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The Werewolf By Night (2022) trailer dropped. Lookin' goooood.

https://youtu.be/bLEFqhS5WmI

Tons of references/homages in the trailer and probably the movie..? One I haven't seen yet, is that there's at least a dash of everyone's favorite 70's werewolf whodunit, The Beast Must Die (1974). Also (Giant Size) Man-Thing!

It's 60 minutes (qualifies for minimum movie length), rated TV-14 (so it's got some edge). I say let's just call it a Original Net Movie (what we would have called a TV Movie in the last millennia). Available on Disney + on October 7th and hopefully Blu not too long after.
This morning, Michael Giacchino was on the morning radio show I listen to, talking about this, and my interest is definitely piqued! I gather he had expressed an interest in directing to Kevin Feige, and when Feige asked what (in the Marvel universe) he'd like to direct, Giacchino immediately named Werewolf by Night because he was a big fan when he was a kid. It does sound like it will be chock full of homages to '30s/'40s horror (probably with a splash of '70s since that's when the original comic book ran), with an emphasis on practical sets/practical effects.

And in addition to directing, he also did the score -- I've been a fan of his composing work ever since The Incredibles, and actually would have suggested him for the checklist if he had a few more horror movie credits to his name. Sounds like he may reach the threshold eventually.
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Here is everyone I have marked as participating for a random September watch (Alphabetical order). Please let me know if you would like to be added or removed.
If you're still taking entries, I like the idea of watching a randomly assigned horror movie this month
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If you're still taking entries, I like the idea of watching a randomly assigned horror movie this month

I'd also be down for this!

As it is, I'm already hitting that point in September where I want to start watching horror movies, but would rather hold them back for just a few more weeks
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Thanks to my September watch, I've already entered pre challenge mode. Nothing specific, but half of what I've been watching is either horror movies or ghost shows on Travel Channel.
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Old 09-13-22, 01:40 PM
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If you're still taking entries, I like the idea of watching a randomly assigned horror movie this month
Regretfully, you have pulled Deep Blood

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I'd also be down for this!

As it is, I'm already hitting that point in September where I want to start watching horror movies, but would rather hold them back for just a few more weeks
And your pick is... The Mist!
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And your pick is... The Mist!
Excellent...thanks! I'm on vacation this week, so the timing is perfect!
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Regretfully, you have pulled Deep Blood


And your pick is... The Mist!
Whoa, we can still get in on this? I'd be down for a watch if it's still open.
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Whoa, we can still get in on this? I'd be down for a watch if it's still open.
Using my patented, super scientific process I have developed specifically for latecomers, you are assigned... Troll Hunter! Funny enough this does fulfill one of the original categories I had, foreign films.
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Regretfully, you have pulled Deep Blood
I'm happy I got a movie I haven't seen before, and since I've just enjoyed the 3D re-release of Jaws, this seems like an interesting chaser.
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Do you consume alcohol? It’ll help with the pain.
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I watched me random movie last night - the original Halloween. It was a decent enough choice as it's the *only* film of that series I like enough to watch on occasion. I don't like "slasher" movies by any stretch so when Halloween was originally released I immediately dismissed it - never going to watch it. Sometime in the 2010s I was in a K-Mart looking at Halloween stuff and saw a display of "Halloween movies" - looked - saw Halloween for $5 and thought - "It's cheap so why not... " I found it was "OK" and not a "slasher" movie in the sense I typically associate with the genre, more a psychological horror thing than outright slasher. I've watched it 4 or 5 times since then but it has never been scary in any sense as all the "danger" is so telegraphed as to be obvious, and quite often rather humorous (I got several laughs last night).
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Using my patented, super scientific process I have developed specifically for latecomers, you are assigned... Troll Hunter! Funny enough this does fulfill one of the original categories I had, foreign films.

One of the few found footage films I actually enjoy.
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One of the few found footage films I actually enjoy.
Yep - same here. It's actually enjoyable and doesn't succumb to the constant shaky-cam of most of that genre.
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Deep Blood (1989) D: Raf Donato (credited), Joe D'Amato

A Jaws rip-off, which follows many of the same story moments as Spielberg's film (such as a "patsy" shark being killed, giving the community false relief that the monster has been stopped). We also see a young woman running into water for a swim, leaving her boyfriend on land, only to be eaten by a shark. There is shark attack on a floating raft, but in a twist, the victim is the young boy's mother, instead of the child.

