain more, but I know by your posts that you are not...

heimerSWT 10-21-07 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
I could give a rat's ass.

Does this thread affect YOUR personal life so much you feel a need to post irrelevant goop?

I never brought up anything about goop. He's been banned for a while.

Venusian 10-22-07 08:37 AM

I'll answer the question then: No, they will not be replaced.

It is possible more mods will be added in the future or current mods will retire, but mods will never be replaced. Our moderator staff is irreplacable (except for me, any day laborer can do my job).

VinVega 10-22-07 09:21 AM

I think in some ways we're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Hopefully, everyone will chill out a bit so we can discuss this calmly.

CRM114 10-22-07 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by LurkerDan
red faced and hysterical? :rotfl:

I'd try to explain more, but I know by your posts that you are not...

That's real nice. Why not continue the personal attack rather than mask it with an ellipsis? I guess I underestimated you by that childish remark.

CRM114 10-22-07 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by VinVega
I think in some ways we're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Hopefully, everyone will chill out a bit so we can discuss this calmly.

Now thats an understatement. I'll be sure to send my feedback privately fron now on. :lol:

CaptainMarvel 10-22-07 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
That's real nice. Why not continue the personal attack rather than mask it with an ellipsis? I guess I underestimated you by that childish remark.

Considering the absurd leap (or lack) of reasoning it took to construe LurkerDan's post as "red-faced and hysterical," maybe he figured it would be pointless to attempt to further communicate with you while you're engaging in histrionics?

You gave your feedback. Other people gave contrary feedback. I can't say what your actual thought process is, but it appears to an outside observer that you took umbrage to their disagreement, and you in turn blew the entire issue (or nonissue) out of proportion.

dick_grayson 10-23-07 11:53 AM

I wonder how long "certain members" would last under different moderators.

LurkerDan 10-23-07 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel
Considering the absurd leap (or lack) of reasoning it took to construe LurkerDan's post as "red-faced and hysterical," maybe he figured it would be pointless to attempt to further communicate with you while you're engaging in histrionics?

You gave your feedback. Other people gave contrary feedback. I can't say what your actual thought process is, but it appears to an outside observer that you took umbrage to their disagreement, and you in turn blew the entire issue (or nonissue) out of proportion.

:clap:

Iron Chef 10-23-07 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel
Considering the absurd leap (or lack) of reasoning it took to construe LurkerDan's post as "red-faced and hysterical," maybe he figured it would be pointless to attempt to further communicate with you while you're engaging in histrionics?

You gave your feedback. Other people gave contrary feedback. I can't say what your actual thought process is, but it appears to an outside observer that you took umbrage to their disagreement, and you in turn blew the entire issue (or nonissue) out of proportion.


well put

CRM114 10-23-07 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel
Considering the absurd leap (or lack) of reasoning it took to construe LurkerDan's post as "red-faced and hysterical," maybe he figured it would be pointless to attempt to further communicate with you while you're engaging in histrionics?

You gave your feedback. Other people gave contrary feedback. I can't say what your actual thought process is, but it appears to an outside observer that you took umbrage to their disagreement, and you in turn blew the entire issue (or nonissue) out of proportion.

There's disagreement that 3 mods are currently inactive?

What exactly was "blown out of proportion" by me? I'm still wondering the exact same thing I was wondering when I started the thread. 3 mods are listed who no longer exist apparently. Will they be replaced? Its a SIMPLE question which was followed by sarcasm and personal attacks.

heimerSWT 10-23-07 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114
There's disagreement that 3 mods are currently inactive?

What exactly was "blown out of proportion" by me? I'm still wondering the exact same thing I was wondering when I started the thread. 3 mods are listed who no longer exist apparently. Will they be replaced? Its a SIMPLE question which was followed by sarcasm and personal attacks.

This feels strangely like an Art thread.

Here are your answers (again):

1. I am still here, which means I exist. That leaves 2 mods.
2. The 2 remaining mods will remain as mods unless they request otherwise on their own, or they do something stupid and are subsequently removed.


Special thanks to LurkerDan and CaptainMarvel :D

CRM114 10-23-07 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by heimerSWT
This feels strangely like an Art thread.

Here are your answers (again):

1. I am still here, which means I exist. That leaves 2 mods.
2. The 2 remaining mods will remain as mods unless they request otherwise on their own, or they do something stupid and are subsequently removed.

Again? That answer (I suppose you are now the authoritative source rather than benedict) is a different one. Is that the one you'd like to settle on? No one up until this point mentioned the Moderator was a lifetime appointment and that service was not required. :lol: But thanks for that.


Special thanks to LurkerDan and CaptainMarvel :D
Sure. Let the mods encourage personal attacks. -rolleyes-

Venusian 10-23-07 10:07 PM

I don't understand the question. I thought I understood it, but it looks like there have been numerous attempts to answer it but they have not been satisfactory.

I said no they would not be replaced. heimer said the same thing. benedict said new mods might be added in the future if needed, which goes along with what heimer and I said. How is the question not answered?

CaptainMarvel 10-24-07 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by CRM114
Sure. Let the mods encourage personal attacks. -rolleyes-

Where was the personal attack?

Edit: Seriously, I just went back and re-read my post and Lurkerdans'... where do you even begin to see a personal attack? Both of our posts dealt with the content of your posts, or lack thereof... they didn't address you as a person at all.

Goldblum 10-24-07 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by CRM114
Sure. Let the mods encourage personal attacks. -rolleyes-

You are something else. :lol:

Groucho 10-24-07 10:58 AM

Be careful what you ask for: wendersfan is now a mod!


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