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Neitzl 07-23-03 02:10 PM

I just came from the video game forum and on EACH click on any link in that forum, I got the ad. Even to click out of the forum and into the main forum listing, I got it.
I guess it's punishment for not even thinking about buying the dvd.

einTier 07-23-03 06:40 PM

The video game forum does seem to get this ad A LOT more than any other forum. In fact, it's the only forum I ever see it in.

Josh H 07-23-03 07:49 PM

I've never got it anywhere other than the Video Game forum either.

I'd say I'm getting it as expected though, I log on two or three times a day on work days, and I get it once each time, so I'd say the once per hour thing is probably working for me.

Scott27 07-23-03 07:53 PM

I've never seen the ad, and I'm on the site at least a couple times a day everyday.

tanman 07-24-03 06:25 AM

Tell the advertisers that I am currently DL Final Destination 2 for FREE! hahahahahahaha




jk. But seriously notify them of our displeasure as to the nature of their ad and the serious retribution to their product that it has caused.

Several times in the VG forum
Win XP prof
IE 6
cookies accepted.

Josh H 07-24-03 12:35 PM


Originally posted by scott27
I've never seen the ad, and I'm on the site at least a couple times a day everyday.
Do you post in the Video Game forum? The ad appears limited to that forum.

Thunderball 07-24-03 01:10 PM

Haven't seen it yet.

Nor do I wish to.

This is a horrible campaign.

chanster 07-24-03 02:19 PM

I see it EVERYTIME I go the FRONT PAGE. Without fail. www.dvdtalk.com

I like to bookmark DVD Talk's home page because I like seeing the updates, but I am changing my bookmark. sad..

Ranger 07-24-03 06:03 PM

I don't get it. You guys are talking about this?

http://images.gorillanation.com/Newl...68x60_Post.gif

or the flash one on the side?

dgmayor 07-24-03 06:17 PM

No, it's a full page ad. Entire browser page is black with a large graphic in the middle.

marty888 07-25-03 10:42 AM


Originally posted by chanster
I see it EVERYTIME I go the FRONT PAGE. Without fail. www.dvdtalk.com

I like to bookmark DVD Talk's home page because I like seeing the updates, but I am changing my bookmark. sad..

Pretty much the same here - and if I hit the back button, it kicks me off the site altogether.

Rubix 07-26-03 02:49 AM

why should i be forced to to enable cookies in order to skip these LAME ads? i don't use cookies, and don't tell me your opinion on them or how i should run my computer either. this is so stupid.

Venusian 07-26-03 10:38 AM

you can skip it by clicking the link. but the cookies enable the site to know you've already seen it and won't show it to you again. If you don't want to use cookies, you'll probably see it a bunch. its up to you

s}{ammer 07-26-03 01:28 PM

I stopped using yahoo at all because of these flash ads. Dvdtalk is one of the few sites I visit every day even when I don't post, so right now I am very torn. Since the first time it happened I have been visiting here less and less. I don't want to leave but if my only alternative is living through these ads I will have to find a new forum to visit. Please make it stop.

Copenhagen 07-26-03 01:30 PM

Well I got my first one of these today, as much as I hate them, if it pays the bills I think I can deal.

MJKTool 07-26-03 01:30 PM

I finally saw it by going into the video game forum. Big deal, its very easy to get rid of. It takes not 1 second to click the defeat link. If it means more revenue for Geoff Im all for it.

Deftones 07-26-03 01:47 PM


Originally posted by MJKTool
I finally saw it by going into the video game forum. Big deal, its very easy to get rid of. It takes not 1 second to click the defeat link. If it means more revenue for Geoff Im all for it.
exactly. people are bitching b/c Geoff is trying to make $$$ from something they get for free.

chanster 07-26-03 03:15 PM


exactly. people are bitching b/c Geoff is trying to make $$$ from something they get for free
Please. I am "bitching" because the ad freezes one of my computers constantly....

Holly E. Ordway 07-27-03 07:48 AM

FWIW...

I started getting this ad too, and HATED it. But knowing that it wasn't going to be an ongoing thing made it bearable.

But...

A co-worker who reads DVDTalk frequently for its news and reviews mentioned that he'd seen it, and that it was enough to make him never, ever visit the site again.