I think there may have been a few shots in which the filmmakers actually had a shark puppet they dragged through the water, but 95% (if not all) of the shark footage is stock shots, often mismatched in color timing, often with dirt and scratches. Whenever someone is attacked, we see some stock footage of a shark, then cut to the actor splashing in the water. We never see and actor and a shark sharing the screen.

There is, however, a lot of very good underwater photography, particularly in the final thirty minutes. Which makes it all the morning strange that the underwater footage of the young boy swimming in the ocean has clearly been shot in a swimming pool. You can see the wall of the pool behind him, including the ladder, and the jets spraying in heated water. This is all the more jarring because in the same sequence, the boy's mother is floating on a raft. So we keep cutting back and forth between underwater footage of the mother shot in the ocean, and underwater footage of the boy in a swimming pool. I'm guessing it was a safety issue. The camera is clearly deep under water, so maybe they weren't allowed to put the young boy in water that deep? I dunno, get a body double. I would have ditched that useless pool footage.

Despite an all American cast and setting, this is an Italian production. I wonder if the dialogue was written in Italian and then translated into English. The lines all make sense, but the words being used seem wrong. Like when the four boys try looking for the shark, and the one kid's father compliments them by saying, "What a brave enterprise!"

Mostly, the movie is bogged down by there being too many characters. We start off with these four friends as young children (there's about three minutes of screen time devoted to the hot dog wieners being roasted over an open fire). An Native American comes by and tells them the legend of this monster (most of the actor's dialogue is ADR'ed, I think by someone different from the on-screen actor, because sometimes his voice changes completely). Then we have these boys as young men, with their girlfriends, and parents, and bullies. I had trouble keeping track of who was who.

Movies like these can be enjoyable, and it is easy to forgive rough spots as long as the film can generate atmosphere or suspense, but unfortunately this does neither. The entire movie feels flat. There's no difference in pace or emotion whether the scene involves sitting at the bar chatting, or the big finale when they're putting hundreds of sticks of dynomite under the water to kill the shark.

The only people I can see finding this interesting would be connoisseurs of the Jaws rip-off sub genre.
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I much prefer Cruel Jaws, Mako : Jaws Of Death and the Last Shark.
I would however rather watch Deep Blood over Orca though. Fuck that movie.
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I would however rather watch Deep Blood over Orca though. Fuck that movie.
The poster for Orca looks amazing. It's been burned into my memory from being heavily advertised on the back of comic books when it came out. I intend to give it a watch some day.
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Deep Blood (1989) D: Raf Donato (credited), Joe D'Amato

A Jaws rip-off, which follows many of the same story moments as Spielberg's film (such as a "patsy" shark being killed, giving the community false relief that the monster has been stopped). We also see a young woman running into water for a swim, leaving her boyfriend on land, only to be eaten by a shark. There is shark attack on a floating raft, but in a twist, the victim is the young boy's mother, instead of the child.

I think there may have been a few shots in which the filmmakers actually had a shark puppet they dragged through the water, but 95% (if not all) of the shark footage is stock shots, often mismatched in color timing, often with dirt and scratches. Whenever someone is attacked, we see some stock footage of a shark, then cut to the actor splashing in the water. We never see and actor and a shark sharing the screen.

There is, however, a lot of very good underwater photography, particularly in the final thirty minutes. Which makes it all the morning strange that the underwater footage of the young boy swimming in the ocean has clearly been shot in a swimming pool. You can see the wall of the pool behind him, including the ladder, and the jets spraying in heated water. This is all the more jarring because in the same sequence, the boy's mother is floating on a raft. So we keep cutting back and forth between underwater footage of the mother shot in the ocean, and underwater footage of the boy in a swimming pool. I'm guessing it was a safety issue. The camera is clearly deep under water, so maybe they weren't allowed to put the young boy in water that deep? I dunno, get a body double. I would have ditched that useless pool footage.

Despite an all American cast and setting, this is an Italian production. I wonder if the dialogue was written in Italian and then translated into English. The lines all make sense, but the words being used seem wrong. Like when the four boys try looking for the shark, and the one kid's father compliments them by saying, "What a brave enterprise!"

Mostly, the movie is bogged down by there being too many characters. We start off with these four friends as young children (there's about three minutes of screen time devoted to the hot dog wieners being roasted over an open fire). An Native American comes by and tells them the legend of this monster (most of the actor's dialogue is ADR'ed, I think by someone different from the on-screen actor, because sometimes his voice changes completely). Then we have these boys as young men, with their girlfriends, and parents, and bullies. I had trouble keeping track of who was who.

Movies like these can be enjoyable, and it is easy to forgive rough spots as long as the film can generate atmosphere or suspense, but unfortunately this does neither. The entire movie feels flat. There's no difference in pace or emotion whether the scene involves sitting at the bar chatting, or the big finale when they're putting hundreds of sticks of dynomite under the water to kill the shark.

The only people I can see finding this interesting would be connoisseurs of the Jaws rip-off sub genre.
The movie is truly, absurdly boring
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I know a lot of horror fans here enjoy both comics and games and I saw this and thought it looked interesting. I was thinking about backing it. I have always had a massive fascination with the Winchester House and hope to one day visit it.

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Subset price drop alert. Werewolves Within is currently $8.99, which is a new low. It's been fluctuating a bit over the last couple or so days so act quick if you're on the fence.

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Subset price drop alert. Werewolves Within is currently $8.99, which is a new low. It's been fluctuating a bit over the last couple or so days so act quick if you're on the fence.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
I caved in January at $15, this is a great price. Also a fun movie.
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Funnily enough, as long as I've been doing this, I've never made it all the way through the Nightmare on Elm Street series. Love the first one, second one I have a soft spot for, third one is still pretty good, but that's as far as I've gotten before.

So when IBJoel assigned Dream Child, I felt it was only appropriate to start watching from the beginning since I noticed they were "all" on HBOMax. Alas, when I finished movie #3 I realized that Nightmare 4 seemed to be the one they didn't have....CURSES!

But, trooper that I am, I forged ahead and watched Dream Child hoping that I wasn't missing anything really pertinent. I always enjoy the stop motion 80s style SFX that shows up in these films, but I noticed in #3 a distinct dropoff in some other effects that continues here in a couple parts. I didn't think it was aweful as a whole and I expected MORE one-liners than were actually in the movie. But it seemed like the franchise was losing steam by this point and adopting a more genericized look that seemed to happen to the other franchises around this point.

The storyline by this point seemed far and away from the danger of the first one and that's probably why I won't return to this one very often.

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fiver, for your crime of late arrival against the State of DVDTalk, you have been sentenced* to watch the film Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child

*By which I mean, I went to my Letterboxd, filtered horror films, blind-pressed a sorting method, and then blind-pressed a random film after scrolling erratically. I didn't look at my screen after filtering horror, so you could have just as easily gotten... I don't know... Society or The Shining

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I was a HUGE Freddy fan in the late 80s and saw all of them (except the first one) on opening night. When Part 5 ended, my friends all cautiously turned to gauge my reaction because they all thought it was a pile of crap and wondered how I felt. Letís just say that after the stellar Parts 3 & 4, I was severely let down.
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So when IBJoel assigned Dream Child, I felt it was only appropriate to start watching from the beginning since I noticed they were "all" on HBOMax. Alas, when I finished movie #3 I realized that Nightmare 4 seemed to be the one they didn't have....CURSES!.
I watched Part 4, The Dream Master for the first time since I was a kid a couple years ago, and it's held up much better than I expected. I consider it divorced from the first three, as the tone has shifted so far as to engineering the films to having the audience rooting for Freddy instead of being afraid of him, but Dream Master has very effective scenes, interesting visuals, and good direction. I hope you find it soon to check it out.

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I watched Part 4, The Dream Master for the first time since I was a kid a couple years ago, and it's held up much better than I expected. I consider it divorced from the first three, as the tone has shifted so far as to engineering the films to having the audience rooting for Freddy instead of being afraid of him, but Dream Master has very effective scenes, interesting visuals, and good direction. I hope you find it soon to check it out.
I think the 4th entries in the "big 3" 80s slasher franchises interestingly all feel like the exemplars of their respective series. Certainly not the best films, but definitely representing the "idea" of what you think of when you think of the series. No origin stories, no tricks or gimmicks, just everything played very straight and by-the-numbers and under the assumption of "audiences know what the deal is here".

For Nightmare on Elm Street, that's a series that I rank right in order of release. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

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