This is the sort of person who won't get heard from here, because he doesn't post in the forum... but he visits the site, serves as an audience for the (non-obnoxious) ads, clicks on affiliate links... This is the sort of person who, in aggregate, does a lot to support DVDTalk, but how is he supposed to know that this awful ad isn't just the first evidence that the site has gone to the dogs (as so many other sites have, becoming unusable).

All I'm saying is, ads like this drive people away. And they won't make a big production of it: they just won't come back, won't click any more affilate links, won't post in the forum declaiming why they left. The people who post here (including me) saying they understand the reasons, it's worth it to support DVDTalk, it's not a big deal, etc. are not a representative sample.

Goldberg74 07-27-03 11:24 AM

Funny, I never get it when I use Safari on my mac... but this is the first time I've ever seen it on my PC.

I thought I was over at IGN or something...

GeoffK 07-27-03 02:25 PM

Thanks again everyone for your feedback. This was the first time we've run this kind of ad, so your thoughts and feelings on it are very much appreciated.

This current campaign is set to stop at the end of the week and at this time we have no planned future campaigns which call for intermercials.

The next time we talk with an advertiser who wants to use this kind of advertising, we'll advise them that our readers have expressed that they would actually NOT buy a product they were planning on buying as a result of these kind of ads.

Deftones 07-27-03 05:05 PM


Originally posted by chanster
Please. I am "bitching" because the ad freezes one of my computers constantly....
Obviously something is wrong w/ your computer then. I think in this thread there were only a select few who complained because the ad caused problems with their computer. The rest complained b/c the ad was annoying and distracting.

Deftones 07-27-03 05:07 PM


Originally posted by ordway
FWIW...

I started getting this ad too, and HATED it. But knowing that it wasn't going to be an ongoing thing made it bearable.

But...

A co-worker who reads DVDTalk frequently for its news and reviews mentioned that he'd seen it, and that it was enough to make him never, ever visit the site again.

This is the sort of person who won't get heard from here, because he doesn't post in the forum... but he visits the site, serves as an audience for the (non-obnoxious) ads, clicks on affiliate links... This is the sort of person who, in aggregate, does a lot to support DVDTalk, but how is he supposed to know that this awful ad isn't just the first evidence that the site has gone to the dogs (as so many other sites have, becoming unusable).

All I'm saying is, ads like this drive people away. And they won't make a big production of it: they just won't come back, won't click any more affilate links, won't post in the forum declaiming why they left. The people who post here (including me) saying they understand the reasons, it's worth it to support DVDTalk, it's not a big deal, etc. are not a representative sample.

Just curious how he supports the site? Does he click through Geoff's referral links?

tanman 07-27-03 05:14 PM

I wholely agree with ordway.

I think all of us understand that it generates money for the site, but that doesn't mean that it is not a pain in the a**. It benefits everyone when we express how we feel about it. It helps Geoff to know that it drives some people away, It helps the advertiser to know that it will drive people from their product, and hopefully it will help us never see this kind of ad again.

Static Cling 07-27-03 05:15 PM


Originally posted by Deftones
Just curious how he supports the site? Does he click through Geoff's referral links?

FWIW...

I started getting this ad too, and HATED it. But knowing that it wasn't going to be an ongoing thing made it bearable.

But...

A co-worker who reads DVDTalk frequently for its news and reviews mentioned that he'd seen it, and that it was enough to make him never, ever visit the site again.

This is the sort of person who won't get heard from here, because he doesn't post in the forum... but he visits the site, serves as an audience for the (non-obnoxious) ads,
clicks on affiliate links... This is the sort of person who, in aggregate, does a lot to support DVDTalk, but how is he supposed to know that this awful ad isn't just the first evidence that the site has gone to the dogs (as so many other sites have, becoming unusable).

All I'm saying is, ads like this drive people away. And they won't make a big production of it: they just won't come back, won't click any more affilate links, won't post in the forum declaiming why they left. The people who post here (including me) saying they understand the reasons, it's worth it to support DVDTalk, it's not a big deal, etc. are not a representative sample.

:)

Deftones 07-27-03 05:41 PM


Originally posted by Static Cling
:)
I should've worded it better. He states that he "does alot to support DVD Talk". I am wondering what that means, exactly. We all click on affiliate links. What makes it so that he does "alot". That's what I'd like a definition of.

Movie_Man 07-27-03 06:26 PM

Why do only movies that suck get this kind of advertising? The Feat Dot Com ad comes to mind.

Holly E. Ordway 07-27-03 06:30 PM


Originally posted by Deftones
I should've worded it better. He states that he "does alot to support DVD Talk". I am wondering what that means, exactly. We all click on affiliate links. What makes it so that he does "alot". That's what I'd like a definition of.
Notice that I said "the sort of person who *in aggregate* does a lot to support DVDTalk." I'm not claiming that this one person does tons and tons to support the site... but the effect of losing a bunch of people who all do a little bit is the same as losing one person who does a lot. Actually, the effect is probably greater, since the word-of-mouth effect of 10 people is far more than that of 1 person. Let's not make the mistake of blowing off the "casual user" and dismissing his contribution to the site. People like him outnumber diehards like you or me.

I'm glad to hear that we will hopefully not be seeing any more of those evil type of ad. Certainly I personally will make a point of NOT buying anything that's advertised in that way. This will be useful feedback for the advertiser... after all, they want people to be interested in their ads, not disgusted by them.

PixyJunket 07-28-03 12:10 AM


Originally posted by gkleinman
The next time we talk with an advertiser who wants to use this kind of advertising, we'll advise them that our readers have expressed that they would actually NOT buy a product they were planning on buying as a result of these kind of ads.
I realize it's a small step but I'm glad to hear that you will pass that message on.

boston george 07-28-03 11:19 AM


Originally posted by pixyboi
I realize it's a small step but I'm glad to hear that you will pass that message on.
Yeah this ad really does more harm than good to the sales of this dvd I think.

That being said I get it all the time and really don't mind TOO much. I mean look at all the countless hours of enjoyment most of us have gotten from these forums for free. Of course it has always let me skip it and has never frozen my browser so YMMV.

boston george 07-28-03 11:33 AM

Never mind it just froze up my browser. This ad sucks.

joshd2012 07-29-03 01:20 PM

This ad seems to have slowed down the entire Video Game forum as I can access any other forum in a milisecond, but it takes a minute to load anything on the Video Game forum. It shouldn't feel like I'm on 56K!

Bandoman 07-29-03 01:28 PM

I don't blame Geoff at all for this ad, and it won't stop me from visiting this forum, but I refuse to buy any product when that product is advertised in such an invasive and obnoxious manner. I hope the advertisers get that message. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. It won't affect my participation here at DVD Talk, but it will affect my purchases.

Too bad, I was interested in seeing Final Destination 2 - I liked the first one. I can live without it, though.

Josh H 07-29-03 02:16 PM

I've got the ad more than usual today, definitely more than once an hour.

I don't blame Geoff either, just the company that made the ad.

I'd boycott the movie, but I had no intention of buying this DVD anyway. :D

marty888 07-29-03 02:23 PM


Originally posted by gkleinman


This current campaign is set to stop at the end of the week ....



Can't happen soon enough...... thanks for the follow-up, Geoff.

einTier 07-29-03 02:27 PM

I honestly don't mind the ad so much, and I don't blame Geoff for having to use it to support the site.

I commented on it mainly because it was a big shock to see, and two, because I've seen other forums ruined by ads like these. Yahoo groups is nearly unusable to me because you see them about once every three clicks.

I'd hate to see DVDTalk go that direction, and much like I don't buy from telemarketers, I don't buy from companies who use this form of advertising.

MasterofDVD 07-29-03 11:53 PM

I've never complained about ads of here before in the many years I've been here.

But this ad is way more than I can handle. It pops up WAY too much.

I know this site costs money to run and ads are the way to go but this ad campaign is nuts. I sure hope they gave Geoff some decent money for this annoying crap.

GeoffK 07-30-03 04:47 PM

Campaign ends at the end of the day tommorow.

Based on the feedback here we're telling advertisers that we will NOT be selling 'intermercials' on our site.

On the flip side, we're always looking for good companies to advertise on DVD Talk. So if you know someone who works at a company who you think should be advertising on DVD Talk, let them know :)

chanster 07-31-03 12:43 AM

Thumbs up to Geoff..when does the premium sub start?

GeoffK 07-31-03 01:52 AM


Originally posted by chanster
Thumbs up to Geoff..when does the premium sub start?
Not exactly sure. I'd like to have it up in the next month or so.

I was going to wait for the next major version of the forum software, but I'm told there are ways to make it happen with the current version.


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